{"id":"mn100","title":"With Saṅgārava","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"mn100","title":"With Saṅgārava","units":[{"id":"mn100:0","sourceIds":["mn100:0.1","mn100:0.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Majjhima Nikāya 100\nSaṅgāravasutta","en":"Middle Discourses 100\nWith Saṅgārava"}},{"id":"mn100:1","sourceIds":["mn100:1.1","mn100:1.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ me sutaṁ—\nekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā kosalesu cārikaṁ carati mahatā bhikkhusaṅghena saddhiṁ.","en":"So I have heard.\nAt one time the Buddha was wandering in the land of the Kosalans together with a large Saṅgha of mendicants."}},{"id":"mn100:2","sourceIds":["mn100:2.1","mn100:2.2","mn100:2.3","mn100:2.4","mn100:2.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tena kho pana samayena dhanañjānī nāma brāhmaṇī cañcalikappe paṭivasati abhippasannā buddhe ca dhamme ca saṅghe ca.\nAtha kho dhanañjānī brāhmaṇī upakkhalitvā tikkhattuṁ udānaṁ udānesi:\n“Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammāsambuddhassa.\nNamo tassa bhagavato arahato sammāsambuddhassa.\nNamo tassa bhagavato arahato sammāsambuddhassā”ti.","en":"Now at that time a brahmin lady named Dhanañjānī was residing at Caṇḍalakappa. She was devoted to the Buddha, the teaching, and the Saṅgha.\nOnce, she tripped and expressed this heartfelt sentiment three times:\n“Homage to him, the blessed one, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha!\nHomage to him, the blessed one, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha!\nHomage to him, the blessed one, the perfected one, the fully awakened Buddha!”"}},{"id":"mn100:3","sourceIds":["mn100:3.1","mn100:3.2","mn100:3.3","mn100:3.4","mn100:3.5","mn100:3.6","mn100:3.7","mn100:3.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tena kho pana samayena saṅgāravo nāma māṇavo cañcalikappe paṭivasati tiṇṇaṁ vedānaṁ pāragū sanighaṇḍukeṭubhānaṁ sākkharappabhedānaṁ itihāsapañcamānaṁ, padako, veyyākaraṇo, lokāyatamahāpurisalakkhaṇesu anavayo.\nAssosi kho saṅgāravo māṇavo dhanañjāniyā brāhmaṇiyā evaṁ vācaṁ bhāsamānāya.\nSutvā dhanañjāniṁ brāhmaṇiṁ etadavoca:\n“avabhūtāva ayaṁ dhanañjānī brāhmaṇī, parabhūtāva ayaṁ dhanañjānī brāhmaṇī, vijjamānānaṁ tevijjānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ, atha ca pana tassa muṇḍakassa samaṇakassa vaṇṇaṁ bhāsissatī”ti.\n“Na hi pana tvaṁ, tāta bhadramukha, tassa bhagavato sīlapaññāṇaṁ jānāsi.\nSace tvaṁ, tāta bhadramukha, tassa bhagavato sīlapaññāṇaṁ jāneyyāsi, na tvaṁ, tāta bhadramukha, taṁ bhagavantaṁ akkositabbaṁ paribhāsitabbaṁ maññeyyāsī”ti.\n“Tena hi, bhoti, yadā samaṇo gotamo cañcalikappaṁ anuppatto hoti atha me āroceyyāsī”ti.\n“Evaṁ, bhadramukhā”ti kho dhanañjānī brāhmaṇī saṅgāravassa māṇavassa paccassosi.","en":"Now at that time the student Saṅgārava was residing in Caṇḍalakappa. He was young, newly tonsured; he was sixteen years old. He had mastered the three Vedas, together with their vocabularies and ritual performance, their phonology and word classification, and the testaments as fifth. He knew them word-by-word, and their grammar. He was well versed in cosmology and the marks of a great man.\nHearing Dhanañjānī’s exclamation,\nhe said to her,\n“The brahmin lady Dhanañjānī is a disgrace! Though brahmins proficient in the three Vedas are found, she will praise that shaveling, that fake ascetic.”\n“But dearest boy, you don’t understand the Buddha’s ethics and wisdom.\nIf you did, you’d never think of abusing or insulting him.”\n“Well then, ma’am, let me know when the Buddha arrives in Caṇḍalakappa.”\n“I will, dearest,” she replied."}},{"id":"mn100:4","sourceIds":["mn100:4.1","mn100:4.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Atha kho bhagavā kosalesu anupubbena cārikaṁ caramāno yena cañcalikappaṁ tadavasari.\nTatra sudaṁ bhagavā cañcalikappe viharati todeyyānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ambavane.","en":"And then the Buddha, traveling stage by stage in the Kosalan lands, arrived at Caṇḍalakappa,\nwhere he stayed in the mango grove of the Todeyya brahmins."}},{"id":"mn100:5","sourceIds":["mn100:5.1","mn100:5.2","mn100:5.3","mn100:5.4","mn100:5.5","mn100:5.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Assosi kho dhanañjānī brāhmaṇī: “bhagavā kira cañcalikappaṁ anuppatto, cañcalikappe viharati todeyyānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ambavane”ti.\nAtha kho dhanañjānī brāhmaṇī yena saṅgāravo māṇavo tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā saṅgāravaṁ māṇavaṁ etadavoca:\n“ayaṁ, tāta bhadramukha, so bhagavā cañcalikappaṁ anuppatto, cañcalikappe viharati todeyyānaṁ brāhmaṇānaṁ ambavane.\nYassadāni, tāta bhadramukha, kālaṁ maññasī”ti.\n“Evaṁ, bho”ti kho saṅgāravo māṇavo dhanañjāniyā brāhmaṇiyā paṭissutvā yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavatā saddhiṁ sammodi.\nSammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho saṅgāravo māṇavo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:","en":"Dhanañjānī heard that he had arrived.\nSo she went to Saṅgārava and told him, adding,\n“Please, dearest boy, go at your convenience.”\n“Yes, ma’am,” replied Saṅgārava. He went to the Buddha and exchanged greetings with him.\nWhen the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to the Buddha:"}},{"id":"mn100:6","sourceIds":["mn100:6.1","mn100:6.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Santi kho, bho gotama, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā diṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā, ādibrahmacariyaṁ paṭijānanti.\nTatra, bho gotama, ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā diṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā, ādibrahmacariyaṁ paṭijānanti, tesaṁ bhavaṁ gotamo katamo”ti?","en":"“Worthy Gotama, there are some ascetics and brahmins who claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life having attained perfection and consummation of insight in this life.\nWhere do you stand regarding these?”"}},{"id":"mn100:7","sourceIds":["mn100:7.1","mn100:7.2","mn100:7.3","mn100:7.4","mn100:7.5","mn100:7.6","mn100:7.7","mn100:7.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Diṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattānaṁ, ādibrahmacariyaṁ paṭijānantānampi kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, vemattaṁ vadāmi.\nSanti, bhāradvāja, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā anussavikā.\nTe anussavena diṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā, ādibrahmacariyaṁ paṭijānanti;\nseyyathāpi brāhmaṇā tevijjā.\nSanti pana, bhāradvāja, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā kevalaṁ saddhāmattakena diṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā, ādibrahmacariyaṁ paṭijānanti;\nseyyathāpi takkī vīmaṁsī.\nSanti, bhāradvāja, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā pubbe ananussutesu dhammesu sāmaṁyeva dhammaṁ abhiññāya diṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā, ādibrahmacariyaṁ paṭijānanti.\nTatra, bhāradvāja, ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā pubbe ananussutesu dhammesu sāmaṁyeva dhammaṁ abhiññāya diṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā, ādibrahmacariyaṁ paṭijānanti, tesāhamasmi.","en":"“I say there is a disparity among those who claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life having attained perfection and consummation of insight in this life.\nThere are some ascetics and brahmins who are oral transmitters.\nThrough oral transmission they claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life.