{"id":"mn107","title":"With Moggallāna the Accountant","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"mn107","title":"With Moggallāna the Accountant","units":[{"id":"mn107:0","sourceIds":["mn107:0.1","mn107:0.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Majjhima Nikāya 107\nGaṇakamoggallānasutta","en":"Middle Discourses 107\nWith Moggallāna the Accountant"}},{"id":"mn107:1","sourceIds":["mn107:1.1","mn107:1.2","mn107:1.3","mn107:1.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ me sutaṁ—\nekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati pubbārāme migāramātupāsāde.\nAtha kho gaṇakamoggallāno brāhmaṇo yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavatā saddhiṁ sammodi.\nSammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho gaṇakamoggallāno brāhmaṇo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:","en":"So I have heard.\nAt one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in the stilt longhouse of Migāra’s mother in the Eastern Monastery.\nThen the brahmin Moggallāna the Accountant went up to the Buddha, and exchanged greetings with him.\nWhen the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to the Buddha:"}},{"id":"mn107:2","sourceIds":["mn107:2.1","mn107:2.2","mn107:2.3","mn107:2.4","mn107:2.5","mn107:2.6","mn107:2.7","mn107:2.8","mn107:2.9","mn107:2.10","mn107:2.11","mn107:2.12"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Seyyathāpi, bho gotama, imassa migāramātupāsādassa dissati anupubbasikkhā anupubbakiriyā anupubbapaṭipadā yadidaṁ—\nyāva pacchimasopānakaḷevarā;\nimesampi hi, bho gotama, brāhmaṇānaṁ dissati anupubbasikkhā anupubbakiriyā anupubbapaṭipadā yadidaṁ—\najjhene;\nimesampi hi, bho gotama, issāsānaṁ dissati anupubbasikkhā anupubbakiriyā anupubbapaṭipadā yadidaṁ—\nissatthe.\nAmhākampi hi, bho gotama, gaṇakānaṁ gaṇanājīvānaṁ dissati anupubbasikkhā anupubbakiriyā anupubbapaṭipadā yadidaṁ—\nsaṅkhāne.\nMayañhi, bho gotama, antevāsiṁ labhitvā paṭhamaṁ evaṁ gaṇāpema:\n‘ekaṁ ekakaṁ, dve dukā, tīṇi tikā, cattāri catukkā, pañca pañcakā, cha chakkā, satta sattakā, aṭṭha aṭṭhakā, nava navakā, dasa dasakā’ti;\nsatampi mayaṁ, bho gotama, gaṇāpema, bhiyyopi gaṇāpema.\nSakkā nu kho, bho gotama, imasmimpi dhammavinaye evameva anupubbasikkhā anupubbakiriyā anupubbapaṭipadā paññapetun”ti?","en":"“Worthy Gotama, in this stilt longhouse we can see gradual training, gradual progress, and gradual practice\ndown to the last step of the staircase.\nAmong the brahmins we can see gradual training, gradual progress, and gradual practice\nin recitation.\nAmong archers we can see gradual training, gradual progress, and gradual practice\nin archery.\nAmong us accountants, who earn a living by accounting, we can see gradual training, gradual progress, and gradual practice\nin mathematics.\nFor when we get an apprentice we first make them count:\n‘One one, two twos, three threes, four fours, five fives, six sixes, seven sevens, eight eights, nine nines, ten tens.’\nWe even make them count up to a hundred.\nIs it possible to similarly describe a gradual training, gradual progress, and gradual practice in this teaching and training?”"}},{"id":"mn107:3","sourceIds":["mn107:3.1","mn107:3.2","mn107:3.3","mn107:3.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Sakkā, brāhmaṇa, imasmimpi dhammavinaye anupubbasikkhā anupubbakiriyā anupubbapaṭipadā paññapetuṁ.