{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np7","title":"Accepting too many robes","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Brahmāli · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np7","title":"Accepting too many robes","units":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:0.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:0.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:0.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:0.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Theravāda Vinaya\nMahāvibhaṅga\nNissaggiyakaṇḍa\nCīvaravagga\n7. Tatuttarisikkhāpada","en":"Theravāda Collection on Monastic Law\nThe Great Analysis\nThe chapter on relinquishment\nThe subchapter on robes\nAccepting too many robes"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.21","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.22","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.23","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.24","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.25","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.26","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.27","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.28","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.29","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.30"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Origin story\nAt one time when the Buddha was staying at Sāvatthī in Anāthapiṇḍika’s Monastery,\nthe monks from the group of six said to the monks whose robes had been stolen,\n“The Buddha has allowed\na monk whose robes have been stolen or lost to ask an unrelated householder for a robe.\nYou should ask for a robe.”\n“It’s not necessary. We’ve already gotten robes.”\n“We’ll ask for you.”\n“Do as you please.”\nThe monks from the group of six then went to householders and said,\n“Monks have arrived whose robes have been stolen.\nPlease give them robes.”\nAnd they asked for many robes.\nSoon afterwards in the public meeting hall a certain man said to another,\n“Sir, monks have arrived whose robes have been stolen.\nI’ve given them robes.”\nThe other replied, “So have I.”\nAnd another said the same.\nThey complained and criticized those monks,\n“How can the Sakyan monastics ask for many robes without moderation?\nAre they going to trade in cloth or set up shop?”\nThe monks heard the complaints of those people,\nand the monks of few desires complained and criticized those monks,\n“How could the monks from the group of six ask for many robes without moderation?”\nAfter rebuking those monks in many ways, they told the Buddha. Soon afterwards he had the Sangha gathered and questioned the monks:\n“Is it true, monks, that you did this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\nThe Buddha rebuked them …\n“Foolish men, how could you do this?\nThis will affect people’s confidence …” …\n“And, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:","pi":"Tena samayena buddho bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.\nTena kho pana samayena chabbaggiyā bhikkhū acchinnacīvarake bhikkhū upasaṅkamitvā evaṁ vadanti—\n“bhagavatā, āvuso, anuññātaṁ—\n‘acchinnacīvarassa vā naṭṭhacīvarassa vā aññātakaṁ gahapatiṁ vā gahapatāniṁ vā cīvaraṁ viññāpetuṁ’;\nviññāpetha, āvuso, cīvaran”ti.\n“Alaṁ, āvuso, laddhaṁ amhehi cīvaran”ti.\n“Mayaṁ āyasmantānaṁ viññāpemā”ti.\n“Viññāpetha, āvuso”ti.\nAtha kho chabbaggiyā bhikkhū gahapatike upasaṅkamitvā etadavocuṁ—\n“acchinnacīvarakā, āvuso, bhikkhū āgatā.\nDetha nesaṁ cīvarānī”ti,\nbahuṁ cīvaraṁ viññāpesuṁ.\nTena kho pana samayena aññataro puriso sabhāyaṁ nisinno aññataraṁ purisaṁ etadavoca—\n“acchinnacīvarakā ayyo bhikkhū āgatā.\nTesaṁ mayā cīvaraṁ dinnan”ti.\nSopi evamāha—“mayāpi dinnan”ti.\nAparopi evamāha—“mayāpi dinnan”ti.\nTe ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma samaṇā sakyaputtiyā na mattaṁ jānitvā bahuṁ cīvaraṁ viññāpessanti,\ndussavāṇijjaṁ vā samaṇā sakyaputtiyā karissanti, paggāhikasālaṁ vā pasāressantī”ti.\nAssosuṁ kho bhikkhū tesaṁ manussānaṁ ujjhāyantānaṁ khiyyantānaṁ vipācentānaṁ.\nYe te bhikkhū appicchā …pe… te ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma chabbaggiyā bhikkhū na mattaṁ jānitvā bahuṁ cīvaraṁ viññāpessantī”ti.\nAtha kho te bhikkhū chabbaggiye bhikkhū anekapariyāyena vigarahitvā bhagavato etamatthaṁ ārocesuṁ …pe…\n“saccaṁ kira tumhe, bhikkhave, na mattaṁ jānitvā bahuṁ cīvaraṁ viññāpethā”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\nVigarahi buddho bhagavā …pe…\nkathañhi nāma tumhe, moghapurisā, na mattaṁ jānitvā bahuṁ cīvaraṁ viññāpessatha.\nNetaṁ, moghapurisā, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nevañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.31","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.31.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:1.31.