\nFor example, the brahmins who are proficient in the three Vedas.\nThere are some ascetics and brahmins who solely by mere faith claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life.\nFor example, those who rely on logic and inquiry.\nThere are some ascetics and brahmins who, having directly known for themselves the principle regarding teachings not learned before from another, claim to have mastered the fundamentals of the spiritual life.\nI am one of those."}},{"id":"mn100:8","sourceIds":["mn100:8.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tadamināpetaṁ, bhāradvāja, pariyāyena veditabbaṁ, yathā ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā pubbe ananussutesu dhammesu sāmaṁyeva dhammaṁ abhiññāya diṭṭhadhammābhiññāvosānapāramippattā, ādibrahmacariyaṁ paṭijānanti, tesāhamasmi.","en":"And here’s a way to understand that I am one of them."}},{"id":"mn100:9","sourceIds":["mn100:9.1","mn100:9.2","mn100:9.3","mn100:9.4","mn100:9.5","mn100:9.6","mn100:9.7","mn100:9.8","mn100:9.9","mn100:9.10","mn100:9.11","mn100:9.12","mn100:9.13","mn100:9.14","mn100:9.15"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Idha me, bhāradvāja, pubbeva sambodhā anabhisambuddhassa bodhisattasseva sato etadahosi:\n‘sambādho gharāvāso rajāpatho, abbhokāso pabbajjā.\nNayidaṁ sukaraṁ agāraṁ ajjhāvasatā ekantaparipuṇṇaṁ ekantaparisuddhaṁ saṅkhalikhitaṁ brahmacariyaṁ carituṁ.\nYannūnāhaṁ kesamassuṁ ohāretvā kāsāyāni vatthāni acchādetvā agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajeyyan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, aparena samayena daharova samāno susukāḷakeso bhadrena yobbanena samannāgato paṭhamena vayasā akāmakānaṁ mātāpitūnaṁ assumukhānaṁ rudantānaṁ kesamassuṁ ohāretvā kāsāyāni vatthāni acchādetvā agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajiṁ.\nSo evaṁ pabbajito samāno kiṅkusalagavesī anuttaraṁ santivarapadaṁ pariyesamāno yena āḷāro kālāmo tenupasaṅkamiṁ; upasaṅkamitvā āḷāraṁ kālāmaṁ etadavocaṁ:\n‘icchāmahaṁ, āvuso kālāma, imasmiṁ dhammavinaye brahmacariyaṁ caritun’ti.\nEvaṁ vutte, bhāradvāja, āḷāro kālāmo maṁ etadavoca:\n‘viharatāyasmā.\nTādiso ayaṁ dhammo yattha viññū puriso nacirasseva sakaṁ ācariyakaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja vihareyyā’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, nacirasseva khippameva taṁ dhammaṁ pariyāpuṇiṁ.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, tāvatakeneva oṭṭhapahatamattena lapitalāpanamattena ‘ñāṇavādañca vadāmi, theravādañca jānāmi, passāmī’ti ca paṭijānāmi, ahañceva aññe ca.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘na kho āḷāro kālāmo imaṁ dhammaṁ kevalaṁ saddhāmattakena sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharāmīti pavedeti;\naddhā āḷāro kālāmo imaṁ dhammaṁ jānaṁ passaṁ viharatī’ti.","en":"Before my awakening—when I was still unawakened but intent on awakening—I thought:\n‘Life at home is cramped and dirty, life gone forth is wide open.\nIt’s not easy for someone living at home to lead the spiritual life utterly full and pure, like a polished shell.\nWhy don’t I shave off my hair and beard, dress in ocher robes, and go forth from the lay life to homelessness?’\nSome time later, while still with pristine black hair, blessed with youth, in the prime of life—though my mother and father wished otherwise, weeping with tearful faces—I shaved off my hair and beard, dressed in ocher robes, and went forth from the lay life to homelessness.\nOnce I had gone forth I set out to discover what is skillful, seeking the supreme state of sublime peace. I approached Āḷāra Kālāma and said to him,\n‘Reverend Kālāma, I wish to lead the spiritual life in this teaching and training.’\nĀḷāra Kālāma replied,\n‘Stay, venerable.\nThis teaching is such that a sensible person can soon realize their own denomination with their own insight and live having achieved it.’\nI quickly memorized that teaching.\nAs far as lip-recital and verbal repetition went, I spoke the doctrine of knowledge, the elder doctrine. I claimed to know and see, and so did others.\nThen it occurred to me,\n‘It is not solely by mere faith that Āḷāra Kālāma declares: “I realize this teaching with my own insight, and live having achieved it.”\nSurely he meditates knowing and seeing this teaching.’"}},{"id":"mn100:10","sourceIds":["mn100:10.1","mn100:10.2","mn100:10.3","mn100:10.4","mn100:10.5","mn100:10.6","mn100:10.7","mn100:10.8","mn100:10.9","mn100:10.10","mn100:10.11","mn100:10.12","mn100:10.13","mn100:10.14","mn100:10.15","mn100:10.16","mn100:10.17","mn100:10.18","mn100:10.19","mn100:10.20","mn100:10.21","mn100:10.22","mn100:10.23","mn100:10.24","mn100:10.25","mn100:10.26"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Atha khvāhaṁ, bhāradvāja, yena āḷāro kālāmo tenupasaṅkamiṁ; upasaṅkamitvā āḷāraṁ kālāmaṁ etadavocaṁ:\n‘kittāvatā no, āvuso kālāma, imaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharāmīti pavedesī’ti?\nEvaṁ vutte, bhāradvāja, āḷāro kālāmo ākiñcaññāyatanaṁ pavedesi.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘na kho āḷārasseva kālāmassa atthi saddhā, mayhampatthi saddhā;\nna kho āḷārasseva kālāmassa atthi vīriyaṁ …pe…\nsati …\nsamādhi …\npaññā, mayhampatthi paññā.\nYannūnāhaṁ yaṁ dhammaṁ āḷāro kālāmo sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharāmīti pavedeti tassa dhammassa sacchikiriyāya padaheyyan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, nacirasseva khippameva taṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja vihāsiṁ.\nAtha khvāhaṁ, bhāradvāja, yena āḷāro kālāmo tenupasaṅkamiṁ; upasaṅkamitvā āḷāraṁ kālāmaṁ etadavocaṁ:\n‘ettāvatā no, āvuso kālāma, imaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja pavedesī’ti?\n‘Ettāvatā kho ahaṁ, āvuso, imaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja pavedemī’ti.\n‘Ahampi kho, āvuso, ettāvatā imaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharāmī’ti.\n‘Lābhā no, āvuso, suladdhaṁ no, āvuso,\nye mayaṁ āyasmantaṁ tādisaṁ sabrahmacāriṁ passāma.\nIti yāhaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja pavedemi taṁ tvaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharasi;\nyaṁ tvaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharasi tamahaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja pavedemi.\nIti yāhaṁ dhammaṁ jānāmi taṁ tvaṁ dhammaṁ jānāsi, yaṁ tvaṁ dhammaṁ jānāsi tamahaṁ dhammaṁ jānāmi.\nIti yādiso ahaṁ tādiso tuvaṁ, yādiso tuvaṁ tādiso ahaṁ.\nEhi dāni, āvuso, ubhova santā imaṁ gaṇaṁ pariharāmā’ti.\nIti kho, bhāradvāja, āḷāro kālāmo ācariyo me samāno attano antevāsiṁ maṁ samānaṁ attanā samasamaṁ ṭhapesi, uḷārāya ca maṁ pūjāya pūjesi.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘nāyaṁ dhammo nibbidāya na virāgāya na nirodhāya na upasamāya na abhiññāya na sambodhāya na nibbānāya saṁvattati, yāvadeva ākiñcaññāyatanūpapattiyā’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, taṁ dhammaṁ analaṅkaritvā tasmā dhammā nibbijja apakkamiṁ.","en":"So I approached Āḷāra Kālāma and said to him:\n‘Reverend Kālāma, to what extent do you say you’ve realized this teaching with your own insight?’\nWhen I said this, he declared the dimension of nothingness.\nThen it occurred to me,\n‘It’s not just Āḷāra Kālāma who has faith,\nenergy,\nmindfulness,\nimmersion,\nand wisdom; I too have these things.\nWhy don’t I make an effort to realize the same teaching that Āḷāra Kālāma says he has realized with his own insight?’\nI quickly realized that teaching with my own insight, and lived having achieved it.\nSo I approached Āḷāra Kālāma and said to him,\n‘Reverend Kālāma, is it up to this point that you realized this teaching with your own insight, and declare having achieved it?’