{"id":"iti103","title":"Ascetics and Brahmins","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"iti103","title":"Ascetics and Brahmins","units":[{"id":"iti103:0","sourceIds":["iti103:0.1","iti103:0.2","iti103:0.3","iti103:0.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Itivuttaka 103\nCatukkanipāta\nBrāhmaṇadhammayāgavagga\nSamaṇabrāhmaṇasutta","en":"So It Was Said 103\nThe Book of the Fours\nThe Chapter on the Brahmin’s Offering of the Teaching\nAscetics and Brahmins"}},{"id":"iti103:1","sourceIds":["iti103:1.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Vuttañhetaṁ bhagavatā vuttamarahatāti me sutaṁ:","en":"This was said by the Buddha, the Perfected One: that is what I heard."}},{"id":"iti103:2","sourceIds":["iti103:2.1","iti103:2.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ye hi keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti; ‘ayaṁ dukkhasamudayo’ti yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti; ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodho’ti yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti; ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti—\nna me te, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu vā samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu vā brāhmaṇasammatā, na ca panete āyasmanto sāmaññatthaṁ vā brahmaññatthaṁ vā diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharanti.","en":"“Mendicants, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t truly understand about suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path.\nI don’t deem them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables don’t realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and don’t live having realized it with their own insight in this very life."}},{"id":"iti103:3","sourceIds":["iti103:3.1","iti103:3.2","iti103:3.3","iti103:3.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ye ca kho keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānanti; ‘ayaṁ dukkhasamudayo’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānanti; ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodho’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānanti; ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ pajānanti—\nte kho me, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu ceva samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu ca brāhmaṇasammatā, te ca panāyasmanto sāmaññatthañca brahmaññatthañca diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharantī”ti.\nEtamatthaṁ bhagavā avoca.\nTatthetaṁ iti vuccati:","en":"There are ascetics and brahmins who truly understand about suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the path.\nI regard them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and live having realized it with their own insight.”\nThe Buddha spoke this matter.\nOn this it is said:"}},{"id":"iti103:4","sourceIds":["iti103:4.1","iti103:4.2","iti103:4.3","iti103:4.4","iti103:4.5","iti103:4.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ye dukkhaṁ nappajānanti,\natho dukkhassa sambhavaṁ;\nYattha ca sabbaso dukkhaṁ,\nasesaṁ uparujjhati;\nTañca maggaṁ na jānanti,\ndukkhūpasamagāminaṁ.","en":"“There are those who don’t understand suffering\nand suffering’s cause,\nand where all suffering\ncease with no residue left behind.\nAnd they do not know the path\nthat leads to the stilling of suffering."}},{"id":"iti103:5","sourceIds":["iti103:5.1","iti103:5.2","iti103:5.3","iti103:5.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Cetovimuttihīnā te,\nAtho paññāvimuttiyā;\nAbhabbā te antakiriyāya,\nTe ve jātijarūpagā.","en":"They lack the heart’s release,\nas well as the release by wisdom.\nUnable to make an end,\nthey continue to be reborn and grow old."}},{"id":"iti103:6","sourceIds":["iti103:6.1","iti103:6.2","iti103:6.3","iti103:6.4","iti103:6.5","iti103:6.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ye ca dukkhaṁ pajānanti,\natho dukkhassa sambhavaṁ;\nYattha ca sabbaso dukkhaṁ,\nasesaṁ uparujjhati;\nTañca maggaṁ pajānanti,\ndukkhūpasamagāminaṁ.","en":"But there are those who understand suffering\nand suffering’s cause,\nand where all suffering\ncease with no residue left behind.\nAnd they understand the path\nthat leads to the stilling of suffering."}},{"id":"iti103:7","sourceIds":["iti103:7.1","iti103:7.2","iti103:7.3","iti103:7.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Cetovimuttisampannā,\natho paññāvimuttiyā;\nBhabbā te antakiriyāya,\nna te jātijarūpagā”ti.","en":"They’re endowed with the heart’s release,\nas well as the release by wisdom.\nAble to make an end,\nthey don’t continue to be reborn and grow old.”"}},{"id":"iti103:8","sourceIds":["iti103:8.1","iti103:8.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ayampi attho vutto bhagavatā, iti me sutanti.\nCatutthaṁ.","en":"This too is a matter that was spoken by the Blessed One: that is what I heard."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/iti103/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}