{"id":"dn25","title":"The Lion’s Roar at the Monastery of Lady Udumbarikā","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"dn25","title":"The Lion’s Roar at the Monastery of Lady Udumbarikā","units":[{"id":"dn25:0","sourceIds":["dn25:0.1","dn25:0.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Dīgha Nikāya 25\nUdumbarikasutta","en":"Long Discourses 25\nThe Lion’s Roar at the Monastery of Lady Udumbarikā"}},{"id":"dn25:1","sourceIds":["dn25:1.0","dn25:1.1","dn25:1.2","dn25:1.3","dn25:1.4","dn25:1.5","dn25:1.6","dn25:1.7","dn25:1.8","dn25:1.9","dn25:1.10","dn25:1.11"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"1. Nigrodhaparibbājakavatthu\nEvaṁ me sutaṁ—\nekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā rājagahe viharati gijjhakūṭe pabbate.\nTena kho pana samayena nigrodho paribbājako udumbarikāya paribbājakārāme paṭivasati mahatiyā paribbājakaparisāya saddhiṁ tiṁsamattehi paribbājakasatehi.\nAtha kho sandhāno gahapati divā divassa rājagahā nikkhami bhagavantaṁ dassanāya.\nAtha kho sandhānassa gahapatissa etadahosi:\n“akālo kho bhagavantaṁ dassanāya.\nPaṭisallīno bhagavā.\nManobhāvanīyānampi bhikkhūnaṁ asamayo dassanāya.\nPaṭisallīnā manobhāvanīyā bhikkhū.\nYannūnāhaṁ yena udumbarikāya paribbājakārāmo, yena nigrodho paribbājako tenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.\nAtha kho sandhāno gahapati yena udumbarikāya paribbājakārāmo, tenupasaṅkami.","en":"1. The Story of the Wanderer Nigrodha\nSo I have heard.\nAt one time the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha, on the Vulture’s Peak Mountain.\nNow at that time the wanderer Nigrodha was residing in the lady Udumbarikā’s monastery for wanderers, together with a large assembly of three thousand wanderers.\nThen the householder Sandhāna left Rājagaha in the middle of the day to see the Buddha.\nThen it occurred to him,\n“It’s the wrong time to see the Buddha,\nas he’s in retreat.\nAnd it’s the wrong time to see the esteemed mendicants,\nas they’re in retreat.\nWhy don’t I visit the wanderer Nigrodha at the lady Udumbarikā’s monastery for wanderers?”\nSo he went to the monastery for the wanderers."}},{"id":"dn25:2","sourceIds":["dn25:2.1","dn25:2.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tena kho pana samayena nigrodho paribbājako mahatiyā paribbājakaparisāya saddhiṁ nisinno hoti unnādiniyā uccāsaddamahāsaddāya anekavihitaṁ tiracchānakathaṁ kathentiyā.\nSeyyathidaṁ—rājakathaṁ corakathaṁ mahāmattakathaṁ senākathaṁ bhayakathaṁ yuddhakathaṁ annakathaṁ pānakathaṁ vatthakathaṁ sayanakathaṁ mālākathaṁ gandhakathaṁ ñātikathaṁ yānakathaṁ gāmakathaṁ nigamakathaṁ nagarakathaṁ janapadakathaṁ itthikathaṁ sūrakathaṁ visikhākathaṁ kumbhaṭṭhānakathaṁ pubbapetakathaṁ nānattakathaṁ lokakkhāyikaṁ samuddakkhāyikaṁ itibhavābhavakathaṁ iti vā.","en":"Now at that time, Nigrodha was sitting together with a large assembly of wanderers making an uproar, a colossal racket. They engaged in all kinds of low talk, such as\ntalk about kings, bandits, and chief ministers; talk about armies, threats, and wars; talk about food, drink, clothes, and beds; talk about garlands and fragrances; talk about family, vehicles, villages, towns, cities, and countries; talk about women and heroes; talk at the street market and the place for water pots; talk about the departed; motley talk; tales of land and sea; and talk about being reborn in this or that place."}},{"id":"dn25:3","sourceIds":["dn25:3.1","dn25:3.2","dn25:3.3","dn25:3.4","dn25:3.5","dn25:3.6","dn25:3.7","dn25:3.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Addasā kho nigrodho paribbājako sandhānaṁ gahapatiṁ dūratova āgacchantaṁ.\nDisvā sakaṁ parisaṁ saṇṭhāpesi:\n“appasaddā bhonto hontu, mā bhonto saddamakattha.\nAyaṁ samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako āgacchati sandhāno gahapati.\nYāvatā kho pana samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakā gihī odātavasanā rājagahe paṭivasanti, ayaṁ tesaṁ aññataro sandhāno gahapati.\nAppasaddakāmā kho panete āyasmanto appasaddavinītā, appasaddassa vaṇṇavādino.\nAppeva nāma appasaddaṁ parisaṁ viditvā upasaṅkamitabbaṁ maññeyyā”ti.\nEvaṁ vutte, te paribbājakā tuṇhī ahesuṁ.","en":"Nigrodha saw Sandhāna coming off in the distance,\nand hushed his own assembly:\n“Be quiet, good fellows, don’t make a sound.\nThe householder Sandhāna, a disciple of the ascetic Gotama, is coming.\nHe is included among the white-clothed lay disciples of the ascetic Gotama, who is residing near Rājagaha.\nSuch venerables like the quiet, are educated to be quiet, and praise the quiet.\nHopefully if he sees that our assembly is quiet he’ll see fit to approach.”\nThen those wanderers fell silent."}},{"id":"dn25:4","sourceIds":["dn25:4.1","dn25:4.2","dn25:4.3","dn25:4.4","dn25:4.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Atha kho sandhāno gahapati yena nigrodho paribbājako tenupasaṅkami, upasaṅkamitvā nigrodhena paribbājakena saddhiṁ sammodi.\nSammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho sandhāno gahapati nigrodhaṁ paribbājakaṁ etadavoca:\n“aññathā kho ime bhonto aññatitthiyā paribbājakā saṅgamma samāgamma unnādino uccāsaddamahāsaddā anekavihitaṁ tiracchānakathaṁ anuyuttā viharanti.\nSeyyathidaṁ—rājakathaṁ …pe… itibhavābhavakathaṁ iti vā.\nAññathā kho pana so bhagavā araññavanapatthāni pantāni senāsanāni paṭisevati appasaddāni appanigghosāni vijanavātāni manussarāhasseyyakāni paṭisallānasāruppānī”ti.","en":"Then Sandhāna went up to the wanderer Nigrodha, and exchanged greetings with him.\nWhen the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Nigrodha,\n“The way the wanderers make an uproar as they sit together and talk about all kinds of low topics is one thing.\nIt’s quite different to the way the Buddha frequents remote lodgings in the wilderness and the forest that are quiet and still, far from the madding crowd, remote from human settlements, and fit for retreat.”"}},{"id":"dn25:5","sourceIds":["dn25:5.1","dn25:5.2","dn25:5.3","dn25:5.4","dn25:5.5","dn25:5.6","dn25:5.7","dn25:5.8","dn25:5.9","dn25:5.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ vutte, nigrodho paribbājako sandhānaṁ gahapatiṁ etadavoca:\n“yagghe, gahapati, jāneyyāsi, kena samaṇo gotamo saddhiṁ sallapati, kena sākacchaṁ samāpajjati, kena paññāveyyattiyaṁ samāpajjati?\nSuññāgārahatā samaṇassa gotamassa paññā aparisāvacaro samaṇo gotamo nālaṁ sallāpāya.\nSo antamantāneva sevati.\nSeyyathāpi nāma gokāṇā pariyantacārinī antamantāneva sevati.\nEvameva suññāgārahatā samaṇassa gotamassa paññā;\naparisāvacaro samaṇo gotamo;\nnālaṁ sallāpāya.\nSo antamantāneva sevati.\nIṅgha, gahapati, samaṇo gotamo imaṁ parisaṁ āgaccheyya, ekapañheneva naṁ saṁsādeyyāma, tucchakumbhīva naṁ maññe orodheyyāmā”ti.","en":"When Sandhāna said this, Nigrodha said to him,\n“Surely, householder, you should know better! With whom does the ascetic Gotama converse? With whom does he engage in discussion? With whom does he achieve lucidity of wisdom?\nStaying in empty huts has destroyed the ascetic Gotama’s wisdom. Not frequenting assemblies, he is unable to hold a discussion.\nHe just lurks on the periphery.\nHe’s just like a one-eyed cow, circling around and lurking on the periphery.\nGo on, householder! Were the ascetic Gotama to come to this assembly, I’d sink him with just one question! I’d tie him up like a hollow pot!”"}},{"id":"dn25:6","sourceIds":["dn25:6.1","dn25:6.2","dn25:6.3","dn25:6.4","dn25:6.5","dn25:6.6","dn25:6.7","dn25:6.8","dn25:6.9","dn25:6.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Assosi kho bhagavā dibbāya sotadhātuyā visuddhāya atikkantamānusikāya sandhānassa gahapatissa nigrodhena paribbājakena saddhiṁ imaṁ kathāsallāpaṁ.\nAtha kho bhagavā gijjhakūṭā pabbatā orohitvā yena sumāgadhāya tīre moranivāpo tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā sumāgadhāya tīre moranivāpe abbhokāse caṅkami.\nAddasā kho nigrodho paribbājako bhagavantaṁ sumāgadhāya tīre moranivāpe abbhokāse caṅkamantaṁ.\nDisvāna sakaṁ parisaṁ saṇṭhāpesi:\n“appasaddā bhonto hontu, mā bhonto saddamakattha, ayaṁ samaṇo gotamo sumāgadhāya tīre moranivāpe abbhokāse caṅkamati.\nAppasaddakāmo kho pana so āyasmā, appasaddassa vaṇṇavādī.\nAppeva nāma appasaddaṁ parisaṁ viditvā upasaṅkamitabbaṁ maññeyya.\nSace samaṇo gotamo imaṁ parisaṁ āgaccheyya, imaṁ taṁ pañhaṁ puccheyyāma:\n‘ko nāma so, bhante, bhagavato dhammo, yena bhagavā sāvake vineti, yena bhagavatā sāvakā vinītā assāsappattā paṭijānanti ajjhāsayaṁ ādibrahmacariyan’”ti?