\n‘I have, reverend.’\n‘I too have realized this teaching with my own insight up to this point, and live having achieved it.’\n‘We are fortunate, reverend, so very fortunate\nto see a venerable such as yourself as one of our spiritual companions!\nSo the teaching that I’ve realized with my own insight, and declare having achieved it, you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it.\nThe teaching that you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it, I’ve realized with my own insight, and declare having achieved it.\nSo the teaching that I know, you know, and the teaching you know, I know.\nI am like you and you are like me.\nCome now, reverend! We should both lead this community together.’\nAnd that is how my tutor Āḷāra Kālāma placed me, his pupil, on the same position as him, and honored me with high praise.\nThen it occurred to me,\n‘This teaching doesn’t lead to disillusionment, dispassion, cessation, peace, insight, awakening, and extinguishment. It only leads as far as rebirth in the dimension of nothingness.’\nRealizing that this teaching was inadequate, I left disappointed."}},{"id":"mn100:11","sourceIds":["mn100:11.1","mn100:11.2","mn100:11.3","mn100:11.4","mn100:11.5","mn100:11.6","mn100:11.7","mn100:11.8","mn100:11.9","mn100:11.10","mn100:11.11","mn100:11.12","mn100:11.13","mn100:11.14","mn100:11.15","mn100:11.16","mn100:11.17","mn100:11.18","mn100:11.19","mn100:11.20","mn100:11.21"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, kiṅkusalagavesī anuttaraṁ santivarapadaṁ pariyesamāno yena udako rāmaputto tenupasaṅkamiṁ; upasaṅkamitvā udakaṁ rāmaputtaṁ etadavocaṁ:\n‘icchāmahaṁ, āvuso, imasmiṁ dhammavinaye brahmacariyaṁ caritun’ti.\nEvaṁ vutte, bhāradvāja, udako rāmaputto maṁ etadavoca:\n‘viharatāyasmā.\nTādiso ayaṁ dhammo yattha viññū puriso nacirasseva sakaṁ ācariyakaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja vihareyyā’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, nacirasseva khippameva taṁ dhammaṁ pariyāpuṇiṁ.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, tāvatakeneva oṭṭhapahatamattena lapitalāpanamattena ‘ñāṇavādañca vadāmi, theravādañca jānāmi, passāmī’ti ca paṭijānāmi, ahañceva aññe ca.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘na kho rāmo imaṁ dhammaṁ kevalaṁ saddhāmattakena sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharāmīti pavedesi;\naddhā rāmo imaṁ dhammaṁ jānaṁ passaṁ vihāsī’ti.\nAtha khvāhaṁ, bhāradvāja, yena udako rāmaputto tenupasaṅkamiṁ; upasaṅkamitvā udakaṁ rāmaputtaṁ etadavocaṁ:\n‘kittāvatā no, āvuso, rāmo imaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharāmīti pavedesī’ti?\nEvaṁ vutte, bhāradvāja, udako rāmaputto nevasaññānāsaññāyatanaṁ pavedesi.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘na kho rāmasseva ahosi saddhā, mayhampatthi saddhā;\nna kho rāmasseva ahosi vīriyaṁ …pe…\nsati …\nsamādhi …\npaññā, mayhampatthi paññā.\nYannūnāhaṁ yaṁ dhammaṁ rāmo sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharāmīti pavedesi tassa dhammassa sacchikiriyāya padaheyyan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, nacirasseva khippameva taṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja vihāsiṁ.","en":"I set out to discover what is skillful, seeking the supreme state of sublime peace. I approached Uddaka son of Rāma and said to him,\n‘Reverend, I wish to lead the spiritual life in this teaching and training.’\nUddaka replied,\n‘Stay, venerable.\nThis teaching is such that a sensible person can soon realize their own denomination with their own insight and live having achieved it.’\nI quickly memorized that teaching.\nAs far as lip-recital and verbal repetition went, I spoke the doctrine of knowledge, the elder doctrine. I claimed to know and see, and so did others.\nThen it occurred to me,\n‘It is not solely by mere faith that Rāma declared: “I realize this teaching with my own insight, and live having achieved it.”\nSurely he meditated knowing and seeing this teaching.’\nSo I approached Uddaka son of Rāma and said to him,\n‘Reverend, to what extent did Rāma say he’d realized this teaching with his own insight?’\nWhen I said this, Uddaka son of Rāma declared the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.\nThen it occurred to me,\n‘It’s not just Rāma who had faith,\nenergy,\nmindfulness,\nimmersion,\nand wisdom; I too have these things.\nWhy don’t I make an effort to realize the same teaching that Rāma said he had realized with his own insight?’\nI quickly realized that teaching with my own insight, and lived having achieved it."}},{"id":"mn100:12","sourceIds":["mn100:12.1","mn100:12.2","mn100:12.3","mn100:12.4","mn100:12.5","mn100:12.6","mn100:12.7","mn100:12.8","mn100:12.9","mn100:12.10","mn100:12.11","mn100:12.12","mn100:12.13","mn100:12.14","mn100:12.15"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Atha khvāhaṁ, bhāradvāja, yena udako rāmaputto tenupasaṅkamiṁ; upasaṅkamitvā udakaṁ rāmaputtaṁ etadavocaṁ:\n‘ettāvatā no, āvuso, rāmo imaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja pavedesī’ti?\n‘Ettāvatā kho, āvuso, rāmo imaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja pavedesī’ti.\n‘Ahampi kho, āvuso, ettāvatā imaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharāmī’ti.\n‘Lābhā no, āvuso, suladdhaṁ no, āvuso,\nye mayaṁ āyasmantaṁ tādisaṁ sabrahmacāriṁ passāma.\nIti yaṁ dhammaṁ rāmo sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja pavedesi taṁ tvaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharasi;\nyaṁ tvaṁ dhammaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharasi taṁ dhammaṁ rāmo sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja pavedesi.\nIti yaṁ dhammaṁ rāmo abhiññāsi taṁ tvaṁ dhammaṁ jānāsi, yaṁ tvaṁ dhammaṁ jānāsi taṁ dhammaṁ rāmo abhiññāsi.\nIti yādiso rāmo ahosi tādiso tuvaṁ, yādiso tuvaṁ tādiso rāmo ahosi.\nEhi dāni, āvuso, tuvaṁ imaṁ gaṇaṁ pariharā’ti.\nIti kho, bhāradvāja, udako rāmaputto sabrahmacārī me samāno ācariyaṭṭhāne maṁ ṭhapesi, uḷārāya ca maṁ pūjāya pūjesi.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘nāyaṁ dhammo nibbidāya na virāgāya na nirodhāya na upasamāya na abhiññāya na sambodhāya na nibbānāya saṁvattati, yāvadeva nevasaññānāsaññāyatanūpapattiyā’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, taṁ dhammaṁ analaṅkaritvā tasmā dhammā nibbijja apakkamiṁ.","en":"So I approached Uddaka son of Rāma and said to him,\n‘Reverend, had Rāma realized this teaching with his own insight up to this point, and declared having achieved it?’\n‘He had, reverend.’\n‘I too have realized this teaching with my own insight up to this point, and live having achieved it.’\n‘We are fortunate, reverend, so very fortunate\nto see a venerable such as yourself as one of our spiritual companions!\nSo the teaching that Rāma had realized with his own insight, and declared having achieved it, you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it.\nThe teaching that you’ve realized with your own insight, and dwell having achieved it, Rāma had realized with his own insight, and declared having achieved it.\nSo the teaching that Rāma directly knew, you know, and the teaching you know, Rāma directly knew.\nRāma was like you and you are like Rāma.\nCome now, reverend! You should lead this community.’\nAnd that is how my spiritual companion Uddaka son of Rāma placed me in the position of a tutor and honored me with high praise.\nThen it occurred to me,\n‘This teaching doesn’t lead to disillusionment, dispassion, cessation, peace, insight, awakening, and extinguishment. It only leads as far as rebirth in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.’