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Final ruling\n‘If an unrelated male or female householder invites that monk to take many robes, he should accept at most one sarong and one upper robe. If he accepts more than that, he commits an offense entailing relinquishment and confession.’”","pi":"“Tañce aññātako gahapati vā gahapatānī vā bahūhi cīvarehi abhihaṭṭhuṁ pavāreyya santaruttaraparamaṁ tena bhikkhunā tato cīvaraṁ sāditabbaṁ. Tato ce uttari sādiyeyya, nissaggiyaṁ pācittiyan”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.21","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.22","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.23","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.24","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.1.25"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Definitions\nThat monk:\nthe monk whose robes have been stolen.\nUnrelated:\nanyone who is not a descendant of one’s male ancestors going back eight generations, either on the mother’s side or on the father’s side.\nA male householder:\nany man who lives at home.\nA female householder:\nany woman who lives at home.\nMany robes:\na lot of robes.\nInvites to take:\nsaying, “Take as many as you like.”\nHe should accept at most one sarong and one upper robe:\nif three robes are lost, he should accept two; if two robes are lost, he should accept one; if one robe is lost, he should not accept any.\nIf he accepts more than that:\nif he asks for more than that, then for the effort there is an act of wrong conduct.\nWhen he gets the robe, it becomes subject to relinquishment.\nThe robe should be relinquished to a sangha, a group, or an individual.\n“And, monks, it should be relinquished like this. …”\n(To be expanded as in Bu NP 1:3.2.5–3.2.29, with appropriate substitutions.)\n“Venerables, this robe, which I received after asking an unrelated householder for too many, is to be relinquished.\nI relinquish it to the Sangha.” …\n“the Sangha should give …”\n“you should give …”\n“I give this robe back to you.”","pi":"Tañceti\nacchinnacīvarakaṁ bhikkhuṁ.\nAññātako nāma\nmātito vā pitito vā yāva sattamā pitāmahayugā asambaddho.\nGahapati nāma\nyo koci agāraṁ ajjhāvasati.\nGahapatānī nāma\nyā kāci agāraṁ ajjhāvasati.\nBahūhi cīvarehīti\nbahukehi cīvarehi.\nAbhihaṭṭhuṁ pavāreyyāti\nyāvatakaṁ icchasi tāvatakaṁ gaṇhāhīti.\nSantaruttaraparamaṁ tena bhikkhunā tato cīvaraṁ sāditabbanti\nsace tīṇi naṭṭhāni honti dve sāditabbāni, dve naṭṭhāni ekaṁ sāditabbaṁ, ekaṁ naṭṭhaṁ na kiñci sāditabbaṁ.\nTato ce uttari sādiyeyyāti\ntatuttari viññāpeti, payoge dukkaṭaṁ.\nPaṭilābhena nissaggiyaṁ hoti.\nNissajjitabbaṁ saṅghassa vā gaṇassa vā puggalassa vā.\nEvañca pana, bhikkhave, nissajjitabbaṁ.\n…pe…\n“idaṁ me, bhante, cīvaraṁ aññātakaṁ gahapatikaṁ upasaṅkamitvā tatuttari viññāpitaṁ nissaggiyaṁ.\nImāhaṁ saṅghassa nissajjāmī”ti …pe…\ndadeyyāti …pe…\ndadeyyunti …pe…\nāyasmato dammīti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.2.1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.2.1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.2.1.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Permutations\nIf the person is unrelated and the monk perceives them as such, and he asks them for too many robes, he commits an offense entailing relinquishment and confession.","pi":"Aññātake aññātakasaññī tatuttari cīvaraṁ viññāpeti, nissaggiyaṁ pācittiyaṁ."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.2.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Aññātake vematiko tatuttari cīvaraṁ viññāpeti, nissaggiyaṁ pācittiyaṁ.\nAññātake ñātakasaññī tatuttari cīvaraṁ viññāpeti, nissaggiyaṁ pācittiyaṁ.\nÑātake aññātakasaññī, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nÑātake vematiko, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nÑātake ñātakasaññī, anāpatti.","en":"If the person is unrelated, but the monk is unsure of it, and he asks them for too many robes, he commits an offense entailing relinquishment and confession.\nIf the person is unrelated, but the monk perceives them as related, and he asks them for too many robes, he commits an offense entailing relinquishment and confession.\nIf the person is related, but the monk perceives them as unrelated, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf the person is related, but the monk is unsure of it, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf the person is related and the monk perceives them as such, there is no offense."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-np7:2.3.11"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Non-offenses\nThere is no offense:\nif he takes too much, but with the intention of returning the remainder;\nif they give, saying, “The remainder is for you;”\nif they give, but not because his robes were stolen;\nif they give, but not because his robes were lost;\nif it is from relatives;\nif it is from those who have given an invitation;\nif it is by means of his own property;\nif he is insane;\nif he is the first offender.\nThe training rule on accepting too many robes, the seventh, is finished.","pi":"Anāpatti—\n“sesakaṁ āharissāmī”ti haranto gacchati,\n“sesakaṁ tuyheva hotū”ti denti,\nna acchinnakāraṇā denti,\nna naṭṭhakāraṇā denti,\nñātakānaṁ,\npavāritānaṁ,\nattano dhanena,\nummattakassa,\nādikammikassāti.\nTatuttarisikkhāpadaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ sattamaṁ."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-bu-vb-np7/en/brahmali","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}