\nEvaṁ vutte, te paribbājakā tuṇhī ahesuṁ.","en":"With clairaudience that is purified and superhuman, the Buddha heard this discussion between the householder Sandhāna and the wanderer Nigrodha.\nThen the Buddha descended from Vulture’s Peak Mountain and went to the peacocks’ feeding ground on the bank of the Sumāgadhā, where he walked mindfully in the open air.\nNigrodha saw him,\nand hushed his own assembly:\n“Be quiet, good fellows, don’t make a sound. Here, the ascetic Gotama is walking mindfully on the bank of the Sumāgadhā.\nThe venerable likes quiet and praises quiet.\nHopefully if he sees that our assembly is quiet he’ll see fit to approach.\nIf he comes, I’ll ask him this question:\n‘Sir, what teaching do you use to guide your disciples, through which they claim solace in the fundamental goal of the spiritual life?’”\nThen those wanderers fell silent."}},{"id":"dn25:7","sourceIds":["dn25:7.0","dn25:7.1","dn25:7.2","dn25:7.3","dn25:7.4","dn25:7.5","dn25:7.6","dn25:7.7","dn25:7.8","dn25:7.9","dn25:7.10","dn25:7.11","dn25:7.12","dn25:7.13","dn25:7.14","dn25:7.15","dn25:7.16","dn25:7.17","dn25:7.18","dn25:7.19"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"2. Tapojigucchāvāda\nAtha kho bhagavā yena nigrodho paribbājako tenupasaṅkami.\nAtha kho nigrodho paribbājako bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“etu kho, bhante, bhagavā, svāgataṁ, bhante, bhagavato.\nCirassaṁ kho, bhante, bhagavā imaṁ pariyāyamakāsi yadidaṁ idhāgamanāya.\nNisīdatu, bhante, bhagavā, idamāsanaṁ paññattan”ti.\nNisīdi bhagavā paññatte āsane.\nNigrodhopi kho paribbājako aññataraṁ nīcāsanaṁ gahetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi.\nEkamantaṁ nisinnaṁ kho nigrodhaṁ paribbājakaṁ bhagavā etadavoca:\n“kāya nuttha, nigrodha, etarahi kathāya sannisinnā, kā ca pana vo antarākathā vippakatā”ti?\nEvaṁ vutte, nigrodho paribbājako bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“idha mayaṁ, bhante, addasāma bhagavantaṁ sumāgadhāya tīre moranivāpe abbhokāse caṅkamantaṁ, disvāna evaṁ avocumhā:\n‘sace samaṇo gotamo imaṁ parisaṁ āgaccheyya, imaṁ taṁ pañhaṁ puccheyyāma:\n“ko nāma so, bhante, bhagavato dhammo, yena bhagavā sāvake vineti, yena bhagavatā sāvakā vinītā assāsappattā paṭijānanti ajjhāsayaṁ ādibrahmacariyan”’ti?\nAyaṁ kho no, bhante, antarākathā vippakatā; atha bhagavā anuppatto”ti.\n“Dujjānaṁ kho etaṁ, nigrodha, tayā aññadiṭṭhikena aññakhantikena aññarucikena aññatrāyogena aññatrācariyakena, yenāhaṁ sāvake vinemi, yena mayā sāvakā vinītā assāsappattā paṭijānanti ajjhāsayaṁ ādibrahmacariyaṁ.\nIṅgha tvaṁ maṁ, nigrodha, sake ācariyake adhijegucche pañhaṁ puccha:\n‘kathaṁ santā nu kho, bhante, tapojigucchā paripuṇṇā hoti, kathaṁ aparipuṇṇā’”ti?\nEvaṁ vutte, te paribbājakā unnādino uccāsaddamahāsaddā ahesuṁ:\n“acchariyaṁ vata bho, abbhutaṁ vata bho, samaṇassa gotamassa mahiddhikatā mahānubhāvatā, yatra hi nāma sakavādaṁ ṭhapessati, paravādena pavāressatī”ti.","en":"2. Mortification in Disgust of Sin\nThen the Buddha went up to the wanderer Nigrodha,\nwho said to him,\n“Let the Blessed One come, sir! Welcome to the Blessed One, sir!\nIt’s been a long time since you took the opportunity to come here.\nPlease, sir, sit down, here, a seat is ready.”\nThe Buddha sat down on the seat spread out,\nwhile Nigrodha took a low seat and sat to one side.\nThe Buddha said to him,\n“Nigrodha, what were you sitting talking about just now? What conversation was left unfinished?”\nNigrodha said,\n“Well, sir, I saw you walking mindfully and said:\n‘If the ascetic Gotama comes, I’ll ask him this question:\n“Sir, what teaching do you use to guide your disciples, through which they claim solace in the fundamental goal of the spiritual life?”’\nThis is the conversation that was unfinished when the Buddha arrived.”\n“It’s hard for you to understand this, Nigrodha, since you have a different view, creed, and belief, and another discipline and denomination.\nPlease ask me a question about the higher disgust of sin in your own denomination:\n‘How are the conditions for the fervent mortification in disgust of sin completed, and how are they incomplete?’”\nWhen he said this, those wanderers made an uproar,\n“Oh lord, how incredible, how amazing! The ascetic Gotama has such power and might! For he sets aside his own doctrine and invites discussion on the doctrine of others!”"}},{"id":"dn25:8","sourceIds":["dn25:8.1","dn25:8.2","dn25:8.3","dn25:8.4","dn25:8.5","dn25:8.6","dn25:8.7","dn25:8.8","dn25:8.9","dn25:8.10","dn25:8.11","dn25:8.12","dn25:8.13","dn25:8.14","dn25:8.15","dn25:8.16","dn25:8.17","dn25:8.18","dn25:8.19","dn25:8.20","dn25:8.21","dn25:8.22","dn25:8.23","dn25:8.24","dn25:8.25"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Atha kho nigrodho paribbājako te paribbājake appasadde katvā bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“mayaṁ kho, bhante, tapojigucchāvādā tapojigucchāsārā tapojigucchāallīnā viharāma.\nKathaṁ santā nu kho, bhante, tapojigucchā paripuṇṇā hoti, kathaṁ aparipuṇṇā”ti?\n“Idha, nigrodha, tapassī acelako hoti muttācāro, hatthāpalekhano, naehibhaddantiko, natiṭṭhabhaddantiko, nābhihaṭaṁ, na uddissakataṁ, na nimantanaṁ sādiyati,\nso na kumbhimukhā paṭiggaṇhāti, na kaḷopimukhā paṭiggaṇhāti, na eḷakamantaraṁ, na daṇḍamantaraṁ, na musalamantaraṁ, na dvinnaṁ bhuñjamānānaṁ, na gabbhiniyā, na pāyamānāya, na purisantaragatāya, na saṅkittīsu, na yattha sā upaṭṭhito hoti, na yattha makkhikā saṇḍasaṇḍacārinī, na macchaṁ, na maṁsaṁ, na suraṁ, na merayaṁ, na thusodakaṁ pivati,\nso ekāgāriko vā hoti ekālopiko, dvāgāriko vā hoti dvālopiko, sattāgāriko vā hoti sattālopiko, ekissāpi dattiyā yāpeti, dvīhipi dattīhi yāpeti, sattahipi dattīhi yāpeti;\nekāhikampi āhāraṁ āhāreti, dvīhikampi āhāraṁ āhāreti, sattāhikampi āhāraṁ āhāreti, iti evarūpaṁ addhamāsikampi pariyāyabhattabhojanānuyogamanuyutto viharati.\nSo sākabhakkho vā hoti, sāmākabhakkho vā hoti, nīvārabhakkho vā hoti, daddulabhakkho vā hoti, haṭabhakkho vā hoti, kaṇabhakkho vā hoti, ācāmabhakkho vā hoti, piññākabhakkho vā hoti, tiṇabhakkho vā hoti, gomayabhakkho vā hoti; vanamūlaphalāhāro yāpeti pavattaphalabhojī.\nSo sāṇānipi dhāreti, masāṇānipi dhāreti, chavadussānipi dhāreti, paṁsukūlānipi dhāreti, tirīṭānipi dhāreti, ajinampi dhāreti, ajinakkhipampi dhāreti, kusacīrampi dhāreti, vākacīrampi dhāreti, phalakacīrampi dhāreti, kesakambalampi dhāreti, vāḷakambalampi dhāreti, ulūkapakkhampi dhāreti,\nkesamassulocakopi hoti kesamassulocanānuyogamanuyutto,\nubbhaṭṭhakopi hoti āsanapaṭikkhitto,\nukkuṭikopi hoti ukkuṭikappadhānamanuyutto,\nkaṇṭakāpassayikopi hoti kaṇṭakāpassaye seyyaṁ kappeti,\nphalakaseyyampi kappeti, thaṇḍilaseyyampi kappeti,\nekapassayikopi hoti\nrajojalladharo,\nabbhokāsikopi hoti\nyathāsanthatiko,\nvekaṭikopi hoti vikaṭabhojanānuyogamanuyutto,\napānakopi hoti apānakattamanuyutto,\nsāyatatiyakampi udakorohanānuyogamanuyutto viharati.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, nigrodha,\nyadi evaṁ sante tapojigucchā paripuṇṇā vā hoti aparipuṇṇā vā”ti?\n“Addhā kho, bhante, evaṁ sante tapojigucchā paripuṇṇā hoti, no aparipuṇṇā”ti.\n“Evaṁ paripuṇṇāyapi kho ahaṁ, nigrodha, tapojigucchāya anekavihite upakkilese vadāmī”ti.","en":"Then Nigrodha, having quieted those wanderers, said to the Buddha,\n“Sir, we teach fervent mortification in disgust of sin, regarding it as essential and sticking to it.\nHow are the conditions for the fervent mortification in disgust of sin completed, and how are they incomplete?”\n“Nigrodha, it’s when a mortifier goes naked, ignoring conventions. They lick their hands, and don’t come or wait when called. They don’t consent to food brought to them, or food prepared on their behalf, or an invitation for a meal.\nThey don’t receive anything from a pot or bowl; or from someone who keeps sheep, or who has a weapon or a shovel in their home; or where a couple is eating; or where there is a woman who is pregnant, breast-feeding, or who lives with a man; or where there’s a hound waiting or flies buzzing. They accept no fish or meat or beer or wine, and drink no fermented gruel.\nThey go to just one house for alms, taking just one mouthful, or two houses and two mouthfuls, up to seven houses and seven mouthfuls. They feed on one saucer a day, two saucers a day, up to seven saucers a day.