{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64","title":"Ordaining a trained candidate without approval","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Brahmāli · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64","title":"Ordaining a trained candidate without approval","units":[{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:0.1","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:0.2","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:0.3","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:0.4","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:0.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Theravāda Vinaya\nBhikkhunivibhaṅga\nPācittiyakaṇḍa\nGabbhinivagga\n64. Dutiyasikkhamānasikkhāpada","en":"Theravāda Collection on Monastic Law\nThe Nuns’ Analysis\nThe chapter on offenses entailing confession\nThe subchapter on pregnant women\nOrdaining a trained candidate without approval"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.0","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.1","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.2","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.3","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.4","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.5","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.6","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.7","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.8","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.9","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.10","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.11","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.12","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.13","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.14","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.15","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.16","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.17","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.18","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.19","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.20","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.21","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.22","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.23","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.24","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.25","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.26","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.27","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.28","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.29","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.30","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.31","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.32","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.33","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.34","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.35"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Origin story\nAt one time the Buddha was staying at Sāvatthī in the Jeta Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s Monastery.\nAt that time the nuns were giving the full admission to trainee nuns who had trained for two years in the six rules, but who had not been approved by the Sangha.\nThe nuns said,\n“Come, trainee nuns, find out about this,” “Give this,” “Bring this,” “There’s need for this,” or “Make this allowable.”\nBut they replied,\n“Venerables, we’re not trainee nuns. We’re nuns.”\nThe nuns of few desires complained and criticized them,\n“How can nuns give the full admission to trainee nuns who have trained for two years in the six rules, but who haven’t been approved by the Sangha?” …\n“Is it true, monks, that nuns do this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\nThe Buddha rebuked them …\n“How can nuns do this?\nThis will affect people’s confidence …”\nAfter rebuking them …\nhe gave a teaching and addressed the monks:\n“Monks, approval is required for the full admission of a trainee nun who has trained for two years in the six rules.\nAnd it should be given like this.\nAfter approaching the Sangha of nuns, that trainee nun should arrange her upper robe over one shoulder and pay respect at the feet of the nuns. She should then squat on her heels, raise her joined palms, and say:\n‘Venerables, I, the trainee nun so-and-so, who has trained for two years in the six rules under venerable so-and-so, ask the Sangha for approval to be fully admitted.’\nAnd she should ask a second\nand a third time.\nA competent and capable nun should then inform the Sangha:\n‘Please, venerables, I ask the Sangha to listen.\nThe trainee nun so-and-so, who has trained under venerable so-and-so for two years in the six rules, is asking the Sangha for approval to be fully admitted.\nIf the Sangha is ready, it should give approval for the trainee nun so-and-so, who has trained for two years in the six rules, to be fully admitted.\nThis is the motion.\nPlease, venerables, I ask the Sangha to listen.\nThe trainee nun so-and-so, who has trained under venerable so-and-so for two years in the six rules, is asking the Sangha for approval to be fully admitted.\nThe Sangha gives approval for the trainee nun so-and-so, who has trained for two years in the six rules, to be fully admitted.\nAny nun who approves of giving approval for the trainee nun so-and-so, who has trained for two years in the six rules, to be fully admitted should remain silent.\nAny nun who doesn’t approve should speak up.\nThe Sangha has given approval for the trainee nun so-and-so, who has trained for two years in the six rules, to be fully admitted.\nThe Sangha approves and is therefore silent. I will remember it thus.’”\nThen, after rebuking those nuns in many ways, the Buddha spoke in dispraise of being difficult to support …\n“And, monks, the nuns should recite this training rule like this:","pi":"Tena samayena buddho bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.\nTena kho pana samayena bhikkhuniyo dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhaṁ sikkhamānaṁ saṅghena asammataṁ vuṭṭhāpenti.\nBhikkhuniyo evamāhaṁsu—\n“etha, sikkhamānā, imaṁ jānātha, imaṁ detha, imaṁ āharatha, iminā attho, imaṁ kappiyaṁ karothā”ti.\nTā evamāhaṁsu—\n“na mayaṁ, ayye, sikkhamānā, bhikkhuniyo mayan”ti.\nYā tā bhikkhuniyo appicchā …pe… tā ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma bhikkhuniyo dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhaṁ sikkhamānaṁ saṅghena asammataṁ vuṭṭhāpessantī”ti …pe…\n“saccaṁ kira, bhikkhave, bhikkhuniyo dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhaṁ sikkhamānaṁ saṅghena asammataṁ vuṭṭhāpentī”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\nVigarahi buddho bhagavā …pe…\nkathañhi nāma, bhikkhave, bhikkhuniyo dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhaṁ sikkhamānaṁ saṅghena asammataṁ vuṭṭhāpessanti.\nNetaṁ, bhikkhave, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nvigarahitvā …pe…\ndhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā bhikkhū āmantesi—\n“anujānāmi, bhikkhave, dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhāya sikkhamānāya vuṭṭhānasammutiṁ dātuṁ.\nEvañca pana, bhikkhave, dātabbā.\nTāya dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhāya sikkhamānāya saṅghaṁ upasaṅkamitvā ekaṁsaṁ uttarāsaṅgaṁ karitvā bhikkhunīnaṁ pāde vanditvā ukkuṭikaṁ nisīditvā añjaliṁ paggahetvā evamassa vacanīyo—\n‘ahaṁ, ayye, itthannāmā itthannāmāya ayyāya dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhā sikkhamānā saṅghaṁ vuṭṭhānasammutiṁ yācāmī’ti.\nDutiyampi yācitabbā.\nTatiyampi yācitabbā.