\nSeyyathāpi, brāhmaṇa, dakkho assadammako bhaddaṁ assājānīyaṁ labhitvā paṭhameneva mukhādhāne kāraṇaṁ kāreti, atha uttariṁ kāraṇaṁ kāreti;\nevameva kho, brāhmaṇa, tathāgato purisadammaṁ labhitvā paṭhamaṁ evaṁ vineti:\n‘ehi tvaṁ, bhikkhu, sīlavā hohi, pātimokkhasaṁvarasaṁvuto viharāhi ācāragocarasampanno aṇumattesu vajjesu bhayadassāvī, samādāya sikkhassu sikkhāpadesū’ti.","en":"“It is possible, brahmin.\nSuppose a deft horse trainer were to obtain a fine thoroughbred. First of all he’d make it get used to wearing the bit.\nIn the same way, when the Realized One gets a person fit for training they first guide them like this:\n‘Come, mendicant, be ethical and restrained in the monastic code, conducting yourself well and resorting for alms in suitable places. Seeing danger in the slightest fault, keep the rules you’ve undertaken.’"}},{"id":"mn107:4","sourceIds":["mn107:4.1","mn107:4.2","mn107:4.3","mn107:4.4","mn107:4.5","mn107:4.6","mn107:4.7","mn107:4.8","mn107:4.9"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Yato kho, brāhmaṇa, bhikkhu sīlavā hoti, pātimokkhasaṁvarasaṁvuto viharati ācāragocarasampanno aṇumattesu vajjesu bhayadassāvī, samādāya sikkhati sikkhāpadesu, tamenaṁ tathāgato uttariṁ vineti:\n‘ehi tvaṁ, bhikkhu, indriyesu guttadvāro hohi, cakkhunā rūpaṁ disvā mā nimittaggāhī hohi mānubyañjanaggāhī.\nYatvādhikaraṇamenaṁ cakkhundriyaṁ asaṁvutaṁ viharantaṁ abhijjhādomanassā pāpakā akusalā dhammā anvāssaveyyuṁ tassa saṁvarāya paṭipajjāhi; rakkhāhi cakkhundriyaṁ, cakkhundriye saṁvaraṁ āpajjāhi.\nSotena saddaṁ sutvā …pe…\nghānena gandhaṁ ghāyitvā …pe…\njivhāya rasaṁ sāyitvā …pe…\nkāyena phoṭṭhabbaṁ phusitvā …pe…\nmanasā dhammaṁ viññāya mā nimittaggāhī hohi mānubyañjanaggāhī.\nYatvādhikaraṇamenaṁ manindriyaṁ asaṁvutaṁ viharantaṁ abhijjhādomanassā pāpakā akusalā dhammā anvāssaveyyuṁ tassa saṁvarāya paṭipajjāhi; rakkhāhi manindriyaṁ, manindriye saṁvaraṁ āpajjāhī’ti.","en":"When they have ethical conduct, the Realized One guides them further:\n‘Come, mendicant, guard your sense doors. When you see a sight with your eyes, don’t get caught up in the features and details.\nIf the faculty of sight were left unrestrained, bad unskillful qualities of covetousness and displeasure would become overwhelming. For this reason, practice restraint, protect the faculty of sight, and achieve its restraint.\nWhen you hear a sound with your ears …\nWhen you smell an odor with your nose …\nWhen you taste a flavor with your tongue …\nWhen you feel a touch with your body …\nWhen you know an idea with your mind, don’t get caught up in the features and details.\nIf the faculty of mind were left unrestrained, bad unskillful qualities of covetousness and displeasure would become overwhelming. For this reason, practice restraint, protect the faculty of mind, and achieve its restraint.’"}},{"id":"mn107:5","sourceIds":["mn107:5.1","mn107:5.2","mn107:5.3","mn107:5.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Yato kho, brāhmaṇa, bhikkhu indriyesu guttadvāro hoti, tamenaṁ tathāgato uttariṁ vineti:\n‘ehi tvaṁ, bhikkhu, bhojane mattaññū hohi.\nPaṭisaṅkhā yoniso āhāraṁ āhāreyyāsi—\nneva davāya na madāya na maṇḍanāya na vibhūsanāya, yāvadeva imassa kāyassa ṭhitiyā yāpanāya vihiṁsūparatiyā brahmacariyānuggahāya—iti purāṇañca vedanaṁ paṭihaṅkhāmi, navañca vedanaṁ na uppādessāmi, yātrā ca me bhavissati anavajjatā ca phāsuvihāro cā’ti.","en":"When they guard their sense doors, the Realized One guides them further:\n‘Come, mendicant, eat in moderation.\nReflect rationally on the food that you eat:\n“Not for fun, indulgence, adornment, or decoration, but only to sustain this body, to avoid harm, and to support spiritual practice. In this way, I shall put an end to old discomfort and not give rise to new discomfort, and I will have the means to keep going, blamelessness, and a comfortable abiding.”’"