{"id":"an4.188","title":"With Upaka","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"an4.188","title":"With Upaka","units":[{"id":"an4.188:0","sourceIds":["an4.188:0.1","an4.188:0.2","an4.188:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Aṅguttara Nikāya 4.188\n19. Brāhmaṇavagga\nUpakasutta","en":"Numbered Discourses 4.188\n19. Brahmins\nWith Upaka"}},{"id":"an4.188:1","sourceIds":["an4.188:1.1","an4.188:1.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā rājagahe viharati gijjhakūṭe pabbate.\nAtha kho upako maṇḍikāputto yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho upako maṇḍikāputto bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:","en":"Once the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha, on the Vulture’s Peak Mountain.\nThen Upaka the son of Maṇḍikā went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him:"}},{"id":"an4.188:2","sourceIds":["an4.188:2.1","an4.188:2.2","an4.188:2.3","an4.188:2.4","an4.188:2.5","an4.188:2.6","an4.188:2.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ahañhi, bhante, evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n‘yo koci parūpārambhaṁ vatteti, parūpārambhaṁ vattento sabbo so na upapādeti.\nAnupapādento gārayho hoti upavajjo’”ti.\n“Parūpārambhañce, upaka, vatteti parūpārambhaṁ vattento na upapādeti, anupapādento gārayho hoti upavajjo.\nTvaṁ kho, upaka, parūpārambhaṁ vattesi, parūpārambhaṁ vattento na upapādesi, anupapādento gārayho hosi upavajjo”ti.\n“Seyyathāpi, bhante, ummujjamānakaṁyeva mahatā pāsena bandheyya;\nevamevaṁ kho ahaṁ, bhante, ummujjamānakoyeva bhagavatā mahatā vādapāsena baddho”ti.","en":"“Sir, this is my doctrine and view:\n‘Whoever goes on complaining about others without giving any reasons\nis reprehensible and at fault.’”\n“Upaka, if someone goes on complaining about others without giving a reason, they’re reprehensible and at fault.\nBut that’s what you do, so you’re reprehensible and at fault!”\n“Sir, like a fish caught in a big trap just as it rises,\nso the Buddha caught me in a big trap of words just as I rose up.”"}},{"id":"an4.188:3","sourceIds":["an4.188:3.1","an4.188:3.2","an4.188:3.3","an4.188:3.4","an4.188:3.5","an4.188:3.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Idaṁ akusalanti kho, upaka, mayā paññattaṁ.\nTattha aparimāṇā padā aparimāṇā byañjanā aparimāṇā tathāgatassa dhammadesanā—\nitipidaṁ akusalanti.\nTaṁ kho panidaṁ akusalaṁ pahātabbanti kho, upaka, mayā paññattaṁ.\nTattha aparimāṇā padā aparimāṇā byañjanā aparimāṇā tathāgatassa dhammadesanā—\nitipidaṁ akusalaṁ pahātabbanti.","en":"“Upaka, I’ve declared: ‘This is unskillful.’\nAnd for that there are limitless words, phrasings, and teachings of the Realized One:\n‘This is another way of saying that this is unskillful.’\nI’ve declared: ‘The unskillful should be given up.’\nAnd for that there are limitless words, phrasings, and teachings of the Realized One:\n‘This is another way of saying that the unskillful should be given up.’"}},{"id":"an4.188:4","sourceIds":["an4.188:4.1","an4.188:4.2","an4.188:4.3","an4.188:4.4","an4.188:4.5","an4.188:4.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Idaṁ kusalanti kho, upaka, mayā paññattaṁ.\nTattha aparimāṇā padā aparimāṇā byañjanā aparimāṇā tathāgatassa dhammadesanā—\nitipidaṁ kusalanti.\nTaṁ kho panidaṁ kusalaṁ bhāvetabbanti kho, upaka, mayā paññattaṁ.\nTattha aparimāṇā padā aparimāṇā byañjanā aparimāṇā tathāgatassa dhammadesanā—\nitipidaṁ kusalaṁ bhāvetabban”ti.","en":"I’ve declared that: ‘This is skillful.’\nAnd for that there are limitless words, phrasings, and teachings of the Realized One:\n‘This is another way of saying that this is skillful.’\nI’ve declared: ‘The skillful should be developed.’\nAnd for that there are limitless words, phrasings, and teachings of the Realized One:\n‘This is another way of saying that the skillful should be developed.’”"}},{"id":"an4.188:5","sourceIds":["an4.188:5.1","an4.188:5.2","an4.188:5.3","an4.188:5.4","an4.188:5.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Atha kho upako maṇḍikāputto bhagavato bhāsitaṁ abhinanditvā anumoditvā uṭṭhāyāsanā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā padakkhiṇaṁ katvā yena rājā māgadho ajātasattu vedehiputto tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā yāvatako ahosi bhagavatā saddhiṁ kathāsallāpo taṁ sabbaṁ rañño māgadhassa ajātasattussa vedehiputtassa ārocesi.\nEvaṁ vutte, rājā māgadho ajātasattu vedehiputto kupito anattamano upakaṁ maṇḍikāputtaṁ etadavoca:\n“yāva dhaṁsī vatāyaṁ loṇakāradārako yāva mukharo yāva pagabbo yatra hi nāma taṁ bhagavantaṁ arahantaṁ sammāsambuddhaṁ āsādetabbaṁ maññissati;\napehi tvaṁ, upaka, vinassa, mā taṁ addasan”ti.\nAṭṭhamaṁ.","en":"And then Upaka son of Maṇḍikā approved and agreed with what the Buddha said. He got up from his seat, bowed and respectfully circled the Buddha, keeping him on his right. Then he went up to King Ajātasattu of Magadha, son of the princess of Videha. He told the King of all they had discussed.\nBut Ajātasattu became angry and upset, and said to Upaka,\n“How rude of this salt-maker’s boy! How scurrilous and impudent of him to imagine he could attack the Blessed One, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha!\nGet out, Upaka, go away! Don’t let me see you again.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/an4.188/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}