\nByattāya bhikkhuniyā paṭibalāya saṅgho ñāpetabbo—\n‘Suṇātu me, ayye, saṅgho.\nAyaṁ itthannāmā itthannāmāya ayyāya dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhā sikkhamānā saṅghaṁ vuṭṭhānasammutiṁ yācati.\nYadi saṅghassa pattakallaṁ, saṅgho itthannāmāya dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhāya sikkhamānāya vuṭṭhānasammutiṁ dadeyya.\nEsā ñatti.\nSuṇātu me, ayye, saṅgho.\nAyaṁ itthannāmā itthannāmāya ayyāya dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhā sikkhamānā saṅghaṁ vuṭṭhānasammutiṁ yācati.\nSaṅgho itthannāmāya dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhāya sikkhamānāya vuṭṭhānasammutiṁ deti.\nYassā ayyāya khamati itthannāmāya dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhāya sikkhamānāya vuṭṭhānasammutiyā dānaṁ, sā tuṇhassa;\nyassā nakkhamati, sā bhāseyya.\nDinnā saṅghena itthannāmāya dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhāya sikkhamānāya vuṭṭhānasammuti;\nkhamati saṅghassa, tasmā tuṇhī, evametaṁ dhārayāmī’”ti.\nAtha kho bhagavā tā bhikkhuniyo anekapariyāyena vigarahitvā dubbharatāya …pe…\nevañca pana, bhikkhave, bhikkhuniyo imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddisantu—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.36","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.36.0","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:1.36.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Final ruling\n‘If a nun gives the full admission to a trainee nun who has trained for two years in the six rules, but who has not been approved by the Sangha, she commits an offense entailing confession.’”","pi":"“Yā pana bhikkhunī dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhaṁ sikkhamānaṁ saṅghena asammataṁ vuṭṭhāpeyya, pācittiyan”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.0","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.1","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.2","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.3","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.4","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.5","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.6","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.7","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.8","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.9","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.10","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.11","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.12","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.13","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.14","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.15","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.16","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.17"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Definitions\nA:\nwhoever …\nNun:\n… The nun who has been given the full ordination in unanimity by both Sanghas through a legal procedure consisting of one motion and three announcements that is irreversible and fit to stand—this sort of nun is meant in this case.\nTwo years:\ntwo twelve-month periods.\nWho has trained:\nwho has trained in the six rules.\nWho has not been approved:\napproval to be fully admitted has not been given through a legal procedure consisting of one motion and one announcement.\nGives the full admission:\ngives the full ordination.\nIf, intending to give the full admission, she searches for a group, a teacher, a bowl, or a robe, or she establishes a monastery zone, she commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nAfter the motion, she commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nAfter each of the first two announcements, she commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nWhen the last announcement is finished, the preceptor commits an offense entailing confession,\nand the group and the teacher commit an offense of wrong conduct.","pi":"Yā panāti\nyā yādisā …pe…\nbhikkhunīti\n…pe… ayaṁ imasmiṁ atthe adhippetā bhikkhunīti.\nDve vassānīti\ndve saṁvaccharāni.\nSikkhitasikkhā nāma\nchasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhā.\nAsammatā nāma\nñattidutiyena kammena vuṭṭhānasammuti na dinnā hoti.\nVuṭṭhāpeyyāti\nupasampādeyya.\n“Vuṭṭhāpessāmī”ti gaṇaṁ vā ācariniṁ vā pattaṁ vā cīvaraṁ vā pariyesati, sīmaṁ vā sammannati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nÑattiyā dukkaṭaṁ.\nDvīhi kammavācāhi dukkaṭā.\nKammavācāpariyosāne upajjhāyāya āpatti pācittiyassa.\nGaṇassa ca ācariniyā ca āpatti dukkaṭassa."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.18","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.18.0","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.18.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Permutations\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure, and she perceives it as such, and she gives the full admission, she commits an offense entailing confession.","pi":"Dhammakamme dhammakammasaññā vuṭṭhāpeti, āpatti pācittiyassa."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2-from-pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64-2.19","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.19","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.20","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.21","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.22","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.23"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Dhammakamme vematikā vuṭṭhāpeti, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nDhammakamme adhammakammasaññā vuṭṭhāpeti, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme dhammakammasaññā, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAdhammakamme vematikā, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAdhammakamme adhammakammasaññā, āpatti dukkaṭassa.","en":"If it is a legitimate legal procedure, but she is unsure of it, and she gives the full admission, she commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure, but she perceives it as illegitimate, and she gives the full admission, she commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure, but she perceives it as legitimate, she commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure, but she is unsure of it, she commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure, and she perceives it as such, she commits an offense of wrong conduct."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.24","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.24.0","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.24.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Non-offenses\nThere is no offense:","pi":"Anāpatti—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2-from-pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64-2.25","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.25","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.26","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.27","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64:2.28"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"dve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhaṁ sikkhamānaṁ saṅghena sammataṁ vuṭṭhāpeti,\nummattikāya,\nādikammikāyāti.\nCatutthasikkhāpadaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ.","en":"if she gives the full admission to a trainee nun who has trained for two years in the six rules and who has been approved by the Sangha;\nif she is insane;\nif she is the first offender.\nThe fourth training rule is finished."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-bi-vb-pc64/en/brahmali","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}