}},{"id":"mn107:6","sourceIds":["mn107:6.1","mn107:6.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Yato kho, brāhmaṇa, bhikkhu bhojane mattaññū hoti, tamenaṁ tathāgato uttariṁ vineti:\n‘ehi tvaṁ, bhikkhu, jāgariyaṁ anuyutto viharāhi, divasaṁ caṅkamena nisajjāya āvaraṇīyehi dhammehi cittaṁ parisodhehi, rattiyā paṭhamaṁ yāmaṁ caṅkamena nisajjāya āvaraṇīyehi dhammehi cittaṁ parisodhehi, rattiyā majjhimaṁ yāmaṁ dakkhiṇena passena sīhaseyyaṁ kappeyyāsi pāde pādaṁ accādhāya sato sampajāno uṭṭhānasaññaṁ manasikaritvā, rattiyā pacchimaṁ yāmaṁ paccuṭṭhāya caṅkamena nisajjāya āvaraṇīyehi dhammehi cittaṁ parisodhehī’ti.","en":"When they eat in moderation, the Realized One guides them further:\n‘Come, mendicant, be committed to wakefulness. Practice walking and sitting meditation by day, purifying your mind from obstacles. In the first watch of the night, continue to practice walking and sitting meditation. In the middle watch, lie down in the lion’s posture—on the right side, placing one foot on top of the other—mindful and aware, and focused on the time of getting up. In the last watch, get up and continue to practice walking and sitting meditation, purifying your mind from obstacles.’"}},{"id":"mn107:7","sourceIds":["mn107:7.1","mn107:7.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Yato kho, brāhmaṇa, bhikkhu jāgariyaṁ anuyutto hoti, tamenaṁ tathāgato uttariṁ vineti:\n‘ehi tvaṁ, bhikkhu, satisampajaññena samannāgato hohi, abhikkante paṭikkante sampajānakārī, ālokite vilokite sampajānakārī, samiñjite pasārite sampajānakārī, saṅghāṭipattacīvaradhāraṇe sampajānakārī, asite pīte khāyite sāyite sampajānakārī, uccārapassāvakamme sampajānakārī, gate ṭhite nisinne sutte jāgarite bhāsite tuṇhībhāve sampajānakārī’ti.","en":"When they are committed to wakefulness, the Realized One guides them further:\n‘Come, mendicant, have mindfulness and situational awareness. Act with situational awareness when going out and coming back; when looking ahead and aside; when bending and extending the limbs; when bearing the outer robe, bowl and robes; when eating, drinking, chewing, and tasting; when urinating and defecating; when walking, standing, sitting, sleeping, waking, speaking, and keeping silent.’"}},{"id":"mn107:8","sourceIds":["mn107:8.1","mn107:8.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Yato kho, brāhmaṇa, bhikkhu satisampajaññena samannāgato hoti, tamenaṁ tathāgato uttariṁ vineti:\n‘ehi tvaṁ, bhikkhu, vivittaṁ senāsanaṁ bhajāhi araññaṁ rukkhamūlaṁ pabbataṁ kandaraṁ giriguhaṁ susānaṁ vanapatthaṁ abbhokāsaṁ palālapuñjan’ti.","en":"When they have mindfulness and situational awareness, the Realized One guides them further:\n‘Come, mendicant, frequent a secluded lodging—a wilderness, the root of a tree, a hill, a ravine, a mountain cave, a charnel ground, a forest, the open air, a heap of straw.’"}},{"id":"mn107:9","sourceIds":["mn107:9.1","mn107:9.2","mn107:9.3","mn107:9.4","mn107:9.5","mn107:9.6","mn107:9.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So vivittaṁ senāsanaṁ bhajati araññaṁ rukkhamūlaṁ pabbataṁ kandaraṁ giriguhaṁ susānaṁ vanapatthaṁ abbhokāsaṁ palālapuñjaṁ.\nSo pacchābhattaṁ piṇḍapātapaṭikkanto nisīdati pallaṅkaṁ ābhujitvā, ujuṁ kāyaṁ paṇidhāya, parimukhaṁ satiṁ upaṭṭhapetvā.