{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78","title":"Not ordaining a trainee who has followed one","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Brahmāli · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78","title":"Not ordaining a trainee who has followed one","units":[{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:0.1","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:0.2","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:0.3","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:0.4","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:0.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Theravāda Vinaya\nBhikkhunivibhaṅga\nPācittiyakaṇḍa\nKumāribhūtavagga\n78. Dutiyasikkhamāna-navuṭṭhāpanasikkhāpada","en":"Theravāda Collection on Monastic Law\nThe Nuns’ Analysis\nThe chapter on offenses entailing confession\nThe subchapter on unmarried women\nNot ordaining a trainee who has followed one"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.0","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.1","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.2","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.3","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.4","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.5","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.6","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.7","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.8","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.9","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.10","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.11","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.12","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.13","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.14","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.15"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Origin story\nAt one time when the Buddha was staying at Sāvatthī in Anāthapiṇḍika’s Monastery,\na trainee nun went to the nun Thullanandā and asked for the full ordination.\nThullanandā told her, “If you follow me for two years, venerable, I’ll give you the full admission.” But she neither gave her the full admission nor made any effort to have her fully admitted.\nThat trainee nun told the nuns what had happened.\nThe nuns of few desires complained and criticized her,\n“How could Venerable Thullanandā say that to a trainee nun\nand then neither give her the full admission nor make any effort to have her fully admitted?” …\n“Is it true, monks, that the nun Thullanandā did this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\nThe Buddha rebuked her …\n“How could the nun Thullanandā act in this way?\nThis will affect people’s confidence …” …\n“And, monks, the nuns should recite this training rule like this:","pi":"Tena samayena buddho bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.\nTena kho pana samayena aññatarā sikkhamānā thullanandaṁ bhikkhuniṁ upasaṅkamitvā upasampadaṁ yāci.\nThullanandā bhikkhunī taṁ sikkhamānaṁ “sace maṁ tvaṁ, ayye, dve vassāni anubandhissasi evāhaṁ taṁ vuṭṭhāpessāmī”ti vatvā, neva vuṭṭhāpeti na vuṭṭhāpanāya ussukkaṁ karoti.\nAtha kho sā sikkhamānā bhikkhunīnaṁ etamatthaṁ ārocesi.\nYā tā bhikkhuniyo appicchā …pe… tā ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma ayyā thullanandā sikkhamānaṁ—\n‘sace maṁ tvaṁ, ayye, dve vassāni anubandhissasi evāhaṁ taṁ vuṭṭhāpessāmī’ti vatvā, neva vuṭṭhāpessati na vuṭṭhāpanāya ussukkaṁ karissatī”ti …pe…\n“saccaṁ kira, bhikkhave, thullanandā bhikkhunī sikkhamānaṁ—\n‘sace maṁ tvaṁ, ayye, dve vassāni anubandhissasi evāhaṁ taṁ vuṭṭhāpessāmī’ti vatvā, neva vuṭṭhāpeti na vuṭṭhāpanāya ussukkaṁ karotī”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\nVigarahi buddho bhagavā …pe…\nkathañhi nāma, bhikkhave, thullanandā bhikkhunī sikkhamānaṁ—\n‘sace maṁ tvaṁ, ayye, dve vassāni anubandhissasi evāhaṁ taṁ vuṭṭhāpessāmī’ti vatvā, neva vuṭṭhāpessati na vuṭṭhāpanāya ussukkaṁ karissati.\nNetaṁ, bhikkhave, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nevañca pana, bhikkhave, bhikkhuniyo imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddisantu—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.16","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.16.0","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:1.16.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Final ruling\n‘If a nun tells a trainee nun, “If you follow me for two years, venerable, I’ll give you the full admission,” but she then neither gives her the full admission nor makes any effort to have her fully admitted, then, if there were no obstacles, she commits an offense entailing confession.’”","pi":"“Yā pana bhikkhunī sikkhamānaṁ— ‘sace maṁ tvaṁ, ayye, dve vassāni anubandhissasi evāhaṁ taṁ vuṭṭhāpessāmī’ti vatvā, sā pacchā anantarāyikinī neva vuṭṭhāpeyya na vuṭṭhāpanāya ussukkaṁ kareyya, pācittiyan”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.0","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.1","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.2","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.3","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.4","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.5","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.6","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.7","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.8","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.9","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.10","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.11","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.12","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.13","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.14","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.15","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.16","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.17"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Definitions\nA:\nwhoever …\nNun:\n… The nun who has been given the full ordination in unanimity by both Sanghas through a legal procedure consisting of one motion and three announcements that is irreversible and fit to stand—this sort of nun is meant in this case.\nA trainee nun:\none who has trained for two years in the six rules.\n“If you follow me for two years, venerable”:\nif you attend on me for two twelve-month periods.\n“I’ll give you the full admission”:\nI’ll give you the full ordination.\nThen, if there were no obstacles:\nwhen there is no obstacle.\nShe neither gives her the full admission:\nshe does not herself give her the full admission.\nNor makes any effort to have her fully admitted:\nshe does not ask anyone else to give her the full admission.\nIf she thinks, “I’ll neither give her the full admission nor make any effort to have her fully admitted,” then by the mere fact of abandoning her duty, she commits an offense entailing confession.","pi":"Yā panāti\nyā yādisā …pe…\nbhikkhunīti\n…pe… ayaṁ imasmiṁ atthe adhippetā bhikkhunīti.\nSikkhamānā nāma\ndve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhā.\nSace maṁ tvaṁ, ayye, dve vassāni anubandhissasīti\ndve saṁvaccharāni upaṭṭhahissasi.\nEvāhaṁ taṁ vuṭṭhāpessāmīti\nevāhaṁ taṁ upasampādessāmi.\nSā pacchā anantarāyikinīti\nasati antarāye.\nNeva vuṭṭhāpeyyāti\nna sayaṁ vuṭṭhāpeyya.\nNa vuṭṭhāpanāya ussukkaṁ kareyyāti\nna aññaṁ āṇāpeyya.\n“Neva vuṭṭhāpessāmi na vuṭṭhāpanāya ussukkaṁ karissāmī”ti dhuraṁ nikkhittamatte āpatti pācittiyassa."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.18","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.18.0","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.18.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Non-offenses\nThere is no offense:","pi":"Anāpatti—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2-from-pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78-2.19","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.19","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.20","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.21","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.22","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.23","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.24","pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78:2.25"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"sati antarāye,\npariyesitvā na labhati,\ngilānāya,\nāpadāsu,\nummattikāya,\nādikammikāyāti.\nAṭṭhamasikkhāpadaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ.","en":"if there is an obstacle;\nif she searches for someone to give her the full ordination, but is unable to find anyone;\nif she is sick;\nif there is an emergency;\nif she is insane;\nif she is the first offender.\nThe eighth training rule is finished."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-bi-vb-pc78/en/brahmali","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}