\nRealizing that this teaching was inadequate, I left disappointed."}},{"id":"mn100:13","sourceIds":["mn100:13.1","mn100:13.2","mn100:13.3","mn100:13.4","mn100:13.5","mn100:13.6","mn100:13.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, kiṅkusalagavesī anuttaraṁ santivarapadaṁ pariyesamāno magadhesu anupubbena cārikaṁ caramāno yena uruvelā senānigamo tadavasariṁ.\nTatthaddasaṁ ramaṇīyaṁ bhūmibhāgaṁ, pāsādikañca vanasaṇḍaṁ, nadiñca sandantiṁ setakaṁ supatitthaṁ ramaṇīyaṁ, samantā ca gocaragāmaṁ.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘ramaṇīyo vata bho bhūmibhāgo, pāsādiko ca vanasaṇḍo, nadī ca sandati setakā supatitthā ramaṇīyā, samantā ca gocaragāmo.\nAlaṁ vatidaṁ kulaputtassa padhānatthikassa padhānāyā’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, tattheva nisīdiṁ:\n‘alamidaṁ padhānāyā’ti.","en":"I set out to discover what is skillful, seeking the supreme state of sublime peace. Traveling stage by stage in the Magadhan lands, I arrived at the town of Senā in Uruvelā.\nThere I saw a delightful park, a lovely grove with a flowing river that was clean and charming, with smooth banks. And nearby was a village to resort to for alms.\nThen it occurred to me,\n‘This park is truly delightful, a lovely grove with a flowing river that’s clean and charming, with smooth banks. And nearby there’s a village to resort to for alms.\nThis is good enough for striving for a gentleman wanting to strive.’\nSo I sat down right there, thinking:\n‘This is good enough for striving.’"}},{"id":"mn100:14","sourceIds":["mn100:14.1","mn100:14.2","mn100:14.3","mn100:14.4","mn100:14.5","mn100:14.6","mn100:14.7","mn100:14.8","mn100:14.9","mn100:14.10","mn100:14.11","mn100:14.12"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Apissu maṁ, bhāradvāja, tisso upamā paṭibhaṁsu anacchariyā pubbe assutapubbā.\nSeyyathāpi, bhāradvāja, allaṁ kaṭṭhaṁ sasnehaṁ udake nikkhittaṁ.\nAtha puriso āgaccheyya uttarāraṇiṁ ādāya:\n‘aggiṁ abhinibbattessāmi, tejo pātukarissāmī’ti.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, bhāradvāja,\napi nu so puriso amuṁ allaṁ kaṭṭhaṁ sasnehaṁ udake nikkhittaṁ uttarāraṇiṁ ādāya abhimanthento aggiṁ abhinibbatteyya, tejo pātukareyyā”ti?\n“No hidaṁ, bho gotama.\nTaṁ kissa hetu?\nAduñhi, bho gotama, allaṁ kaṭṭhaṁ sasnehaṁ, tañca pana udake nikkhittaṁ;\nyāvadeva ca pana so puriso kilamathassa vighātassa bhāgī assā”ti.\n“Evameva kho, bhāradvāja, ye hi keci samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā kāyena ceva cittena ca kāmehi avūpakaṭṭhā viharanti, yo ca nesaṁ kāmesu kāmacchando kāmasneho kāmamucchā kāmapipāsā kāmapariḷāho so ca ajjhattaṁ na suppahīno hoti na suppaṭippassaddho, opakkamikā cepi te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā dukkhā tibbā kharā kaṭukā vedanā vedayanti, abhabbāva te ñāṇāya dassanāya anuttarāya sambodhāya. No cepi te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā opakkamikā dukkhā tibbā kharā kaṭukā vedanā vedayanti abhabbāva te ñāṇāya dassanāya anuttarāya sambodhāya.\nAyaṁ kho maṁ, bhāradvāja, paṭhamā upamā paṭibhāsi anacchariyā pubbe assutapubbā.","en":"And then these three similes, which were neither supernaturally inspired, nor learned before in the past, occurred to me.\nSuppose there was a green, sappy log, and it was lying in water.\nThen a person comes along with a drill-stick, thinking\nto light a fire and produce heat.\nWhat do you think, Bhāradvāja?\nBy drilling the stick against that green, sappy log lying in water, could they light a fire and produce heat?”\n“No, worthy Gotama.\nWhy is that?\nBecause it’s a green, sappy log, and it’s lying in the water.\nThat person will eventually get weary and frustrated.”\n“In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t live withdrawn in body and mind from sensual pleasures. They haven’t internally given up or stilled desire, affection, infatuation, thirst, and passion for sensual pleasures. Regardless of whether or not they suffer painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings due to exertion, they are incapable of knowledge and vision, of supreme awakening.\nThis was the first example that occurred to me."}},{"id":"mn100:15","sourceIds":["mn100:15.1","mn100:15.2","mn100:15.3","mn100:15.4","mn100:15.5","mn100:15.6","mn100:15.7","mn100:15.8","mn100:15.9","mn100:15.10","mn100:15.11"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Aparāpi kho maṁ, bhāradvāja, dutiyā upamā paṭibhāsi anacchariyā pubbe assutapubbā.\nSeyyathāpi, bhāradvāja, allaṁ kaṭṭhaṁ sasnehaṁ ārakā udakā thale nikkhittaṁ.\nAtha puriso āgaccheyya uttarāraṇiṁ ādāya:\n‘aggiṁ abhinibbattessāmi, tejo pātukarissāmī’ti.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, bhāradvāja,\napi nu so puriso amuṁ allaṁ kaṭṭhaṁ sasnehaṁ ārakā udakā thale nikkhittaṁ uttarāraṇiṁ ādāya abhimanthento aggiṁ abhinibbatteyya tejo pātukareyyā”ti?\n“No hidaṁ, bho gotama.\nTaṁ kissa hetu?\nAduñhi, bho gotama, allaṁ kaṭṭhaṁ sasnehaṁ, kiñcāpi ārakā udakā thale nikkhittaṁ;\nyāvadeva ca pana so puriso kilamathassa vighātassa bhāgī assā”ti. “Evameva kho, bhāradvāja, ye hi keci samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā kāyena ceva cittena ca kāmehi vūpakaṭṭhā viharanti, yo ca nesaṁ kāmesu kāmacchando kāmasneho kāmamucchā kāmapipāsā kāmapariḷāho so ca ajjhattaṁ na suppahīno hoti na suppaṭippassaddho, opakkamikā cepi te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā dukkhā tibbā kharā kaṭukā vedanā vedayanti, abhabbāva te ñāṇāya dassanāya anuttarāya sambodhāya. No cepi te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā opakkamikā dukkhā tibbā kharā kaṭukā vedanā vedayanti, abhabbāva te ñāṇāya dassanāya anuttarāya sambodhāya.\nAyaṁ kho maṁ, bhāradvāja, dutiyā upamā paṭibhāsi anacchariyā pubbe assutapubbā.","en":"Then a second example occurred to me.\nSuppose there was a green, sappy log, and it was lying on dry land far from the water.\nThen a person comes along with a drill-stick, thinking\nto light a fire and produce heat.\nWhat do you think, Bhāradvāja?\nBy drilling the stick against that green, sappy log on dry land far from water, could they light a fire and produce heat?”\n“No, worthy Gotama.\nWhy is that?\nBecause it’s still a green, sappy log, despite the fact that it’s lying on dry land far from water.\nThat person will eventually get weary and frustrated.” “In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who live withdrawn in body and mind from sensual pleasures. But they haven’t internally given up or stilled desire, affection, infatuation, thirst, and passion for sensual pleasures. Regardless of whether or not they suffer painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings due to exertion, they are incapable of knowledge and vision, of supreme awakening.\nThis was the second example that occurred to me."}},{"id":"mn100:16","sourceIds":["mn100:16.1","mn100:16.2","mn100:16.3","mn100:16.4","mn100:16.5","mn100:16.6","mn100:16.7","mn100:16.8","mn100:16.9","mn100:16.10","mn100:16.11","mn100:16.12"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Aparāpi kho maṁ, bhāradvāja, tatiyā upamā paṭibhāsi anacchariyā pubbe assutapubbā.\nSeyyathāpi, bhāradvāja, sukkhaṁ kaṭṭhaṁ koḷāpaṁ ārakā udakā thale nikkhittaṁ.\nAtha puriso āgaccheyya uttarāraṇiṁ ādāya:\n‘aggiṁ abhinibbattessāmi, tejo pātukarissāmī’ti.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, bhāradvāja,\napi nu so puriso amuṁ sukkhaṁ kaṭṭhaṁ koḷāpaṁ ārakā udakā thale nikkhittaṁ uttarāraṇiṁ ādāya abhimanthento aggiṁ abhinibbatteyya, tejo pātukareyyā”ti?\n“Evaṁ, bho gotama.\nTaṁ kissa hetu?