\nSo abhijjhaṁ loke pahāya vigatābhijjhena cetasā viharati, abhijjhāya cittaṁ parisodheti;\nbyāpādapadosaṁ pahāya abyāpannacitto viharati sabbapāṇabhūtahitānukampī, byāpādapadosā cittaṁ parisodheti;\nthinamiddhaṁ pahāya vigatathinamiddho viharati ālokasaññī sato sampajāno, thinamiddhā cittaṁ parisodheti;\nuddhaccakukkuccaṁ pahāya anuddhato viharati ajjhattaṁ vūpasantacitto, uddhaccakukkuccā cittaṁ parisodheti;\nvicikicchaṁ pahāya tiṇṇavicikiccho viharati akathaṅkathī kusalesu dhammesu, vicikicchāya cittaṁ parisodheti.","en":"And they do so.\nAfter the meal, they return from almsround, sit down cross-legged, set their body straight, and bring mindfulness to the present.\nGiving up covetousness for the world, they meditate with a heart rid of covetousness, cleansing the mind of covetousness.\nGiving up ill will and malevolence, they meditate with a mind rid of ill will, full of sympathy for all living beings, cleansing the mind of ill will.\nGiving up dullness and drowsiness, they meditate with a mind rid of dullness and drowsiness, perceiving light, mindful and aware, cleansing the mind of dullness and drowsiness.\nGiving up restlessness and remorse, they meditate without restlessness, their mind settled internally, cleansing the mind of restlessness and remorse.\nGiving up doubt, they meditate having gone beyond doubt, not undecided about skillful qualities, cleansing the mind of doubt."}},{"id":"mn107:10","sourceIds":["mn107:10.1","mn107:10.2","mn107:10.3","mn107:10.4","mn107:10.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So ime pañca nīvaraṇe pahāya cetaso upakkilese paññāya dubbalīkaraṇe\nvivicceva kāmehi vivicca akusalehi dhammehi savitakkaṁ savicāraṁ vivekajaṁ pītisukhaṁ paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.\nVitakkavicārānaṁ vūpasamā ajjhattaṁ sampasādanaṁ …pe… dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.\nPītiyā ca virāgā … tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.\nSukhassa ca pahānā … catutthaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.","en":"They give up these five hindrances, corruptions of the heart that weaken wisdom.\nThen, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, they enter and remain in the first absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of seclusion, while placing the mind and keeping it connected.\nAs the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, they enter and remain in the second absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of immersion, with internal clarity and mind at one, without placing the mind and keeping it connected.\nAnd with the fading away of rapture, they enter and remain in the third absorption, where they meditate with equanimity, mindful and aware, experiencing for themselves the bliss of which the noble ones declare, ‘Equanimous and mindful, one meditates in bliss.’\nWith the giving up of pleasure and pain and the disappearance of former happiness and sadness, they enter and remain in the fourth absorption, without pleasure or pain, with pure equanimity and mindfulness."}},{"id":"mn107:11","sourceIds":["mn107:11.1","mn107:11.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ye kho te, brāhmaṇa, bhikkhū sekkhā apattamānasā anuttaraṁ yogakkhemaṁ patthayamānā viharanti tesu me ayaṁ evarūpī anusāsanī hoti.\nYe pana te bhikkhū arahanto khīṇāsavā vusitavanto katakaraṇīyā ohitabhārā anuppattasadatthā parikkhīṇabhavasaṁyojanā sammadaññāvimuttā tesaṁ ime dhammā diṭṭhadhammasukhavihārāya ceva saṁvattanti, satisampajaññāya cā”ti.","en":"That’s how I instruct the mendicants who are trainees—who haven’t achieved their heart’s desire, but live aspiring to the supreme sanctuary from the yoke.