\nThey eat once a day, once every second day, up to once a week, and so on, even up to once a fortnight. They live committed to the practice of eating food at set intervals.\nThey eat herbs, millet, wild rice, poor rice, water lettuce, rice bran, scum from boiling rice, sesame flour, grass, or cow dung. They survive on forest roots and fruits, or eating fallen fruit.\nThey wear robes of sunn hemp, mixed hemp, corpse-wrapping cloth, rags, lodh tree bark, antelope hide (whole or in strips), kusa grass, bark, wood-chips, human hair, horse-tail hair, or owls’ wings.\nThey tear out their hair and beard, committed to this practice.\nThey constantly stand, turning down seats.\nThey squat, committed to the endeavor of squatting.\nThey lie on a mat of thorns, making a mat of thorns their bed.\nThey make their bed on a plank, or the bare ground.\nThey lie only on one side.\nThey wear dust and dirt.\nThey stay in the open air.\nThey sleep wherever they lay their mat.\nThey eat unnatural things, committed to the practice of eating unnatural foods.\nThey don’t drink, committed to the practice of not drinking liquids.\nThey’re devoted to ritual bathing three times a day, including at dusk.\nWhat do you think, Nigrodha?\nIf this is so, is the fervent mortification in disgust of sin complete, or incomplete?”\n“Clearly, sir, if that is so the fervent mortification in disgust of sin is complete, not incomplete.”\n“But even such a completed mortification has many defects, I say.”"}},{"id":"dn25:9","sourceIds":["dn25:9.0","dn25:9.1","dn25:9.2","dn25:9.3","dn25:9.4","dn25:9.5","dn25:9.6","dn25:9.7","dn25:9.8","dn25:9.9","dn25:9.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"2.1. Upakkilesa\n“Yathā kathaṁ pana, bhante, bhagavā evaṁ paripuṇṇāya tapojigucchāya anekavihite upakkilese vadatī”ti?\n“Idha, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā attamano hoti paripuṇṇasaṅkappo.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā attamano hoti paripuṇṇasaṅkappo.\nAyampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā attānukkaṁseti paraṁ vambheti.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā attānukkaṁseti paraṁ vambheti.\nAyampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā majjati mucchati pamādamāpajjati.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā majjati mucchati pamādamāpajjati.\nAyampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.","en":"2.1. Defects\n“But how does the Buddha say that even such a completed mortification has many defects?”\n“Firstly, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification. They’re happy with that, as they’ve got all they wished for.\nThis is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification. They glorify themselves and put others down on account of that.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification. They become indulgent and infatuated and fall into negligence on account of that.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier."}},{"id":"dn25:10","sourceIds":["dn25:10.1","dn25:10.2","dn25:10.3","dn25:10.4","dn25:10.5","dn25:10.6","dn25:10.7","dn25:10.8","dn25:10.9","dn25:10.10","dn25:10.11","dn25:10.12","dn25:10.13","dn25:10.14","dn25:10.15","dn25:10.16","dn25:10.17"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Puna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā lābhasakkārasilokaṁ abhinibbatteti, so tena lābhasakkārasilokena attamano hoti paripuṇṇasaṅkappo.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā lābhasakkārasilokaṁ abhinibbatteti, so tena lābhasakkārasilokena attamano hoti paripuṇṇasaṅkappo.\nAyampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā lābhasakkārasilokaṁ abhinibbatteti, so tena lābhasakkārasilokena attānukkaṁseti paraṁ vambheti.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā lābhasakkārasilokaṁ abhinibbatteti, so tena lābhasakkārasilokena attānukkaṁseti paraṁ vambheti.\nAyampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā lābhasakkārasilokaṁ abhinibbatteti, so tena lābhasakkārasilokena majjati mucchati pamādamāpajjati.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā lābhasakkārasilokaṁ abhinibbatteti, so tena lābhasakkārasilokena majjati mucchati pamādamāpajjati.\nAyampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī bhojanesu vodāsaṁ āpajjati:\n‘idaṁ me khamati, idaṁ me nakkhamatī’ti.\nSo yañca khvassa nakkhamati, taṁ sāpekkho pajahati.\nYaṁ panassa khamati, taṁ gadhito mucchito ajjhāpanno anādīnavadassāvī anissaraṇapañño paribhuñjati …pe…\nayampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati lābhasakkārasilokanikantihetu:\n‘sakkarissanti maṁ rājāno rājamahāmattā khattiyā brāhmaṇā gahapatikā titthiyā’ti …pe…\nayampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.","en":"Furthermore, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification. They generate possessions, honor, and popularity through that mortification. They’re happy with that, as they’ve got all they wished for.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification. They generate possessions, honor, and popularity through that mortification. They glorify themselves and put others down on account of that.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification. They generate possessions, honor, and popularity through that mortification. They become indulgent and infatuated and fall into negligence on account of that.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier becomes fussy about food, saying,\n‘This is acceptable to me, this is not acceptable to me.’\nWhat is not acceptable they give up in expectation.\nBut what is acceptable they eat tied, infatuated, attached, blind to the drawbacks, and not understanding the escape.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification out of longing for possessions, honor, and popularity, thinking,\n‘Kings, royal ministers, aristocrats, brahmins, householders, and sectarians will honor me!’\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier."}},{"id":"dn25:11","sourceIds":["dn25:11.1","dn25:11.2","dn25:11.3","dn25:11.4","dn25:11.5","dn25:11.6","dn25:11.7","dn25:11.8","dn25:11.9","dn25:11.10","dn25:11.11","dn25:11.12","dn25:11.13","dn25:11.14","dn25:11.15","dn25:11.16","dn25:11.17","dn25:11.18","dn25:11.19"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Puna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī aññataraṁ samaṇaṁ vā brāhmaṇaṁ vā apasādetā hoti:\n‘kiṁ panāyaṁ sambahulājīvo sabbaṁ sambhakkheti.\nSeyyathidaṁ—mūlabījaṁ khandhabījaṁ phaḷubījaṁ aggabījaṁ bījabījameva pañcamaṁ, asanivicakkaṁ dantakūṭaṁ, samaṇappavādenā’ti …pe…\nayampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī passati aññataraṁ samaṇaṁ vā brāhmaṇaṁ vā kulesu sakkariyamānaṁ garukariyamānaṁ māniyamānaṁ pūjiyamānaṁ.\nDisvā tassa evaṁ hoti:\n‘imañhi nāma sambahulājīvaṁ kulesu sakkaronti garuṁ karonti mānenti pūjenti.\nMaṁ pana tapassiṁ lūkhājīviṁ kulesu na sakkaronti na garuṁ karonti na mānenti na pūjentī’ti, iti so issāmacchariyaṁ kulesu uppādetā hoti …pe…\nayampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī āpāthakanisādī hoti …pe…\nayampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī attānaṁ adassayamāno kulesu carati:\n‘idampi me tapasmiṁ idampi me tapasmin’ti …pe…\nayampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī kiñcideva paṭicchannaṁ sevati.\nSo ‘khamati te idan’ti puṭṭho samāno akkhamamānaṁ āha: ‘khamatī’ti.\nKhamamānaṁ āha: ‘nakkhamatī’ti.\nIti so sampajānamusā bhāsitā hoti …pe…\nayampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.","en":"Furthermore, a mortifier rebukes a certain ascetic or brahmin,\n‘What is it with this one living in abundance, devouring everything—\nplants propagated from roots, trunks, cuttings, or joints; and those from regular seeds as the fifth. According to this ascetic’s doctrine, the crown of the tooth is forked lightning!’\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier sees a certain ascetic or brahmin being honored, respected, esteemed, and venerated among good families.\nThey think,\n‘This one, who lives in abundance, is honored, respected, esteemed, and venerated among good families.\nBut I, a fervent mortifier who lives rough, am not honored, respected, esteemed, and venerated among good families.’ Thus they give rise to jealousy and stinginess regarding families.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier sits meditation only when people can see them.