{"id":"an3.73","title":"With Mahānāma the Sakyan","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"an3.73","title":"With Mahānāma the Sakyan","units":[{"id":"an3.73:0","sourceIds":["an3.73:0.1","an3.73:0.2","an3.73:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Aṅguttara Nikāya 3.73\n8. Ānandavagga\nMahānāmasakkasutta","en":"Numbered Discourses 3.73\n8. Ānanda\nWith Mahānāma the Sakyan"}},{"id":"an3.73:1","sourceIds":["an3.73:1.1","an3.73:1.2","an3.73:1.3","an3.73:1.4","an3.73:1.5","an3.73:1.6","an3.73:1.7","an3.73:1.8","an3.73:1.9","an3.73:1.10","an3.73:1.11","an3.73:1.12"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ me sutaṁ—\nekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā sakkesu viharati kapilavatthusmiṁ nigrodhārāme.\nTena kho pana samayena bhagavā gilānā vuṭṭhito hoti aciravuṭṭhito gelaññā.\nAtha kho mahānāmo sakko yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho mahānāmo sakko bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“dīgharattāhaṁ, bhante, bhagavatā evaṁ dhammaṁ desitaṁ ājānāmi:\n‘samāhitassa ñāṇaṁ, no asamāhitassā’ti.\nSamādhi nu kho, bhante, pubbe, pacchā ñāṇaṁ;\nudāhu ñāṇaṁ pubbe, pacchā samādhī”ti?\nAtha kho āyasmato ānandassa etadahosi:\n“bhagavā kho gilānavuṭṭhito aciravuṭṭhito gelaññā.\nAyañca mahānāmo sakko bhagavantaṁ atigambhīraṁ pañhaṁ pucchati.\nYannūnāhaṁ mahānāmaṁ sakkaṁ ekamantaṁ apanetvā dhammaṁ deseyyan”ti.","en":"So I have heard.\nAt one time the Buddha was staying in the land of the Sakyans, near Kapilavatthu in the Banyan Tree Monastery.\nNow at that time the Buddha had recently recovered from an illness.\nThen Mahānāma the Sakyan went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him:\n“For a long time, sir, I have understood your teaching like this:\n‘Knowledge is for those with immersion, not those without immersion.’\nBut, sir, does immersion come first, then knowledge?\nOr does knowledge come first, then immersion?”\nThen Venerable Ānanda thought,\n“The Buddha has recently recovered from an illness,\nand this Mahānāma asks him a question that’s too deep.\nWhy don’t I take him off to one side and teach him the Dhamma?”"}},{"id":"an3.73:2","sourceIds":["an3.73:2.1","an3.73:2.2","an3.73:2.3","an3.73:2.4","an3.73:2.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Atha kho āyasmā ānando mahānāmaṁ sakkaṁ bāhāyaṁ gahetvā ekamantaṁ apanetvā mahānāmaṁ sakkaṁ etadavoca:\n“sekhampi kho, mahānāma, sīlaṁ vuttaṁ bhagavatā, asekhampi sīlaṁ vuttaṁ bhagavatā; sekhopi samādhi vutto bhagavatā, asekhopi samādhi vutto bhagavatā; sekhāpi paññā vuttā bhagavatā, asekhāpi paññā vuttā bhagavatā.\nKatamañca, mahānāma, sekhaṁ sīlaṁ?\nIdha, mahānāma, bhikkhu sīlavā hoti pātimokkhasaṁvarasaṁvuto viharati …pe… samādāya sikkhati sikkhāpadesu.\nIdaṁ vuccati, mahānāma, sekhaṁ sīlaṁ.","en":"Then Ānanda took Mahānāma by the arm, led him off to one side, and said to him,\n“Mahānāma, the Buddha has spoken of the ethics, immersion, and wisdom of a trainee; and the ethics, immersion, and wisdom of an adept.\nWhat is the ethics of a trainee?\nIt’s when a mendicant is ethical, restrained in the monastic code, conducting themselves well and resorting for alms in suitable places. Seeing danger in the slightest fault, they keep the rules they’ve undertaken.\nThis is called the ethics of a trainee."}},{"id":"an3.73:3","sourceIds":["an3.73:3.1","an3.73:3.2","an3.73:3.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Katamo ca, mahānāma, sekho samādhi?\nIdha, mahānāma, bhikkhu vivicceva kāmehi …pe… catutthaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.\nAyaṁ vuccati, mahānāma, sekho samādhi.","en":"And what is the immersion of a trainee?\nIt’s when a mendicant, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, enters and remains in the first absorption … second absorption … third absorption … fourth absorption.\nThis is called the immersion of a trainee."}},{"id":"an3.73:4","sourceIds":["an3.73:4.1","an3.73:4.2","an3.73:4.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Katamā ca, mahānāma, sekhā paññā?\nIdha, mahānāma, bhikkhu ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti …pe… ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānāti.\nAyaṁ vuccati, mahānāma, sekhā paññā.","en":"And what is the wisdom of a trainee?\nThey truly understand: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering’.\nThis is called the wisdom of a trainee."}},{"id":"an3.73:5","sourceIds":["an3.73:5.1","an3.73:5.2","an3.73:5.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, mahānāma, ariyasāvako evaṁ sīlasampanno evaṁ samādhisampanno evaṁ paññāsampanno āsavānaṁ khayā anāsavaṁ cetovimuttiṁ paññāvimuttiṁ diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharati.\nEvaṁ kho, mahānāma, sekhampi sīlaṁ vuttaṁ bhagavatā, asekhampi sīlaṁ vuttaṁ bhagavatā; sekhopi samādhi vutto bhagavatā, asekhopi samādhi vutto bhagavatā; sekhāpi paññā vuttā bhagavatā, asekhāpi paññā vuttā bhagavatā”ti.\nTatiyaṁ.","en":"Then a noble disciple—accomplished in ethics, immersion, and wisdom—realizes the undefiled freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom. And they live having realized it with their own insight in this very life due to the ending of defilements.\nIn this way the Buddha has spoken of the ethics, immersion, and wisdom of both a trainee and an adept.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/an3.73/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}