\nAduñhi, bho gotama, sukkhaṁ kaṭṭhaṁ koḷāpaṁ, tañca pana ārakā udakā thale nikkhittan”ti.\n“Evameva kho, bhāradvāja, ye hi keci samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā kāyena ceva cittena ca kāmehi vūpakaṭṭhā viharanti, yo ca nesaṁ kāmesu kāmacchando kāmasneho kāmamucchā kāmapipāsā kāmapariḷāho so ca ajjhattaṁ suppahīno hoti suppaṭippassaddho, opakkamikā cepi te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā dukkhā tibbā kharā kaṭukā vedanā vedayanti, bhabbāva te ñāṇāya dassanāya anuttarāya sambodhāya. No cepi te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā opakkamikā dukkhā tibbā kharā kaṭukā vedanā vedayanti, bhabbāva te ñāṇāya dassanāya anuttarāya sambodhāya.\nAyaṁ kho maṁ, bhāradvāja, tatiyā upamā paṭibhāsi anacchariyā pubbe assutapubbā.\nImā kho maṁ, bhāradvāja, tisso upamā paṭibhaṁsu anacchariyā pubbe assutapubbā.","en":"Then a third example occurred to me.\nSuppose there was a dried up, withered log, and it was lying on dry land far from the water.\nThen a person comes along with a drill-stick, thinking\nto light a fire and produce heat.\nWhat do you think, Bhāradvāja?\nBy drilling the stick against that dried up, withered log on dry land far from water, could they light a fire and produce heat?”\n“Yes, worthy Gotama.\nWhy is that?\nBecause it’s a dried up, withered log, and it’s lying on dry land far from water.”\n“In the same way, there are ascetics and brahmins who live withdrawn in body and mind from sensual pleasures. And they have internally given up and stilled desire, affection, infatuation, thirst, and passion for sensual pleasures. Regardless of whether or not they suffer painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings due to exertion, they are capable of knowledge and vision, of supreme awakening.\nThis was the third example that occurred to me.\nThese are the three similes, which were neither supernaturally inspired, nor learned before in the past, that occurred to me."}},{"id":"mn100:17","sourceIds":["mn100:17.1","mn100:17.2","mn100:17.3","mn100:17.4","mn100:17.5","mn100:17.6","mn100:17.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘yannūnāhaṁ dantebhidantamādhāya, jivhāya tāluṁ āhacca, cetasā cittaṁ abhiniggaṇheyyaṁ abhinippīḷeyyaṁ abhisantāpeyyan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, dantebhidantamādhāya, jivhāya tāluṁ āhacca, cetasā cittaṁ abhiniggaṇhāmi abhinippīḷemi abhisantāpemi.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, dantebhidantamādhāya, jivhāya tāluṁ āhacca, cetasā cittaṁ abhiniggaṇhato abhinippīḷayato abhisantāpayato kacchehi sedā muccanti.\nSeyyathāpi, bhāradvāja, balavā puriso dubbalataraṁ purisaṁ sīse vā gahetvā khandhe vā gahetvā abhiniggaṇheyya abhinippīḷeyya abhisantāpeyya;\nevameva kho me, bhāradvāja, dantebhidantamādhāya, jivhāya tāluṁ āhacca, cetasā cittaṁ abhiniggaṇhato abhinippīḷayato abhisantāpayato kacchehi sedā muccanti.\nĀraddhaṁ kho pana me, bhāradvāja, vīriyaṁ hoti asallīnaṁ, upaṭṭhitā sati asammuṭṭhā; sāraddho ca pana me kāyo hoti appaṭippassaddho, teneva dukkhappadhānena padhānābhitunnassa sato.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Why don’t I, with teeth clenched and tongue pressed against the roof of my mouth, squeeze, squash, and scorch mind with mind?’\nSo that’s what I did,\nuntil sweat ran from my armpits.\nIt was like when a strong man grabs a weaker man by the head or throat or shoulder and squeezes, squashes, and crushes them.\nIn the same way, with teeth clenched and tongue pressed against the roof of my mouth, I squeezed, squashed, and crushed mind with mind until sweat ran from my armpits.\nMy energy was roused up and unflagging, and my mindfulness was established and lucid, but my body was disturbed, not tranquil, because I’d pushed too hard with that painful striving."}},{"id":"mn100:18","sourceIds":["mn100:18.1","mn100:18.2","mn100:18.3","mn100:18.4","mn100:18.5","mn100:18.6","mn100:18.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘yannūnāhaṁ appāṇakaṁyeva jhānaṁ jhāyeyyan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca assāsapassāse uparundhiṁ.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu kaṇṇasotehi vātānaṁ nikkhamantānaṁ adhimatto saddo hoti.\nSeyyathāpi nāma kammāragaggariyā dhamamānāya adhimatto saddo hoti;\nevameva kho me, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu kaṇṇasotehi vātānaṁ nikkhamantānaṁ adhimatto saddo hoti.\nĀraddhaṁ kho pana me, bhāradvāja, vīriyaṁ hoti asallīnaṁ, upaṭṭhitā sati asammuṭṭhā; sāraddho ca pana me kāyo hoti appaṭippassaddho, teneva dukkhappadhānena padhānābhitunnassa sato.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Why don’t I practice the breathless absorption?’\nSo I cut off my breathing through my mouth and nose.\nBut then winds came out my ears making a severe noise,\nlike the puffing of a blacksmith’s bellows.\nMy energy was roused up and unflagging, and my mindfulness was established and lucid, but my body was disturbed, not tranquil, because I’d pushed too hard with that painful striving."}},{"id":"mn100:19","sourceIds":["mn100:19.1","mn100:19.2","mn100:19.3","mn100:19.4","mn100:19.5","mn100:19.6","mn100:19.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘yannūnāhaṁ appāṇakaṁyeva jhānaṁ jhāyeyyan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāse uparundhiṁ.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu adhimattā vātā muddhani ūhananti.\nSeyyathāpi, bhāradvāja, balavā puriso, tiṇhena sikharena muddhani abhimattheyya;\nevameva kho me, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu adhimattā vātā muddhani ūhananti.\nĀraddhaṁ kho pana me, bhāradvāja, vīriyaṁ hoti asallīnaṁ, upaṭṭhitā sati asammuṭṭhā; sāraddho ca pana me kāyo hoti appaṭippassaddho, teneva dukkhappadhānena padhānābhitunnassa sato.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Why don’t I keep practicing the breathless absorption?’\nSo I cut off my breathing through my mouth and nose and ears.\nBut then severe winds ground my head,\nlike a strong man was drilling into my head with a sharp point.\nMy energy was roused up and unflagging, and my mindfulness was established and lucid, but my body was disturbed, not tranquil, because I’d pushed too hard with that painful striving."}},{"id":"mn100:20","sourceIds":["mn100:20.1","mn100:20.2","mn100:20.3","mn100:20.4","mn100:20.5","mn100:20.6","mn100:20.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘yannūnāhaṁ appāṇakaṁyeva jhānaṁ jhāyeyyan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāse uparundhiṁ.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu adhimattā sīse sīsavedanā honti.\nSeyyathāpi, bhāradvāja, balavā puriso daḷhena varattakkhaṇḍena sīse sīsaveṭhaṁ dadeyya;\nevameva kho, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu adhimattā sīse sīsavedanā honti.\nĀraddhaṁ kho pana me, bhāradvāja, vīriyaṁ hoti asallīnaṁ, upaṭṭhitā sati asammuṭṭhā; sāraddho ca pana me kāyo hoti appaṭippassaddho, teneva dukkhappadhānena padhānābhitunnassa sato.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Why don’t I keep practicing the breathless absorption?’\nSo I cut off my breathing through my mouth and nose and ears.\nBut then I got a severe headache,\nlike a strong man was tightening a strong leather strap around my head.\nMy energy was roused up and unflagging, and my mindfulness was established and lucid, but my body was disturbed, not tranquil, because I’d pushed too hard with that painful striving."}},{"id":"mn100:21","sourceIds":["mn100:21.1","mn100:21.2","mn100:21.3","mn100:21.4","mn100:21.5","mn100:21.6","mn100:21.