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier sneaks about among families, thinking,\n‘This is part of my mortification; this is part of my mortification.’\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier sometimes behaves in an underhand manner.\nWhen asked whether something is acceptable to them, they say it is, even though it isn’t.\nOr they say it isn’t, even though it is.\nThus they tell a deliberate lie.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier."}},{"id":"dn25:12","sourceIds":["dn25:12.1","dn25:12.2","dn25:12.3","dn25:12.4","dn25:12.5","dn25:12.6","dn25:12.7","dn25:12.8","dn25:12.9","dn25:12.10","dn25:12.11","dn25:12.12","dn25:12.13","dn25:12.14","dn25:12.15","dn25:12.16","dn25:12.17","dn25:12.18","dn25:12.19"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Puna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tathāgatassa vā tathāgatasāvakassa vā dhammaṁ desentassa santaṁyeva pariyāyaṁ anuññeyyaṁ nānujānāti …pe…\nayampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī kodhano hoti upanāhī.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī kodhano hoti upanāhī.\nAyampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī makkhī hoti paḷāsī …pe…\nissukī hoti maccharī …\nsaṭho hoti māyāvī …\nthaddho hoti atimānī …\npāpiccho hoti pāpikānaṁ icchānaṁ vasaṁ gato …\nmicchādiṭṭhiko hoti antaggāhikāya diṭṭhiyā samannāgato …\nsandiṭṭhiparāmāsī hoti ādhānaggāhī duppaṭinissaggī.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī sandiṭṭhiparāmāsī hoti ādhānaggāhī duppaṭinissaggī.\nAyampi kho, nigrodha, tapassino upakkileso hoti.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, nigrodha,\nyadime tapojigucchā upakkilesā vā anupakkilesā vā”ti?\n“Addhā kho ime, bhante, tapojigucchā upakkilesā, no anupakkilesā.\nṬhānaṁ kho panetaṁ, bhante, vijjati yaṁ idhekacco tapassī sabbeheva imehi upakkilesehi samannāgato assa;\nko pana vādo aññataraññatarenā”ti.","en":"Furthermore, a mortifier disagrees with the way that the Realized One or their disciple teaches Dhamma, even when they make a valid point.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nFurthermore, a mortifier is irritable and acrimonious …\noffensive and contemptuous …\njealous and stingy …\ndevious and deceitful …\nobstinate and arrogant …\nthey have corrupt wishes, falling under the sway of corrupt wishes …\nthey have wrong view, being attached to an extremist view …\nthey’re attached to their own views, holding them tight, and refusing to let go.\nThis too is a defect in that mortifier.\nWhat do you think, Nigrodha?\nAre such mortifications defective or not?”\n“Clearly, sir, they’re defective.\nIt’s possible that a mortifier might have all of these defects,\nlet alone one or other of them.”"}},{"id":"dn25:13","sourceIds":["dn25:13.0","dn25:13.1","dn25:13.2","dn25:13.3","dn25:13.4","dn25:13.5","dn25:13.6","dn25:13.7","dn25:13.8","dn25:13.9","dn25:13.10","dn25:13.11","dn25:13.12","dn25:13.13","dn25:13.14","dn25:13.15","dn25:13.16","dn25:13.17","dn25:13.18","dn25:13.19","dn25:13.20","dn25:13.21","dn25:13.22","dn25:13.23","dn25:13.24","dn25:13.25"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"2.2. Parisuddhapapaṭikappattakathā\n“Idha, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā na attamano hoti na paripuṇṇasaṅkappo.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā na attamano hoti na paripuṇṇasaṅkappo.\nEvaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā na attānukkaṁseti na paraṁ vambheti …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā na majjati na mucchati na pamādamāpajjati …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā lābhasakkārasilokaṁ abhinibbatteti, so tena lābhasakkārasilokena na attamano hoti na paripuṇṇasaṅkappo …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā lābhasakkārasilokaṁ abhinibbatteti, so tena lābhasakkārasilokena na attānukkaṁseti na paraṁ vambheti …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tapaṁ samādiyati, so tena tapasā lābhasakkārasilokaṁ abhinibbatteti, so tena lābhasakkārasilokena na majjati na mucchati na pamādamāpajjati …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī bhojanesu na vodāsaṁ āpajjati:\n‘idaṁ me khamati, idaṁ me nakkhamatī’ti.\nSo yañca khvassa nakkhamati, taṁ anapekkho pajahati.\nYaṁ panassa khamati, taṁ agadhito amucchito anajjhāpanno ādīnavadassāvī nissaraṇapañño paribhuñjati …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī na tapaṁ samādiyati lābhasakkārasilokanikantihetu:\n‘sakkarissanti maṁ rājāno rājamahāmattā khattiyā brāhmaṇā gahapatikā titthiyā’ti …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī aññataraṁ samaṇaṁ vā brāhmaṇaṁ vā nāpasādetā hoti:\n‘kiṁ panāyaṁ sambahulājīvo sabbaṁ sambhakkheti.\nSeyyathidaṁ—mūlabījaṁ khandhabījaṁ phaḷubījaṁ aggabījaṁ bījabījameva pañcamaṁ, asanivicakkaṁ dantakūṭaṁ, samaṇappavādenā’ti …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.","en":"2.2. On Reaching the Shoots\n“Firstly, Nigrodha, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification. But they’re not happy with that, as they still haven’t got all they wished for.\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nFurthermore, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification. They don’t glorify themselves or put others down on account of that.\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nThey don’t become indulgent …\nFurthermore, a mortifier undertakes a practice of mortification. They generate possessions, honor, and popularity through that mortification. They’re not happy with that, as they still haven’t got all they wished for …\nThey don’t glorify themselves and put others down on account of possessions, honor, and popularity …\nThey don’t become indulgent because of it …\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nFurthermore, a mortifier doesn’t become fussy about food, saying,\n‘This is acceptable to me, this is not acceptable to me.’\nWhat is not acceptable they give up without concern.\nBut what is acceptable they eat without being tied, infatuated, attached, seeing the drawbacks, and understanding the escape.\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nFurthermore, a mortifier doesn’t undertake a practice of mortification out of longing for possessions, honor, and popularity …\n‘Kings, royal ministers, aristocrats, brahmins, householders, and sectarians will honor me!’\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nFurthermore, a mortifier doesn’t rebuke a certain ascetic or brahmin,\n‘What is it with this one living in abundance, devouring everything—\nplants propagated from roots, trunks, cuttings, or joints; and those from regular seeds as the fifth. According to this ascetic’s doctrine, the crown of the tooth is like forked lightning!’\nSo they’re pure on that point."}},{"id":"dn25:14","sourceIds":["dn25:14.1","dn25:14.2","dn25:14.3","dn25:14.4","dn25:14.5","dn25:14.6","dn25:14.7","dn25:14.8","dn25:14.9","dn25:14.10","dn25:14.11","dn25:14.12","dn25:14.13","dn25:14.14","dn25:14.15","dn25:14.16","dn25:14.17"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Puna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī passati aññataraṁ samaṇaṁ vā brāhmaṇaṁ vā kulesu sakkariyamānaṁ garu kariyamānaṁ māniyamānaṁ pūjiyamānaṁ.\nDisvā tassa na evaṁ hoti:\n‘imañhi nāma sambahulājīvaṁ kulesu sakkaronti garuṁ karonti mānenti pūjenti.\nMaṁ pana tapassiṁ lūkhājīviṁ kulesu na sakkaronti na garuṁ karonti na mānenti na pūjentī’ti, iti so issāmacchariyaṁ kulesu nuppādetā hoti …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī na āpāthakanisādī hoti …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī na attānaṁ adassayamāno kulesu carati:\n‘idampi me tapasmiṁ, idampi me tapasmin’ti …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī na kiñcideva paṭicchannaṁ sevati, so:\n‘khamati te idan’ti puṭṭho samāno akkhamamānaṁ āha:\n‘nakkhamatī’ti.\nKhamamānaṁ āha:\n‘khamatī’ti.\nIti so sampajānamusā na bhāsitā hoti …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.","en":"Furthermore, a mortifier sees a certain ascetic or brahmin being honored, respected, esteemed, and venerated among good families.\nIt never occurs to them,\n‘This one, who lives in abundance, is honored, respected, esteemed, and venerated among good families.