\nBut for those mendicants who are perfected—who have ended the defilements, completed the spiritual journey, done what had to be done, laid down the burden, achieved their heart’s goal, utterly ended the fetter of continued existence, and are rightly freed through enlightenment—these things lead to blissful meditation in this life, and to mindfulness and awareness.”"}},{"id":"mn107:12","sourceIds":["mn107:12.1","mn107:12.2","mn107:12.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ vutte, gaṇakamoggallāno brāhmaṇo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“kiṁ nu kho bhoto gotamassa sāvakā bhotā gotamena evaṁ ovadīyamānā evaṁ anusāsīyamānā sabbe accantaṁ niṭṭhaṁ nibbānaṁ ārādhenti udāhu ekacce nārādhentī”ti?\n“Appekacce kho, brāhmaṇa, mama sāvakā mayā evaṁ ovadīyamānā evaṁ anusāsīyamānā accantaṁ niṭṭhaṁ nibbānaṁ ārādhenti, ekacce nārādhentī”ti.","en":"When he had spoken, Moggallāna the Accountant said to the Buddha,\n“When his disciples are instructed and advised like this by the worthy Gotama, do all of them achieve the ultimate goal, extinguishment, or do some of them fail?”\n“Some succeed, while others fail.”"}},{"id":"mn107:13","sourceIds":["mn107:13.1","mn107:13.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ko nu kho, bho gotama, hetu ko paccayo yaṁ tiṭṭhateva nibbānaṁ, tiṭṭhati nibbānagāmī maggo, tiṭṭhati bhavaṁ gotamo samādapetā;\natha ca pana bhoto gotamassa sāvakā bhotā gotamena evaṁ ovadīyamānā evaṁ anusāsīyamānā appekacce accantaṁ niṭṭhaṁ nibbānaṁ ārādhenti, ekacce nārādhentī”ti?","en":"“What is the cause, worthy Gotama, what is the reason why, though extinguishment is present, the path leading to extinguishment is present, and the worthy Gotama is present to encourage them,\nstill some succeed while others fail?”"}},{"id":"mn107:14","sourceIds":["mn107:14.1","mn107:14.2","mn107:14.3","mn107:14.4","mn107:14.5","mn107:14.6","mn107:14.7","mn107:14.8","mn107:14.9","mn107:14.10","mn107:14.11","mn107:14.12","mn107:14.13","mn107:14.14","mn107:14.15","mn107:14.16","mn107:14.17","mn107:14.18","mn107:14.19","mn107:14.20","mn107:14.21","mn107:14.22","mn107:14.23","mn107:14.24","mn107:14.25","mn107:14.26","mn107:14.27","mn107:14.28","mn107:14.29","mn107:14.30","mn107:14.31","mn107:14.32"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Tena hi, brāhmaṇa, taṁyevettha paṭipucchissāmi. Yathā te khameyya tathā naṁ byākareyyāsi.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, brāhmaṇa,\nkusalo tvaṁ rājagahagāmissa maggassā”ti?\n“Evaṁ, bho, kusalo ahaṁ rājagahagāmissa maggassā”ti.\n“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, brāhmaṇa,\nidha puriso āgaccheyya rājagahaṁ gantukāmo.\nSo taṁ upasaṅkamitvā evaṁ vadeyya:\n‘icchāmahaṁ, bhante, rājagahaṁ gantuṁ;\ntassa me rājagahassa maggaṁ upadisā’ti.\nTamenaṁ tvaṁ evaṁ vadeyyāsi:\n‘ehambho purisa, ayaṁ maggo rājagahaṁ gacchati.\nTena muhuttaṁ gaccha, tena muhuttaṁ gantvā dakkhissasi amukaṁ nāma gāmaṁ, tena muhuttaṁ gaccha, tena muhuttaṁ gantvā dakkhissasi amukaṁ nāma nigamaṁ;\ntena muhuttaṁ gaccha, tena muhuttaṁ gantvā dakkhissasi rājagahassa ārāmarāmaṇeyyakaṁ vanarāmaṇeyyakaṁ bhūmirāmaṇeyyakaṁ pokkharaṇīrāmaṇeyyakan’ti.\nSo tayā evaṁ ovadīyamāno evaṁ anusāsīyamāno ummaggaṁ gahetvā pacchāmukho gaccheyya.\nAtha dutiyo puriso āgaccheyya rājagahaṁ gantukāmo.\nSo taṁ upasaṅkamitvā evaṁ vadeyya:\n‘icchāmahaṁ, bhante, rājagahaṁ gantuṁ;\ntassa me rājagahassa maggaṁ upadisā’ti.