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘yannūnāhaṁ appāṇakaṁyeva jhānaṁ jhāyeyyan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāse uparundhiṁ.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu adhimattā vātā kucchiṁ parikantanti.\nSeyyathāpi, bhāradvāja, dakkho goghātako vā goghātakantevāsī vā tiṇhena govikantanena kucchiṁ parikanteyya;\nevameva kho me, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu adhimattā vātā kucchiṁ parikantanti.\nĀraddhaṁ kho pana me, bhāradvāja, vīriyaṁ hoti asallīnaṁ upaṭṭhitā sati asammuṭṭhā; sāraddho ca pana me kāyo hoti appaṭippassaddho, teneva dukkhappadhānena padhānābhitunnassa sato.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Why don’t I keep practicing the breathless absorption?’\nSo I cut off my breathing through my mouth and nose and ears.\nBut then severe winds carved up my belly,\nlike a deft butcher or their apprentice was slicing my belly open with a sharp meat cleaver.\nMy energy was roused up and unflagging, and my mindfulness was established and lucid, but my body was disturbed, not tranquil, because I’d pushed too hard with that painful striving."}},{"id":"mn100:22","sourceIds":["mn100:22.1","mn100:22.2","mn100:22.3","mn100:22.4","mn100:22.5","mn100:22.6","mn100:22.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘yannūnāhaṁ appāṇakaṁyeva jhānaṁ jhāyeyyan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāse uparundhiṁ.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu adhimatto kāyasmiṁ ḍāho hoti.\nSeyyathāpi, bhāradvāja, dve balavanto purisā dubbalataraṁ purisaṁ nānābāhāsu gahetvā aṅgārakāsuyā santāpeyyuṁ samparitāpeyyuṁ;\nevameva kho me, bhāradvāja, mukhato ca nāsato ca kaṇṇato ca assāsapassāsesu uparuddhesu adhimatto kāyasmiṁ ḍāho hoti.\nĀraddhaṁ kho pana me, bhāradvāja, vīriyaṁ hoti asallīnaṁ, upaṭṭhitā sati asammuṭṭhā, sāraddho ca pana me kāyo hoti appaṭippassaddho, teneva dukkhappadhānena padhānābhitunnassa sato.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Why don’t I keep practicing the breathless absorption?’\nSo I cut off my breathing through my mouth and nose and ears.\nBut then there was a severe burning in my body,\nlike two strong men grabbing a weaker man by the arms to burn and scorch him on a pit of glowing coals.\nMy energy was roused up and unflagging, and my mindfulness was established and lucid, but my body was disturbed, not tranquil, because I’d pushed too hard with that painful striving."}},{"id":"mn100:23","sourceIds":["mn100:23.1","mn100:23.2","mn100:23.3","mn100:23.4","mn100:23.5","mn100:23.6","mn100:23.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Apissu maṁ, bhāradvāja, devatā disvā evamāhaṁsu:\n‘kālaṅkato samaṇo gotamo’ti.\nEkaccā devatā evamāhaṁsu:\n‘na kālaṅkato samaṇo gotamo, api ca kālaṁ karotī’ti.\nEkaccā devatā evamāhaṁsu:\n‘na kālaṅkato samaṇo gotamo, nāpi kālaṁ karoti;\narahaṁ samaṇo gotamo, vihāro tveva so arahato evarūpo hotī’ti.","en":"Then some deities saw me and said,\n‘The ascetic Gotama is dead.’\nOthers said,\n‘He’s not dead, but he’s dying.’\nOthers said,\n‘He’s not dead or dying. The ascetic Gotama is a perfected one, for that is how the perfected ones live.’"}},{"id":"mn100:24","sourceIds":["mn100:24.1","mn100:24.2","mn100:24.3","mn100:24.4","mn100:24.5","mn100:24.6","mn100:24.7","mn100:24.8","mn100:24.9","mn100:24.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘yannūnāhaṁ sabbaso āhārupacchedāya paṭipajjeyyan’ti.\nAtha kho maṁ, bhāradvāja, devatā upasaṅkamitvā etadavocuṁ:\n‘mā kho tvaṁ, mārisa, sabbaso āhārupacchedāya paṭipajji.\nSace kho tvaṁ, mārisa, sabbaso āhārupacchedāya paṭipajjissasi, tassa te mayaṁ dibbaṁ ojaṁ lomakūpehi ajjhohāressāma.\nTāya tvaṁ yāpessasī’ti.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘ahañceva kho pana sabbaso ajajjitaṁ paṭijāneyyaṁ, imā ca me devatā dibbaṁ ojaṁ lomakūpehi ajjhohāreyyuṁ, tāya cāhaṁ yāpeyyaṁ.\nTaṁ mamassa musā’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, tā devatā paccācikkhāmi, ‘halan’ti vadāmi.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Why don’t I practice completely cutting off food?’\nBut deities came to me and said,\n‘Good fellow, don’t practice totally cutting off food.\nIf you do, we’ll infuse heavenly nectar into your pores and you will live on that.’\nThen it occurred to me,\n‘If I claim to be completely fasting while these deities are infusing heavenly nectar in my pores, that would be a lie on my part.’\nSo I refused those deities, saying, ‘There’s no need.’"}},{"id":"mn100:25","sourceIds":["mn100:25.1","mn100:25.2","mn100:25.3","mn100:25.4","mn100:25.5","mn100:25.6","mn100:25.7","mn100:25.8","mn100:25.9","mn100:25.10","mn100:25.11","mn100:25.12","mn100:25.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘yannūnāhaṁ thokaṁ thokaṁ āhāraṁ āhāreyyaṁ pasataṁ pasataṁ, yadi vā muggayūsaṁ, yadi vā kulatthayūsaṁ, yadi vā kaḷāyayūsaṁ, yadi vā hareṇukayūsan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, thokaṁ thokaṁ āhāraṁ āhāresiṁ pasataṁ pasataṁ, yadi vā muggayūsaṁ, yadi vā kulatthayūsaṁ, yadi vā kaḷāyayūsaṁ, yadi vā hareṇukayūsaṁ.\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, thokaṁ thokaṁ āhāraṁ āhārayato pasataṁ pasataṁ, yadi vā muggayūsaṁ, yadi vā kulatthayūsaṁ, yadi vā kaḷāyayūsaṁ, yadi vā hareṇukayūsaṁ, adhimattakasimānaṁ patto kāyo hoti.\nSeyyathāpi nāma āsītikapabbāni vā kāḷapabbāni vā; evamevassu me aṅgapaccaṅgāni bhavanti tāyevappāhāratāya.\nSeyyathāpi nāma oṭṭhapadaṁ; evamevassu me ānisadaṁ hoti tāyevappāhāratāya;\nseyyathāpi nāma vaṭṭanāvaḷī; evamevassu me piṭṭhikaṇṭako uṇṇatāvanato hoti tāyevappāhāratāya.\nSeyyathāpi nāma jarasālāya gopānasiyo oluggaviluggā bhavanti; evamevassu me phāsuḷiyo oluggaviluggā bhavanti tāyevappāhāratāya.\nSeyyathāpi nāma gambhīre udapāne udakatārakā gambhīragatā okkhāyikā dissanti; evamevassu me akkhikūpesu akkhitārakā gambhīragatā okkhāyikā dissanti tāyevappāhāratāya.\nSeyyathāpi nāma tittakālābu āmakacchinno vātātapena samphuṭito hoti sammilāto; evamevassu me sīsacchavi samphuṭitā hoti sammilātā tāyevappāhāratāya.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, ‘udaracchaviṁ parimasissāmī’ti piṭṭhikaṇṭakaṁyeva pariggaṇhāmi, ‘piṭṭhikaṇṭakaṁ parimasissāmī’ti udaracchaviṁyeva pariggaṇhāmi; yāvassu me, bhāradvāja, udaracchavi piṭṭhikaṇṭakaṁ allīnā hoti tāyevappāhāratāya.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, ‘vaccaṁ vā muttaṁ vā karissāmī’ti tattheva avakujjo papatāmi tāyevappāhāratāya.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, imameva kāyaṁ assāsento pāṇinā gattāni anumajjāmi. Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, pāṇinā gattāni anumajjato pūtimūlāni lomāni kāyasmā papatanti tāyevappāhāratāya.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Why don’t I just take a little bit of food each time, a handful of broth made from mung beans, horse gram, chickpeas, or green gram?’\nSo that’s what I did,\nuntil my body became severely emaciated.\nDue to eating so little, my major and minor limbs became like the joints of an eighty-year-old or a dying man,\nmy bottom became like a camel’s hoof,\nmy vertebrae stuck out like beads on a string,\nand my ribs were as gaunt as the broken-down rafters on an old barn.\nDue to eating so little, the gleam of my eyes sank deep in their sockets, like the gleam of water sunk deep down a well.\nDue to eating so little, my scalp shriveled and withered like a green bitter-gourd in the wind and sun.\nDue to eating so little, the skin of my belly stuck to my backbone, so that when I tried to rub the skin of my belly I grabbed my backbone, and when I tried to rub my backbone I rubbed the skin of my belly.