\nBut I, a fervent mortifier who lives rough, am not honored, respected, esteemed, and venerated among good families.’ Thus they don’t give rise to jealousy and stinginess regarding families.\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nFurthermore, a mortifier doesn’t sit meditation only when people can see them.\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nFurthermore, a mortifier doesn’t sneak about among families, thinking,\n‘This is part of my mortification; this is part of my mortification.’\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nFurthermore, a mortifier never behaves in an underhand manner.\nWhen asked whether something is acceptable to them, they say it isn’t when it isn’t.\nOr they say it is when it is.\nThus they don’t tell a deliberate lie.\nSo they’re pure on that point."}},{"id":"dn25:15","sourceIds":["dn25:15.1","dn25:15.2","dn25:15.3","dn25:15.4","dn25:15.5","dn25:15.6","dn25:15.7","dn25:15.8","dn25:15.9","dn25:15.10","dn25:15.11","dn25:15.12","dn25:15.13","dn25:15.14","dn25:15.15","dn25:15.16","dn25:15.17","dn25:15.18"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Puna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī tathāgatassa vā tathāgatasāvakassa vā dhammaṁ desentassa santaṁyeva pariyāyaṁ anuññeyyaṁ anujānāti …pe…\nevaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī akkodhano hoti anupanāhī.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī akkodhano hoti anupanāhī evaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nPuna caparaṁ, nigrodha, tapassī amakkhī hoti apaḷāsī …pe…\nanissukī hoti amaccharī …\nasaṭho hoti amāyāvī …\natthaddho hoti anatimānī …\nna pāpiccho hoti na pāpikānaṁ icchānaṁ vasaṁ gato …\nna micchādiṭṭhiko hoti na antaggāhikāya diṭṭhiyā samannāgato …\nna sandiṭṭhiparāmāsī hoti na ādhānaggāhī suppaṭinissaggī.\nYampi, nigrodha, tapassī na sandiṭṭhiparāmāsī hoti na ādhānaggāhī suppaṭinissaggī.\nEvaṁ so tasmiṁ ṭhāne parisuddho hoti.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, nigrodha,\nyadi evaṁ sante tapojigucchā parisuddhā vā hoti aparisuddhā vā”ti?\n“Addhā kho, bhante, evaṁ sante tapojigucchā parisuddhā hoti no aparisuddhā, aggappattā ca sārappattā cā”ti.\n“Na kho, nigrodha, ettāvatā tapojigucchā aggappattā ca hoti sārappattā ca;\napi ca kho papaṭikappattā hotī”ti.","en":"Furthermore, a mortifier agrees with the way that the Realized One or their disciple teaches Dhamma when they make a valid point.\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nFurthermore, a mortifier is not irritable and acrimonious …\noffensive and contemptuous …\njealous and stingy …\ndevious and deceitful …\nobstinate and arrogant …\nthey don’t have corrupt wishes …\nand wrong view …\nthey’re not attached to their own views, holding them tight, and refusing to let go.\nSo they’re pure on that point.\nWhat do you think, Nigrodha?\nIf this is so, is the fervent mortification in disgust of sin purified or not?”\n“Clearly, sir, it is purified. It has reached the peak and the pith.”\n“No, Nigrodha, at this point the fervent mortification in disgust of sin has not yet reached the peak and the pith.\nRather, it has only reached the shoots.”"}},{"id":"dn25:16","sourceIds":["dn25:16.0","dn25:16.1","dn25:16.2","dn25:16.3","dn25:16.4","dn25:16.5","dn25:16.6","dn25:16.7","dn25:16.8","dn25:16.9","dn25:16.10","dn25:16.11","dn25:16.12","dn25:16.13","dn25:16.14","dn25:16.15","dn25:16.16","dn25:16.17","dn25:16.18"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"2.3. Parisuddhatacappattakathā\n“Kittāvatā pana, bhante, tapojigucchā aggappattā ca hoti sārappattā ca?\nSādhu me, bhante, bhagavā tapojigucchāya aggaññeva pāpetu, sāraññeva pāpetū”ti.\n“Idha, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti.\nKathañca, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti?\nIdha, nigrodha, tapassī na pāṇaṁ atipāteti, na pāṇaṁ atipātayati, na pāṇamatipātayato samanuñño hoti.\nNa adinnaṁ ādiyati, na adinnaṁ ādiyāpeti, na adinnaṁ ādiyato samanuñño hoti.\nNa musā bhaṇati, na musā bhaṇāpeti, na musā bhaṇato samanuñño hoti.\nNa bhāvitamāsīsati, na bhāvitamāsīsāpeti, na bhāvitamāsīsato samanuñño hoti.\nEvaṁ kho, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti.\nYato kho, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti, aduṁ cassa hoti tapassitāya.\nSo abhiharati no hīnāyāvattati.\nSo vivittaṁ senāsanaṁ bhajati araññaṁ rukkhamūlaṁ pabbataṁ kandaraṁ giriguhaṁ susānaṁ vanapatthaṁ abbhokāsaṁ palālapuñjaṁ.\nSo pacchābhattaṁ piṇḍapātapaṭikkanto nisīdati pallaṅkaṁ ābhujitvā ujuṁ kāyaṁ paṇidhāya parimukhaṁ satiṁ upaṭṭhapetvā.\nSo abhijjhaṁ loke pahāya vigatābhijjhena cetasā viharati, abhijjhāya cittaṁ parisodheti.\nByāpādappadosaṁ pahāya abyāpannacitto viharati sabbapāṇabhūtahitānukampī, byāpādappadosā cittaṁ parisodheti.\nThinamiddhaṁ pahāya vigatathinamiddho viharati ālokasaññī sato sampajāno, thinamiddhā cittaṁ parisodheti.\nUddhaccakukkuccaṁ pahāya anuddhato viharati ajjhattaṁ vūpasantacitto, uddhaccakukkuccā cittaṁ parisodheti.\nVicikicchaṁ pahāya tiṇṇavicikiccho viharati akathaṅkathī kusalesu dhammesu, vicikicchāya cittaṁ parisodheti.","en":"2.3. On Reaching the Bark\n“But at what point, sir, does the fervent mortification in disgust of sin reach the peak and the pith?\nPlease help me reach the peak and the pith!”\n“Nigrodha, take a mortifier who is restrained in the fourfold constraint.\nAnd how is a mortifier restrained in the fourfold constraint?\nIt’s when a mortifier doesn’t kill living creatures, doesn’t get others to kill, and doesn’t approve of killing.\nThey don’t steal, get others to steal, or approve of stealing.\nThey don’t lie, get others to lie, or approve of lying.\nThey don’t expect rewards from their practice, they don’t lead others to expect rewards, and they don’t approve of expecting rewards.\nThat’s how a mortifier is restrained in the fourfold constraint.\nWhen a mortifier is restrained in the fourfold constraint, that is their mortification.\nThey step forward, not falling back.\nThey frequent a secluded lodging—a wilderness, the root of a tree, a hill, a ravine, a mountain cave, a charnel ground, a forest, the open air, a heap of straw.\nAfter the meal, they return from almsround, sit down cross-legged, set their body straight, and bring mindfulness to the present.\nGiving up covetousness for the world, they meditate with a heart rid of covetousness, cleansing the mind of covetousness.\nGiving up ill will and malevolence, they meditate with a mind rid of ill will, full of sympathy for all living beings, cleansing the mind of ill will.\nGiving up dullness and drowsiness, they meditate with a mind rid of dullness and drowsiness, perceiving light, mindful and aware, cleansing the mind of dullness and drowsiness.\nGiving up restlessness and remorse, they meditate without restlessness, their mind settled internally, cleansing the mind of restlessness and remorse.\nGiving up doubt, they meditate having gone beyond doubt, not undecided about skillful qualities, cleansing the mind of doubt."}},{"id":"dn25:17","sourceIds":["dn25:17.1","dn25:17.2","dn25:17.3","dn25:17.4","dn25:17.5","dn25:17.6","dn25:17.7","dn25:17.8","dn25:17.9","dn25:17.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So ime pañca nīvaraṇe pahāya cetaso upakkilese paññāya dubbalīkaraṇe\nmettāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati. Tathā dutiyaṁ. Tathā tatiyaṁ. Tathā catutthaṁ. Iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ mettāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nKaruṇāsahagatena cetasā …pe…\nmuditāsahagatena cetasā …pe…\nupekkhāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati. Tathā dutiyaṁ. Tathā tatiyaṁ. Tathā catutthaṁ. Iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ upekkhāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, nigrodha.\nYadi evaṁ sante tapojigucchā parisuddhā vā hoti aparisuddhā vā”ti?\n“Addhā kho, bhante, evaṁ sante tapojigucchā parisuddhā hoti no aparisuddhā, aggappattā ca sārappattā cā”ti.\n“Na kho, nigrodha, ettāvatā tapojigucchā aggappattā ca hoti sārappattā ca;\napi ca kho tacappattā hotī”ti.","en":"They give up these five hindrances, corruptions of the heart that weaken wisdom.\nThen they meditate spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.\nThey meditate spreading a heart full of compassion …\nThey meditate spreading a heart full of rejoicing …\nThey meditate spreading a heart full of equanimity to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of equanimity to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.