\nTamenaṁ tvaṁ evaṁ vadeyyāsi:\n‘ehambho purisa, ayaṁ maggo rājagahaṁ gacchati.\nTena muhuttaṁ gaccha, tena muhuttaṁ gantvā dakkhissasi amukaṁ nāma gāmaṁ;\ntena muhuttaṁ gaccha, tena muhuttaṁ gantvā dakkhissasi amukaṁ nāma nigamaṁ;\ntena muhuttaṁ gaccha, tena muhuttaṁ gantvā dakkhissasi rājagahassa ārāmarāmaṇeyyakaṁ vanarāmaṇeyyakaṁ bhūmirāmaṇeyyakaṁ pokkharaṇīrāmaṇeyyakan’ti.\nSo tayā evaṁ ovadīyamāno evaṁ anusāsīyamāno sotthinā rājagahaṁ gaccheyya.\nKo nu kho, brāhmaṇa, hetu ko paccayo yaṁ tiṭṭhateva rājagahaṁ, tiṭṭhati rājagahagāmī maggo, tiṭṭhasi tvaṁ samādapetā;\natha ca pana tayā evaṁ ovadīyamāno evaṁ anusāsīyamāno eko puriso ummaggaṁ gahetvā pacchāmukho gaccheyya, eko sotthinā rājagahaṁ gaccheyyā”ti?\n“Ettha kyāhaṁ, bho gotama, karomi?\nMaggakkhāyīhaṁ, bho gotamā”ti.\n“Evameva kho, brāhmaṇa, tiṭṭhateva nibbānaṁ, tiṭṭhati nibbānagāmī maggo, tiṭṭhāmahaṁ samādapetā;\natha ca pana mama sāvakā mayā evaṁ ovadīyamānā evaṁ anusāsīyamānā appekacce accantaṁ niṭṭhaṁ nibbānaṁ ārādhenti, ekacce nārādhenti.\nEttha kyāhaṁ, brāhmaṇa, karomi?\nMaggakkhāyīhaṁ, brāhmaṇa, tathāgato”ti.","en":"“Well then, brahmin, I’ll ask you about this in return, and you can answer as you like.\nWhat do you think, brahmin?\nAre you skilled in the road to Rājagaha?”\n“Yes, I am.”\n“What do you think, brahmin?\nSuppose a person was to come along who wanted to go to Rājagaha.\nHe’d approach you and say:\n‘Sir, I wish to go to Rājagaha.\nPlease point out the road to Rājagaha.’\nYou’d say to them:\n‘Here, my man, this road goes to Rājagaha.\nGo along it for an hour, and you’ll see a certain village. Go along an hour further, and you’ll see a certain town.\nGo along an hour further and you’ll see Rājagaha with its delightful parks, woods, meadows, and lotus ponds.’\nInstructed like this by you, they might still take the wrong road, heading west.\nBut a second person might come with the same question and receive the same instructions.\nInstructed by you, they might safely arrive at Rājagaha.\nWhat is the cause, brahmin, what is the reason why, though Rājagaha is present, the path leading to Rājagaha is present, and you are there to encourage them,\none person takes the wrong path and heads west, while another arrives safely at Rājagaha?”\n“What can I do about that, worthy Gotama?\nI am the one who shows the way.”\n“In the same way, though extinguishment is present, the path leading to extinguishment is present, and I am present to encourage them,\nstill some of my disciples, instructed and advised like this, achieve the ultimate goal, extinguishment, while some of them fail.\nWhat can I do about that, brahmin?\nThe Realized One is the one who shows the way.”"}},{"id":"mn107:15","sourceIds":["mn107:15.1","mn107:15.2","mn107:15.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ vutte, gaṇakamoggallāno brāhmaṇo bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“yeme, bho gotama, puggalā assaddhā jīvikatthā na saddhā agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajitā saṭhā māyāvino ketabino uddhatā unnaḷā capalā mukharā vikiṇṇavācā indriyesu aguttadvārā bhojane amattaññuno jāgariyaṁ ananuyuttā sāmaññe anapekkhavanto sikkhāya na tibbagāravā bāhulikā sāthalikā okkamane pubbaṅgamā paviveke nikkhittadhurā kusītā hīnavīriyā muṭṭhassatino asampajānā asamāhitā vibbhantacittā duppaññā eḷamūgā, na tehi bhavaṁ gotamo saddhiṁ saṁvasati.