\nDue to eating so little, when I tried to urinate or defecate I fell face down right there.\nDue to eating so little, when I tried to relieve my body by rubbing my limbs with my hands, the hair, rotted at its roots, fell out."}},{"id":"mn100:26","sourceIds":["mn100:26.1","mn100:26.2","mn100:26.3","mn100:26.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Apissu maṁ, bhāradvāja, manussā disvā evamāhaṁsu: ‘kāḷo samaṇo gotamo’ti.\nEkacce manussā evamāhaṁsu: ‘na kāḷo samaṇo gotamo, sāmo samaṇo gotamo’ti.\nEkacce manussā evamāhaṁsu: ‘na kāḷo samaṇo gotamo napi sāmo, maṅguracchavi samaṇo gotamo’ti;\nyāvassu me, bhāradvāja, tāva parisuddho chavivaṇṇo pariyodāto upahato hoti tāyevappāhāratāya.","en":"Then some people saw me and said: ‘The ascetic Gotama is black.’\nSome said: ‘He’s not black, he’s brown.’\nSome said: ‘He’s neither black nor brown. The ascetic Gotama has dingy skin.’\nThat’s how far the pure, bright complexion of my skin had been ruined by taking so little food."}},{"id":"mn100:27","sourceIds":["mn100:27.1","mn100:27.2","mn100:27.3","mn100:27.4","mn100:27.5","mn100:27.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘ye kho keci atītamaddhānaṁ samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā opakkamikā dukkhā tibbā kharā kaṭukā vedanā vedayiṁsu, etāvaparamaṁ, nayito bhiyyo;\nyepi hi keci anāgatamaddhānaṁ samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā opakkamikā dukkhā tibbā kharā kaṭukā vedanā vedayissanti, etāvaparamaṁ, nayito bhiyyo;\nyepi hi keci etarahi samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā opakkamikā dukkhā tibbā kharā kaṭukā vedanā vedayanti, etāvaparamaṁ, nayito bhiyyo.\nNa kho panāhaṁ imāya kaṭukāya dukkarakārikāya adhigacchāmi uttari manussadhammā alamariyañāṇadassanavisesaṁ.\nSiyā nu kho añño maggo bodhāyā’ti?","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Whatever ascetics and brahmins have experienced painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings due to exertion—whether in the past, future, or present—this is as far as it goes, no-one has done more than this.\nBut I have not achieved any superhuman distinction in knowledge and vision worthy of the noble ones by this severe, grueling work.\nCould there be another path to awakening?’"}},{"id":"mn100:28","sourceIds":["mn100:28.1","mn100:28.2","mn100:28.3","mn100:28.4","mn100:28.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘abhijānāmi kho panāhaṁ pitu sakkassa kammante sītāya jambucchāyāya nisinno vivicceva kāmehi vivicca akusalehi dhammehi savitakkaṁ savicāraṁ vivekajaṁ pītisukhaṁ paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharitā.\nSiyā nu kho eso maggo bodhāyā’ti?\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, satānusāri viññāṇaṁ ahosi:\n‘eseva maggo bodhāyā’ti.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘I recall sitting in the cool shade of a black plum tree while my father the Sakyan was off working. Quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, I entered and remained in the first absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of seclusion, while placing the mind and keeping it connected.\nCould that be the path to awakening?’\nStemming from that memory came the understanding:\n‘That is the path to awakening!’"}},{"id":"mn100:29","sourceIds":["mn100:29.1","mn100:29.2","mn100:29.3","mn100:29.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘kiṁ nu kho ahaṁ tassa sukhassa bhāyāmi yaṁ taṁ sukhaṁ aññatreva kāmehi aññatra akusalehi dhammehī’ti?\nTassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘na kho ahaṁ tassa sukhassa bhāyāmi yaṁ taṁ sukhaṁ aññatreva kāmehi aññatra akusalehi dhammehī’ti.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘Why am I afraid of that pleasure, for it has nothing to do with sensual pleasures or unskillful qualities?’\nThen it occurred to me,\n‘I’m not afraid of that pleasure, for it has nothing to do with sensual pleasures or unskillful qualities.’"}},{"id":"mn100:30","sourceIds":["mn100:30.1","mn100:30.2","mn100:30.3","mn100:30.4","mn100:30.5","mn100:30.6","mn100:30.7","mn100:30.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhāradvāja, etadahosi:\n‘na kho taṁ sukaraṁ sukhaṁ adhigantuṁ evaṁ adhimattakasimānaṁ pattakāyena.\nYannūnāhaṁ oḷārikaṁ āhāraṁ āhāreyyaṁ odanakummāsan’ti.\nSo kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, oḷārikaṁ āhāraṁ āhāresiṁ odanakummāsaṁ.\nTena kho pana maṁ, bhāradvāja, samayena pañcavaggiyā bhikkhū paccupaṭṭhitā honti:\n‘yaṁ kho samaṇo gotamo dhammaṁ adhigamissati taṁ no ārocessatī’ti.\nYato kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, oḷārikaṁ āhāraṁ āhāresiṁ odanakummāsaṁ, atha me te pañcavaggiyā bhikkhū nibbijja pakkamiṁsu:\n‘bāhulliko samaṇo gotamo padhānavibbhanto āvatto bāhullāyā’ti.","en":"Then it occurred to me,\n‘I can’t achieve that pleasure with a body so severely emaciated. Why don’t I eat some solid food, some rice and porridge?’\nSo I ate some solid food.\nNow at that time the group of five mendicants were attending on me, thinking,\n‘The ascetic Gotama will tell us of any truth that he realizes.’\nBut when I ate some solid food, they left disappointed in me, saying,\n‘The ascetic Gotama has become indulgent; he has strayed from the struggle and returned to indulgence.’"}},{"id":"mn100:31-33","sourceIds":["mn100:31-33.1","mn100:31-33.2","mn100:31-33.3","mn100:31-33.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So kho ahaṁ, bhāradvāja, oḷārikaṁ āhāraṁ āhāretvā balaṁ gahetvā vivicceva kāmehi …pe… paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja vihāsiṁ.\nVitakkavicārānaṁ vūpasamā ajjhattaṁ sampasādanaṁ cetaso ekodibhāvaṁ avitakkaṁ avicāraṁ samādhijaṁ pītisukhaṁ dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ …\ntatiyaṁ jhānaṁ …\ncatutthaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja vihāsiṁ.","en":"After eating solid food and gathering my strength, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, I entered and remained in the first absorption …\nAs the placing of the mind and keeping it connected were stilled, I entered and remained in the second absorption …\nthird absorption …\nfourth absorption."}},{"id":"mn100:34","sourceIds":["mn100:34.1","mn100:34.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So evaṁ samāhite citte parisuddhe pariyodāte anaṅgaṇe vigatūpakkilese mudubhūte kammaniye ṭhite āneñjappatte pubbenivāsānussatiñāṇāya cittaṁ abhininnāmesiṁ.\nSo anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarāmi, seyyathidaṁ—ekampi jātiṁ dvepi jātiyo …pe… iti sākāraṁ sauddesaṁ anekavihitaṁ pubbenivāsaṁ anussarāmi.","en":"When my mind had immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—I extended it toward recollection of past lives.\nI recollected many past lives. That is: one, two, three, four, five, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand rebirths; many eons of the world contracting, many eons of the world expanding, many eons of the world contracting and expanding. And so I recollected my many kinds of past lives, with features and details."}},{"id":"mn100:35","sourceIds":["mn100:35.1","mn100:35.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ayaṁ kho me, bhāradvāja, rattiyā paṭhame yāme paṭhamā vijjā adhigatā,\navijjā vihatā, vijjā uppannā; tamo vihato, āloko uppanno; yathā taṁ appamattassa ātāpino pahitattassa viharato.","en":"This was the first knowledge, which I achieved in the first watch of the night.\nIgnorance was banished and knowledge arose; darkness was banished and light arose, as happens for a meditator who is diligent, keen, and resolute."}},{"id":"mn100:36-38","sourceIds":["mn100:36-38.1","mn100:36-38.2","mn100:36-38.3","mn100:36-38.