\nWhat do you think, Nigrodha?\nIf this is so, is the fervent mortification in disgust of sin purified or not?”\n“Clearly, sir, it is purified. It has reached the peak and the pith.”\n“No, Nigrodha, at this point the fervent mortification in disgust of sin has not yet reached the peak and the pith.\nRather, it has only reached the bark.”"}},{"id":"dn25:18","sourceIds":["dn25:18.0","dn25:18.1","dn25:18.2","dn25:18.3","dn25:18.4","dn25:18.5","dn25:18.6","dn25:18.7","dn25:18.8","dn25:18.9","dn25:18.10","dn25:18.11","dn25:18.12","dn25:18.13","dn25:18.14","dn25:18.15","dn25:18.16","dn25:18.17","dn25:18.18"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"2.4. Parisuddhaphegguppattakathā\n“Kittāvatā pana, bhante, tapojigucchā aggappattā ca hoti sārappattā ca?\nSādhu me, bhante, bhagavā tapojigucchāya aggaññeva pāpetu, sāraññeva pāpetū”ti.\n“Idha, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti.\nKathañca, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti …pe…\nyato kho, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti, aduṁ cassa hoti tapassitāya.\nSo abhiharati no hīnāyāvattati.\nSo vivittaṁ senāsanaṁ bhajati …pe…\nso ime pañca nīvaraṇe pahāya cetaso upakkilese paññāya dubbalīkaraṇe\nmettāsahagatena cetasā …pe…\nkaruṇāsahagatena cetasā …pe…\nmuditāsahagatena cetasā …pe…\nupekkhāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarati seyyathidaṁ—ekampi jātiṁ dvepi jātiyo tissopi jātiyo catassopi jātiyo pañcapi jātiyo dasapi jātiyo vīsampi jātiyo tiṁsampi jātiyo cattālīsampi jātiyo paññāsampi jātiyo jātisatampi jātisahassampi jātisatasahassampi anekepi saṁvaṭṭakappe anekepi vivaṭṭakappe anekepi saṁvaṭṭavivaṭṭakappe: ‘amutrāsiṁ evaṁnāmo evaṅgotto evaṁvaṇṇo evamāhāro evaṁsukhadukkhappaṭisaṁvedī evamāyupariyanto, so tato cuto amutra udapādiṁ, tatrāpāsiṁ evaṁnāmo evaṅgotto evaṁvaṇṇo evamāhāro evaṁsukhadukkhappaṭisaṁvedī evamāyupariyanto, so tato cuto idhūpapanno’ti. Iti sākāraṁ sauddesaṁ anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarati.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, nigrodha,\nyadi evaṁ sante tapojigucchā parisuddhā vā hoti aparisuddhā vā”ti?\n“Addhā kho, bhante, evaṁ sante tapojigucchā parisuddhā hoti, no aparisuddhā, aggappattā ca sārappattā cā”ti.\n“Na kho, nigrodha, ettāvatā tapojigucchā aggappattā ca hoti sārappattā ca;\napi ca kho phegguppattā hotī”ti.","en":"2.4. On Reaching the Softwood\n“But at what point, sir, does the fervent mortification in disgust of sin reach the peak and the pith?\nPlease help me reach the peak and the pith!”\n“Nigrodha, take a mortifier who is restrained in the fourfold constraint.\nThey give up these five hindrances, corruptions of the heart that weaken wisdom.\nThen they meditate spreading a heart full of love …\ncompassion …\nrejoicing …\nequanimity.\nThey recollect many kinds of past lives, that is, one, two, three, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand rebirths; many eons of the world contracting, many eons of the world expanding, many eons of the world contracting and expanding. They remember: ‘There, I was named this, my clan was that, I looked like this, and that was my food. This was how I felt pleasure and pain, and that was how my life ended. When I passed away from that place I was reborn somewhere else. There, too, I was named this, my clan was that, I looked like this, and that was my food. This was how I felt pleasure and pain, and that was how my life ended. When I passed away from that place I was reborn here.’ And so they recollect their many kinds of past lives, with features and details.\nWhat do you think, Nigrodha?\nIf this is so, is the fervent mortification in disgust of sin purified or not?”\n“Clearly, sir, it is purified. It has reached the peak and the pith.”\n“No, Nigrodha, at this point the fervent mortification in disgust of sin has not yet reached the peak and the pith.\nRather, it has only reached the softwood.”"}},{"id":"dn25:19","sourceIds":["dn25:19.0","dn25:19.1","dn25:19.2","dn25:19.3","dn25:19.4","dn25:19.5","dn25:19.6","dn25:19.7","dn25:19.8","dn25:19.9","dn25:19.10","dn25:19.11","dn25:19.12","dn25:19.13","dn25:19.14","dn25:19.15","dn25:19.16","dn25:19.17","dn25:19.18","dn25:19.19","dn25:19.20","dn25:19.21"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"3. Parisuddhaaggappattasārappattakathā\n“Kittāvatā pana, bhante, tapojigucchā aggappattā ca hoti sārappattā ca?\nSādhu me, bhante, bhagavā tapojigucchāya aggaññeva pāpetu, sāraññeva pāpetū”ti.\n“Idha, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti.\nKathañca, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti …pe…\nyato kho, nigrodha, tapassī cātuyāmasaṁvarasaṁvuto hoti, aduṁ cassa hoti tapassitāya.\nSo abhiharati no hīnāyāvattati.\nSo vivittaṁ senāsanaṁ bhajati …pe…\nso ime pañca nīvaraṇe pahāya cetaso upakkilese paññāya dubbalīkaraṇe\nmettāsahagatena cetasā …pe…\nupekkhāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarati. Seyyathidaṁ—ekampi jātiṁ dvepi jātiyo tissopi jātiyo catassopi jātiyo pañcapi jātiyo …pe… iti sākāraṁ sauddesaṁ anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarati.\nSo dibbena cakkhunā visuddhena atikkantamānusakena satte passati cavamāne upapajjamāne hīne paṇīte suvaṇṇe dubbaṇṇe sugate duggate, yathākammūpage satte pajānāti: ‘ime vata bhonto sattā kāyaduccaritena samannāgatā vacīduccaritena samannāgatā manoduccaritena samannāgatā ariyānaṁ upavādakā micchādiṭṭhikā micchādiṭṭhikammasamādānā. Te kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapannā. Ime vā pana bhonto sattā kāyasucaritena samannāgatā vacīsucaritena samannāgatā manosucaritena samannāgatā ariyānaṁ anupavādakā sammādiṭṭhikā sammādiṭṭhikammasamādānā. Te kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapannā’ti. Iti dibbena cakkhunā visuddhena atikkantamānusakena satte passati cavamāne upapajjamāne hīne paṇīte suvaṇṇe dubbaṇṇe sugate duggate, yathākammūpage satte pajānāti.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, nigrodha,\nyadi evaṁ sante tapojigucchā parisuddhā vā hoti aparisuddhā vā”ti?\n“Addhā kho, bhante, evaṁ sante tapojigucchā parisuddhā hoti no aparisuddhā, aggappattā ca sārappattā cā”ti.\n“Ettāvatā kho, nigrodha, tapojigucchā aggappattā ca hoti sārappattā ca.\nIti kho, nigrodha, yaṁ maṁ tvaṁ avacāsi:\n‘ko nāma so, bhante, bhagavato dhammo, yena bhagavā sāvake vineti, yena bhagavatā sāvakā vinītā assāsappattā paṭijānanti ajjhāsayaṁ ādibrahmacariyan’ti.\nIti kho taṁ, nigrodha, ṭhānaṁ uttaritarañca paṇītatarañca, yenāhaṁ sāvake vinemi, yena mayā sāvakā vinītā assāsappattā paṭijānanti ajjhāsayaṁ ādibrahmacariyan”ti.\nEvaṁ vutte, te paribbājakā unnādino uccāsaddamahāsaddā ahesuṁ:\n“ettha mayaṁ anassāma sācariyakā, na mayaṁ ito bhiyyo uttaritaraṁ pajānāmā”ti.","en":"3. On Reaching the Heartwood\n“But at what point, sir, does the fervent mortification in disgust of sin reach the peak and the pith?\nPlease help me reach the peak and the pith!”\n“Nigrodha, take a mortifier who is restrained in the fourfold constraint.\nThey give up these five hindrances, corruptions of the heart that weaken wisdom.\nThen they meditate spreading a heart full of love …\nequanimity …\nThey recollect many kinds of past lives, with features and details.\nWith clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, they see sentient beings passing away and being reborn—inferior and superior, beautiful and ugly, in a good place or a bad place. They understand how sentient beings pass on according to their deeds: ‘These dear beings did bad things by way of body, speech, and mind. They denounced the noble ones; they had wrong view; and they chose to act out of that wrong view. When their body broke up, after death, they were reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell. These dear beings, however, did good things by way of body, speech, and mind. They never denounced the noble ones; they had right view; and they chose to act out of that right view. When their body broke up, after death, they were reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm.’ And so, with clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, they see sentient beings passing away and being reborn—inferior and superior, beautiful and ugly, in a good place or a bad place. They understand how sentient beings pass on according to their deeds.