\nYe pana te kulaputtā saddhā agārasmā anagāriyaṁ pabbajitā asaṭhā amāyāvino aketabino anuddhatā anunnaḷā acapalā amukharā avikiṇṇavācā indriyesu guttadvārā bhojane mattaññuno jāgariyaṁ anuyuttā sāmaññe apekkhavanto sikkhāya tibbagāravā nabāhulikā nasāthalikā okkamane nikkhittadhurā paviveke pubbaṅgamā āraddhavīriyā pahitattā upaṭṭhitassatino sampajānā samāhitā ekaggacittā paññavanto aneḷamūgā, tehi bhavaṁ gotamo saddhiṁ saṁvasati.","en":"When he had spoken, Moggallāna the Accountant said to the Buddha,\n“Worthy Gotama, there are those faithless individuals who went forth from the lay life to homelessness not out of faith but to earn a livelihood. They’re devious, deceitful, and sneaky. They’re haughty, insolent, fickle, scurrilous, and loose-tongued. They do not guard their sense doors or eat in moderation, and they are not committed to wakefulness. They don’t care about the ascetic life, and don’t keenly respect the training. They’re indulgent and slack, leaders in backsliding, neglecting seclusion, lazy, and lacking energy. They’re unmindful, lacking situational awareness and immersion, with straying minds, witless and idiotic. The worthy Gotama does not live together with these.\nBut there are those gentlemen who went forth from the lay life to homelessness out of faith. They’re not devious, deceitful, and sneaky. They’re not haughty, insolent, fickle, scurrilous, and loose-tongued. They guard their sense doors and eat in moderation, and they are committed to wakefulness. They care about the ascetic life, and keenly respect the training. They’re not indulgent or slack, nor are they leaders in backsliding, neglecting seclusion. They’re energetic and determined. They’re mindful, with situational awareness, immersion, and unified minds; wise and clever. The worthy Gotama does live together with these."}},{"id":"mn107:16","sourceIds":["mn107:16.1","mn107:16.2","mn107:16.3","mn107:16.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Seyyathāpi, bho gotama, ye keci mūlagandhā, kālānusāri tesaṁ aggamakkhāyati;\nye keci sāragandhā, lohitacandanaṁ tesaṁ aggamakkhāyati;\nye keci pupphagandhā, vassikaṁ tesaṁ aggamakkhāyati;\nevameva bhoto gotamassa ovādo paramajjadhammesu.","en":"Of all kinds of fragrant root, spikenard is said to be the best.\nOf all kinds of fragrant heartwood, red sandalwood is said to be the best.\nOf all kinds of fragrant flower, jasmine is said to be the best.\nIn the same way, worthy Gotama’s advice is the best of contemporary teachings."}},{"id":"mn107:17","sourceIds":["mn107:17.1","mn107:17.2","mn107:17.3","mn107:17.4","mn107:17.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Abhikkantaṁ, bho gotama, abhikkantaṁ, bho gotama.\nSeyyathāpi, bho gotama, nikkujjitaṁ vā ukkujjeyya, paṭicchannaṁ vā vivareyya, mūḷhassa vā maggaṁ ācikkheyya, andhakāre vā telapajjotaṁ dhāreyya: ‘cakkhumanto rūpāni dakkhantī’ti; evamevaṁ bhotā gotamena anekapariyāyena dhammo pakāsito.\nEsāhaṁ bhavantaṁ gotamaṁ saraṇaṁ gacchāmi dhammañca bhikkhusaṅghañca.\nUpāsakaṁ maṁ bhavaṁ gotamo dhāretu ajjatagge pāṇupetaṁ saraṇaṁ gatan”ti.\nGaṇakamoggallānasuttaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ sattamaṁ.","en":"Excellent, worthy Gotama! Excellent!\nAs if he were righting the overturned, or revealing the hidden, or pointing out the path to the lost, or lighting a lamp in the dark so people with clear eyes can see what’s there, worthy Gotama has made the Teaching clear in many ways.\nI go for refuge to the worthy Gotama, to the teaching, and to the mendicant Saṅgha.\nFrom this day forth, may the worthy Gotama remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/mn107/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}