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So evaṁ samāhite citte parisuddhe pariyodāte anaṅgaṇe vigatūpakkilese mudubhūte kammaniye ṭhite āneñjappatte sattānaṁ cutūpapātañāṇāya cittaṁ abhininnāmesiṁ.\nSo dibbena cakkhunā visuddhena atikkantamānusakena satte passāmi cavamāne upapajjamāne hīne paṇīte suvaṇṇe dubbaṇṇe sugate duggate yathākammūpage satte pajānāmi …pe…\nayaṁ kho me, bhāradvāja, rattiyā majjhime yāme dutiyā\nvijjā adhigatā, avijjā vihatā, vijjā uppannā; tamo vihato, āloko uppanno; yathā taṁ appamattassa ātāpino pahitattassa viharato.","en":"When my mind had immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—I extended it toward knowledge of the death and rebirth of sentient beings.\nWith clairvoyance that is purified and superhuman, I saw sentient beings passing away and being reborn—inferior and superior, beautiful and ugly, in a good place or a bad place. I understood how sentient beings pass on according to their deeds.\nThis was the second knowledge, which I achieved in the middle watch of the night.\nIgnorance was banished and knowledge arose; darkness was banished and light arose, as happens for a meditator who is diligent, keen, and resolute."}},{"id":"mn100:39","sourceIds":["mn100:39.1","mn100:39.2","mn100:39.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So evaṁ samāhite citte parisuddhe pariyodāte anaṅgaṇe vigatūpakkilese mudubhūte kammaniye ṭhite āneñjappatte āsavānaṁ khayañāṇāya cittaṁ abhininnāmesiṁ.\nSo ‘idaṁ dukkhan’ti yathābhūtaṁ abbhaññāsiṁ, ‘ayaṁ dukkhasamudayo’ti yathābhūtaṁ abbhaññāsiṁ, ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodho’ti yathābhūtaṁ abbhaññāsiṁ, ‘ayaṁ dukkhanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ abbhaññāsiṁ;\n‘ime āsavā’ti yathābhūtaṁ abbhaññāsiṁ, ‘ayaṁ āsavasamudayo’ti yathābhūtaṁ abbhaññāsiṁ, ‘ayaṁ āsavanirodho’ti yathābhūtaṁ abbhaññāsiṁ, ‘ayaṁ āsavanirodhagāminī paṭipadā’ti yathābhūtaṁ abbhaññāsiṁ.","en":"When my mind had immersed in samādhi like this—purified, bright, flawless, rid of corruptions, pliable, workable, steady, and imperturbable—I extended it toward knowledge of the ending of defilements.\nI truly understood: ‘This is suffering’ … ‘This is the origin of suffering’ … ‘This is the cessation of suffering’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering.’\nI truly understood: ‘These are defilements’ … ‘This is the origin of defilements’ … ‘This is the cessation of defilements’ … ‘This is the practice that leads to the cessation of defilements.’"}},{"id":"mn100:40","sourceIds":["mn100:40.1","mn100:40.2","mn100:40.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa me evaṁ jānato evaṁ passato kāmāsavāpi cittaṁ vimuccittha, bhavāsavāpi cittaṁ vimuccittha, avijjāsavāpi cittaṁ vimuccittha.\nVimuttasmiṁ vimuttamiti ñāṇaṁ ahosi.\n‘Khīṇā jāti, vusitaṁ brahmacariyaṁ, kataṁ karaṇīyaṁ, nāparaṁ itthattāyā’ti abbhaññāsiṁ.","en":"Knowing and seeing like this, my mind was freed from the defilements of sensuality, desire to be reborn, and ignorance.\nWhen it was freed, I knew it was freed.\nI understood: ‘Rebirth is ended; the spiritual journey has been completed; what had to be done has been done; there is nothing further for this place.’"}},{"id":"mn100:41","sourceIds":["mn100:41.1","mn100:41.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ayaṁ kho me, bhāradvāja, rattiyā pacchime yāme tatiyā\nvijjā adhigatā, avijjā vihatā, vijjā uppannā; tamo vihato, āloko uppanno; yathā taṁ appamattassa ātāpino pahitattassa viharato”ti.","en":"This was the third knowledge, which I achieved in the last watch of the night.\nIgnorance was banished and knowledge arose; darkness was banished and light arose, as happens for a meditator who is diligent, keen, and resolute.”"}},{"id":"mn100:42","sourceIds":["mn100:42.1","mn100:42.2","mn100:42.3","mn100:42.4","mn100:42.5","mn100:42.6","mn100:42.7","mn100:42.8","mn100:42.9","mn100:42.10","mn100:42.11","mn100:42.12","mn100:42.13","mn100:42.14"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ vutte, saṅgāravo māṇavo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“aṭṭhitavataṁ bhoto gotamassa padhānaṁ ahosi, sappurisavataṁ bhoto gotamassa padhānaṁ ahosi;\nyathā taṁ arahato sammāsambuddhassa.\nKiṁ nu kho, bho gotama, atthi devā”ti?\n“Ṭhānaso metaṁ, bhāradvāja, viditaṁ yadidaṁ—\nadhidevā”ti.\n“Kiṁ nu kho, bho gotama, ‘atthi devā’ti puṭṭho samāno ‘ṭhānaso metaṁ, bhāradvāja, viditaṁ yadidaṁ adhidevā’ti vadesi.\nNanu, bho gotama, evaṁ sante tucchā musā hotī”ti?\n“‘Atthi devā’ti, bhāradvāja, puṭṭho samāno ‘atthi devā’ti yo vadeyya, ‘ṭhānaso me viditā’ti yo vadeyya;\natha khvettha viññunā purisena ekaṁsena niṭṭhaṁ gantabbaṁ yadidaṁ:\n‘atthi devā’”ti.\n“Kissa pana me bhavaṁ gotamo ādikeneva na byākāsī”ti?\n“Uccena sammataṁ kho etaṁ, bhāradvāja, lokasmiṁ yadidaṁ:\n‘atthi devā’”ti.","en":"When he had spoken, Saṅgārava said to the Buddha,\n“The striving of the worthy Gotama was indeed assiduous and that of a true person,\nsince he is a perfected one, a fully awakened Buddha.\nBut worthy Gotama, do gods survive?”\n“I’ve understood about gods in terms of causes.”\n“But worthy Gotama, when asked ‘Do gods survive?’ why did you say that you have understood about gods in terms of causes?\nThat being so, is it not hollow and false?”\n“When asked ‘Do gods survive’, whether you reply ‘Gods survive’ or ‘I’ve understood in terms of causes’\na sensible person would come to the categorical conclusion in this matter that\ngods survive.”\n“But why didn’t you say that in the first place?”\n“It is agreed by the eminent in the world that gods survive.”"}},{"id":"mn100:43","sourceIds":["mn100:43.1","mn100:43.2","mn100:43.3","mn100:43.4","mn100:43.5","mn100:43.6","mn100:43.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ vutte, saṅgāravo māṇavo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“abhikkantaṁ, bho gotama, abhikkantaṁ, bho gotama.\nSeyyathāpi, bho gotama, nikkujjitaṁ vā ukkujjeyya, paṭicchannaṁ vā vivareyya, mūḷhassa vā maggaṁ ācikkheyya, andhakāre vā telapajjotaṁ dhāreyya: ‘cakkhumanto rūpāni dakkhantī’ti; evamevaṁ bhotā gotamena anekapariyāyena dhammo pakāsito.\nEsāhaṁ bhavantaṁ gotamaṁ saraṇaṁ gacchāmi dhammañca bhikkhusaṅghañca.\nUpāsakaṁ maṁ bhavaṁ gotamo dhāretu ajjatagge pāṇupetaṁ saraṇaṁ gatan”ti.\nSaṅgāravasuttaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ dasamaṁ.\nBrāhmaṇavaggo niṭṭhito pañcamo.","en":"When he had spoken, Saṅgārava said to the Buddha,\n“Excellent, worthy Gotama! Excellent!\nAs if he were righting the overturned, or revealing the hidden, or pointing out the path to the lost, or lighting a lamp in the dark so people with clear eyes can see what’s there, worthy Gotama has made the Teaching clear in many ways.\nI go for refuge to the worthy Gotama, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha.\nFrom this day forth, may the worthy Gotama remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life.”"}},{"id":"mn100:44","sourceIds":["mn100:44.0","mn100:44.1","mn100:44.2","mn100:44.3","mn100:44.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassuddānaṁ\nBrahmāyu selassalāyano,\nghoṭamukho ca brāhmaṇo;\nCaṅkī esu dhanañjāni,\nvāseṭṭho subhagāravoti."}},{"id":"mn100:45","sourceIds":["mn100:45.0","mn100:45.1","mn100:45.2","mn100:45.3","mn100:45.4","mn100:45.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Idaṁ vaggānamuddānaṁ\nVaggo gahapati bhikkhu,\nparibbājakanāmako;\nRājavaggo brāhmaṇoti,\npañca majjhimaāgame.\nMajjhimapaṇṇāsakaṁ samattaṁ."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/mn100/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}