\nWhat do you think, Nigrodha?\nIf this is so, is the fervent mortification in disgust of sin purified or not?”\n“Clearly, sir, it is purified. It has reached the peak and the pith.”\n“Nigrodha, at this point the fervent mortification in disgust of sin has reached the peak and the pith.\nNigrodha, remember you said this to me:\n‘Sir, what teaching do you use to guide your disciples, through which they claim solace in the fundamental goal of the spiritual life?’\nWell, there is something better and finer than this. That’s what I use to guide my disciples, through which they claim solace in the fundamental goal of the spiritual life.”\nWhen he said this, those wanderers made an uproar,\n“In that case, we’re lost, and so is our denomination! We don’t know anything better or finer than that!”"}},{"id":"dn25:20","sourceIds":["dn25:20.0","dn25:20.1","dn25:20.2","dn25:20.3","dn25:20.4","dn25:20.5","dn25:20.6","dn25:20.7","dn25:20.8","dn25:20.9","dn25:20.10","dn25:20.11"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"4. Nigrodhassapajjhāyana\nYadā aññāsi sandhāno gahapati:\n“aññadatthu kho dānime aññatitthiyā paribbājakā bhagavato bhāsitaṁ sussūsanti, sotaṁ odahanti, aññācittaṁ upaṭṭhāpentī”ti.\nAtha nigrodhaṁ paribbājakaṁ etadavoca:\n“iti kho, bhante nigrodha, yaṁ maṁ tvaṁ avacāsi:\n‘yagghe, gahapati, jāneyyāsi, kena samaṇo gotamo saddhiṁ sallapati, kena sākacchaṁ samāpajjati, kena paññāveyyattiyaṁ samāpajjati,\nsuññāgārahatā samaṇassa gotamassa paññā, aparisāvacaro samaṇo gotamo nālaṁ sallāpāya, so antamantāneva sevati;\nseyyathāpi nāma gokāṇā pariyantacārinī antamantāneva sevati.\nEvameva suññāgārahatā samaṇassa gotamassa paññā, aparisāvacaro samaṇo gotamo nālaṁ sallāpāya; so antamantāneva sevati;\niṅgha, gahapati, samaṇo gotamo imaṁ parisaṁ āgaccheyya, ekapañheneva naṁ saṁsādeyyāma, tucchakumbhīva naṁ maññe orodheyyāmā’ti.\nAyaṁ kho so, bhante, bhagavā arahaṁ sammāsambuddho idhānuppatto, aparisāvacaraṁ pana naṁ karotha, gokāṇaṁ pariyantacāriniṁ karotha, ekapañheneva naṁ saṁsādetha, tucchakumbhīva naṁ orodhethā”ti.\nEvaṁ vutte, nigrodho paribbājako tuṇhībhūto maṅkubhūto pattakkhandho adhomukho pajjhāyanto appaṭibhāno nisīdi.","en":"4. Nigrodha Feels Depressed\nThen the householder Sandhāna realized,\n“Obviously, now these wanderers want to listen to what the Buddha says. They’re actively listening and trying to understand!”\nSo he said to the wanderer Nigrodha,\n“Honorable Nigrodha, remember you said this to me:\n‘Surely, householder, you should know better! With whom does the ascetic Gotama converse? With whom does he engage in discussion? With whom does he achieve lucidity of wisdom?\nStaying in empty huts has destroyed the ascetic Gotama’s wisdom. Not frequenting assemblies, he is unable to hold a discussion. He just lurks on the periphery.\nHe’s just like a one-eyed cow, circling around and lurking on the periphery.\nPlease, householder, let the ascetic Gotama come to this assembly. I’ll sink him with just one question! I’ll roll him over and wrap him up like a hollow pot!’\nNow the Blessed One, perfected and fully awakened, has arrived here. Why don’t you send him out of the assembly to the periphery like a one-eyed cow? Why don’t you sink him with just one question? Why don’t you roll him over and wrap him up like a hollow pot?”\nWhen he said this, Nigrodha sat silent, dismayed, shoulders drooping, downcast, depressed, with nothing to say."}},{"id":"dn25:21","sourceIds":["dn25:21.1","dn25:21.2","dn25:21.3","dn25:21.4","dn25:21.5","dn25:21.6","dn25:21.7","dn25:21.8","dn25:21.9","dn25:21.10","dn25:21.11","dn25:21.12","dn25:21.13","dn25:21.14","dn25:21.15","dn25:21.16"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Atha kho bhagavā nigrodhaṁ paribbājakaṁ tuṇhībhūtaṁ maṅkubhūtaṁ pattakkhandhaṁ adhomukhaṁ pajjhāyantaṁ appaṭibhānaṁ viditvā nigrodhaṁ paribbājakaṁ etadavoca:\n“saccaṁ kira, nigrodha, bhāsitā te esā vācā”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhante, bhāsitā me esā vācā, yathābālena yathāmūḷhena yathāakusalenā”ti.\n“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, nigrodha.\nKinti te sutaṁ paribbājakānaṁ vuḍḍhānaṁ mahallakānaṁ ācariyapācariyānaṁ bhāsamānānaṁ:\n‘ye te ahesuṁ atītamaddhānaṁ arahanto sammāsambuddhā, evaṁ su te bhagavanto saṅgamma samāgamma unnādino uccāsaddamahāsaddā anekavihitaṁ tiracchānakathaṁ anuyuttā viharanti.\nSeyyathidaṁ—rājakathaṁ corakathaṁ …pe… itibhavābhavakathaṁ iti vā.\nSeyyathāpi tvaṁ etarahi sācariyako.\nUdāhu, evaṁ su te bhagavanto araññavanapatthāni pantāni senāsanāni paṭisevanti appasaddāni appanigghosāni vijanavātāni manussarāhasseyyakāni paṭisallānasāruppāni, seyyathāpāhaṁ etarahī’”ti.\n“Sutaṁ metaṁ, bhante. Paribbājakānaṁ vuḍḍhānaṁ mahallakānaṁ ācariyapācariyānaṁ bhāsamānānaṁ:\n‘ye te ahesuṁ atītamaddhānaṁ arahanto sammāsambuddhā, na evaṁ su te bhagavanto saṅgamma samāgamma unnādino uccāsaddamahāsaddā anekavihitaṁ tiracchānakathaṁ anuyuttā viharanti.\nSeyyathidaṁ—rājakathaṁ corakathaṁ …pe… itibhavābhavakathaṁ iti vā,\nseyyathāpāhaṁ etarahi sācariyako.\nEvaṁ su te bhagavanto araññavanapatthāni pantāni senāsanāni paṭisevanti appasaddāni appanigghosāni vijanavātāni manussarāhasseyyakāni paṭisallānasāruppāni, seyyathāpi bhagavā etarahī’”ti.\n“Tassa te, nigrodha, viññussa sato mahallakassa na etadahosi:\n‘buddho so bhagavā bodhāya dhammaṁ deseti, danto so bhagavā damathāya dhammaṁ deseti, santo so bhagavā samathāya dhammaṁ deseti, tiṇṇo so bhagavā taraṇāya dhammaṁ deseti, parinibbuto so bhagavā parinibbānāya dhammaṁ desetī’”ti?","en":"Knowing this, the Buddha said to him,\n“Is it really true, Nigrodha—are those your words?”\n“It’s true, sir, those are my words. It was foolish, stupid, and unskillful of me.”\n“What do you think, Nigrodha?\nHave you heard that wanderers of the past who were elderly and senior, the tutors of tutors, said that\nwhen the perfected ones, the fully awakened Buddhas of the past came together, they made an uproar, a colossal racket as they sat and talked about all kinds of low topics,\nlike you do in your denomination these days?\nOr did they say that the Buddhas frequented remote lodgings in the wilderness and the forest that are quiet and still, far from the madding crowd, remote from human settlements, and fit for retreat, like I do these days?”\n“I have heard that wanderers of the past who were elderly and senior, said that\nwhen the perfected ones, the fully awakened Buddhas of the past came together, they didn’t make an uproar,\nlike I do in my denomination these days.\nThey said that the Buddhas of the past frequented remote lodgings in the wilderness, like the Buddha does these days.”\n“Nigrodha, you are a sensible and mature man. Did it not occur to you:\n‘The Blessed One is awakened, tamed, serene, crossed over, and quenched. And he teaches Dhamma for awakening, taming, serenity, crossing over, and extinguishment’?”"}},{"id":"dn25:22","sourceIds":["dn25:22.0","dn25:22.1","dn25:22.2","dn25:22.3","dn25:22.4","dn25:22.5","dn25:22.6","dn25:22.7","dn25:22.8","dn25:22.9","dn25:22.10","dn25:22.11","dn25:22.12","dn25:22.13","dn25:22.14","dn25:22.15","dn25:22.16","dn25:22.17","dn25:22.18","dn25:22.19","dn25:22.20","dn25:22.21","dn25:22.22","dn25:22.23","dn25:22.24","dn25:22.25","dn25:22.26","dn25:22.27","dn25:22.28","dn25:22.29","dn25:22.30","dn25:22.31"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"5. Brahmacariyapariyosānasacchikiriyā\nEvaṁ vutte, nigrodho paribbājako bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“accayo maṁ, bhante, accagamā yathābālaṁ yathāmūḷhaṁ yathāakusalaṁ, yvāhaṁ evaṁ bhagavantaṁ avacāsiṁ.\nTassa me, bhante, bhagavā accayaṁ accayato paṭiggaṇhātu āyatiṁ saṁvarāyā”ti.\n“Taggha tvaṁ, nigrodha, accayo accagamā yathābālaṁ yathāmūḷhaṁ yathāakusalaṁ, yo maṁ tvaṁ evaṁ avacāsi.\nYato ca kho tvaṁ, nigrodha, accayaṁ accayato disvā yathādhammaṁ paṭikarosi, taṁ te mayaṁ paṭiggaṇhāma.\nVuddhi hesā, nigrodha, ariyassa vinaye, yo accayaṁ accayato disvā yathādhammaṁ paṭikaroti āyatiṁ saṁvaraṁ āpajjati.\nAhaṁ kho pana, nigrodha, evaṁ vadāmi:\n‘Etu viññū puriso asaṭho amāyāvī ujujātiko, ahamanusāsāmi ahaṁ dhammaṁ desemi.\nYathānusiṭṭhaṁ tathā paṭipajjamāno—yassatthāya kulaputtā sammadeva agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajanti, tadanuttaraṁ—brahmacariyapariyosānaṁ diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharissati sattavassāni.\nTiṭṭhantu, nigrodha, satta vassāni.\nEtu viññū puriso asaṭho amāyāvī ujujātiko, ahamanusāsāmi ahaṁ dhammaṁ desemi.\nYathānusiṭṭhaṁ tathā paṭipajjamāno—yassatthāya kulaputtā sammadeva agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajanti, tadanuttaraṁ—brahmacariyapariyosānaṁ diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharissati cha vassāni.\nPañca vassāni …\ncattāri vassāni …\ntīṇi vassāni …\ndve vassāni …\nekaṁ vassaṁ.\nTiṭṭhatu, nigrodha, ekaṁ vassaṁ.\nEtu viññū puriso asaṭho amāyāvī ujujātiko ahamanusāsāmi ahaṁ dhammaṁ desemi.\nYathānusiṭṭhaṁ tathā paṭipajjamāno—yassatthāya kulaputtā sammadeva agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajanti, tadanuttaraṁ—brahmacariyapariyosānaṁ diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharissati satta māsāni.\nTiṭṭhantu, nigrodha, satta māsāni …\ncha māsāni …\npañca māsāni …\ncattāri māsāni …\ntīṇi māsāni …\ndve māsāni …\nekaṁ māsaṁ …\naḍḍhamāsaṁ.\nTiṭṭhatu, nigrodha, aḍḍhamāso.\nEtu viññū puriso asaṭho amāyāvī ujujātiko, ahamanusāsāmi ahaṁ dhammaṁ desemi.\nYathānusiṭṭhaṁ tathā paṭipajjamāno—yassatthāya kulaputtā sammadeva agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajanti, tadanuttaraṁ—brahmacariyapariyosānaṁ diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharissati sattāhaṁ’.","en":"5. The Culmination of the Spiritual Path\nNigrodha said,\n“I made a mistake, sir. It was foolish, stupid, and unskillful of me to speak in that way.\nPlease, sir, accept my mistake for what it is, so I will restrain myself in future.”\n“Indeed, Nigrodha, you made a mistake. It was foolish, stupid, and unskillful of you to speak in that way.\nBut since you have recognized your mistake for what it is, and have dealt with it properly, I accept it.\nFor it is growth in the training of the Noble One to recognize a mistake for what it is, deal with it properly, and commit to restraint in the future.\nNigrodha, this is what I say:\nLet a sensible person come—neither devious nor deceitful, a person of integrity. I teach and instruct them.\nBy practicing as instructed they will realize the supreme culmination of the spiritual path in this very life, in seven years. They will live having achieved with their own insight the goal for which gentlemen rightly go forth from the lay life to homelessness.\nLet alone seven years.\nLet a sensible person come—neither devious nor deceitful, a person of integrity. I teach and instruct them.\nBy practicing as instructed they will realize the supreme culmination of the spiritual path in this very life, in six years …\nfive years …\nfour years …\nthree years …\ntwo years …\none year …\nseven months …\nsix months …\nfive months …\nfour months …\nthree months …\ntwo months …\none month …\na fortnight.\nLet alone a fortnight.\nLet a sensible person come—neither devious nor deceitful, a person of integrity. I teach and instruct them.\nBy practicing as instructed they will realize the supreme culmination of the spiritual path in this very life, in seven days."}},{"id":"dn25:23","sourceIds":["dn25:23.0","dn25:23.1","dn25:23.2","dn25:23.3","dn25:23.4","dn25:23.5","dn25:23.6","dn25:23.7","dn25:23.8","dn25:23.9","dn25:23.10","dn25:23.11","dn25:23.12","dn25:23.13","dn25:23.14","dn25:23.15","dn25:23.16","dn25:23.17","dn25:23.18","dn25:23.19","dn25:23.20","dn25:23.21","dn25:23.22","dn25:23.23"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"6. Paribbājakānaṁpajjhāyana\nSiyā kho pana te, nigrodha, evamassa:\n‘antevāsikamyatā no samaṇo gotamo evamāhā’ti.\nNa kho panetaṁ, nigrodha, evaṁ daṭṭhabbaṁ.\nYo eva vo ācariyo, so eva vo ācariyo hotu.\nSiyā kho pana te, nigrodha, evamassa:\n‘uddesā no cāvetukāmo samaṇo gotamo evamāhā’ti.\nNa kho panetaṁ, nigrodha, evaṁ daṭṭhabbaṁ.\nYo eva vo uddeso so eva vo uddeso hotu.\nSiyā kho pana te, nigrodha, evamassa:\n‘ājīvā no cāvetukāmo samaṇo gotamo evamāhā’ti.\nNa kho panetaṁ, nigrodha, evaṁ daṭṭhabbaṁ.\nYo eva vo ājīvo, so eva vo ājīvo hotu.\nSiyā kho pana te, nigrodha, evamassa:\n‘ye no dhammā akusalā akusalasaṅkhātā sācariyakānaṁ, tesu patiṭṭhāpetukāmo samaṇo gotamo evamāhā’ti.\nNa kho panetaṁ, nigrodha, evaṁ daṭṭhabbaṁ.\nAkusalā ceva vo te dhammā hontu akusalasaṅkhātā ca sācariyakānaṁ.\nSiyā kho pana te, nigrodha, evamassa:\n‘ye no dhammā kusalā kusalasaṅkhātā sācariyakānaṁ, tehi vivecetukāmo samaṇo gotamo evamāhā’ti.\nNa kho panetaṁ, nigrodha, evaṁ daṭṭhabbaṁ.\nKusalā ceva vo te dhammā hontu kusalasaṅkhātā ca sācariyakānaṁ.\nIti khvāhaṁ, nigrodha, neva antevāsikamyatā evaṁ vadāmi, napi uddesā cāvetukāmo evaṁ vadāmi, napi ājīvā cāvetukāmo evaṁ vadāmi, napi ye vo dhammā akusalā akusalasaṅkhātā sācariyakānaṁ, tesu patiṭṭhāpetukāmo evaṁ vadāmi, napi ye vo dhammā kusalā kusalasaṅkhātā sācariyakānaṁ, tehi vivecetukāmo evaṁ vadāmi.\nSanti ca kho, nigrodha, akusalā dhammā appahīnā saṅkilesikā ponobbhavikā sadarā dukkhavipākā āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇiyā, yesāhaṁ pahānāya dhammaṁ desemi.\nYathāpaṭipannānaṁ vo saṅkilesikā dhammā pahīyissanti, vodānīyā dhammā abhivaḍḍhissanti, paññāpāripūriṁ vepullattañca diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharissathā”ti.","en":"6. The Wanderers Feel Depressed\nNigrodha, you might think,\n‘The ascetic Gotama speaks like this because he wants pupils.’\nBut you should not see it like this.\nLet your tutor remain your tutor.\nYou might think,\n‘The ascetic Gotama speaks like this because he wants us to give up our recitation.’\nBut you should not see it like this.\nLet your recitation remain as it is.\nYou might think,\n‘The ascetic Gotama speaks like this because he wants us to give up our livelihood.’\nBut you should not see it like this.\nLet your livelihood remain as it is.\nYou might think,\n‘The ascetic Gotama speaks like this because he wants us to start doing things that are unskillful and considered unskillful in our denomination.’\nBut you should not see it like this.\nLet those things that are unskillful and considered unskillful in your denomination remain as they are.\nYou might think,\n‘The ascetic Gotama speaks like this because he wants us to stop doing things that are skillful and considered skillful in our denomination.’\nBut you should not see it like this.\nLet those things that are skillful and considered skillful in your denomination remain as they are.\nI do not speak for any of these reasons.\nNigrodha, there are things that are unskillful, corrupting, leading to future lives, hurtful, resulting in suffering and future rebirth, old age, and death. I teach Dhamma so that those things may be given up.\nWhen you practice accordingly, corrupting qualities will be given up in you and cleansing qualities will grow. You’ll enter and remain in the fullness and abundance of wisdom, having realized it with your own insight in this very life.”"}},{"id":"dn25:24","sourceIds":["dn25:24.1","dn25:24.2","dn25:24.3","dn25:24.4","dn25:24.5","dn25:24.6","dn25:24.7","dn25:24.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ vutte, te paribbājakā tuṇhībhūtā maṅkubhūtā pattakkhandhā adhomukhā pajjhāyantā appaṭibhānā nisīdiṁsu yathā taṁ mārena pariyuṭṭhitacittā.\nAtha kho bhagavato etadahosi:\n“sabbepime moghapurisā phuṭṭhā pāpimatā.\nYatra hi nāma ekassapi na evaṁ bhavissati:\n‘handa mayaṁ aññāṇatthampi samaṇe gotame brahmacariyaṁ carāma, kiṁ karissati sattāho’”ti?\nAtha kho bhagavā udumbarikāya paribbājakārāme sīhanādaṁ naditvā vehāsaṁ abbhuggantvā gijjhakūṭe pabbate paccupaṭṭhāsi.\nSandhāno pana gahapati tāvadeva rājagahaṁ pāvisīti.\nUdumbarikasuttaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ dutiyaṁ.","en":"When this was said, those wanderers sat silent, dismayed, shoulders drooping, downcast, depressed, with nothing to say, as if their minds were possessed by Māra.\nThen it occurred to the Buddha,\n“All these silly people have been touched by the Wicked One!\nFor not even a single one thinks,\n‘Come, let us lead the spiritual life under the ascetic Gotama for the sake of enlightenment—for what do seven days matter?’”\nThen the Buddha, having roared his lion’s roar in the lady Udumbarikā’s monastery for wanderers, rose into the air and landed on Vulture’s Peak.\nMeanwhile, the householder Sandhāna went right back to Rājagaha."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/dn25/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}