{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np8","title":"Requesting a fine robe from a fund","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Brahmāli · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np8","title":"Requesting a fine robe from a fund","units":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:0.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:0.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:0.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:0.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Theravāda Vinaya\nMahāvibhaṅga\nNissaggiyakaṇḍa\nCīvaravagga\n8. Upakkhaṭasikkhāpada","en":"Theravāda Collection on Monastic Law\nThe Great Analysis\nThe chapter on relinquishment\nThe subchapter on robes\nRequesting a fine robe from a fund"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.21","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.22","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.23","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.24","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.25","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.26","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.27","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.28","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.29","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.30","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.31"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Origin story\nAt one time when the Buddha was staying at Sāvatthī in Anāthapiṇḍika’s Monastery,\na certain man said to his wife,\n“I’m going to give robe-cloth to Venerable Upananda.”\nAn alms-collecting monk heard that man making that statement.\nHe then went to Upananda the Sakyan and said,\n“Upananda, you have much merit.\nIn such-and-such a place I heard a man tell his wife\nthat he’s going to give you robe-cloth.”\n“He’s my supporter.”\nUpananda then went to that man and said,\n“Is it true that you want to give me robe-cloth?”\n“Yes,\nthat’s just what I was thinking.”\n“If that’s the case, give me such-and-such robe-cloth.\nFor what’s the point of giving robe-cloth that I won’t use?”\nThat man complained and criticized him,\n“These Sakyan monastics have great desires. They’re not content.\nIt’s no easy matter to give them robe-cloth.\nHow could Venerable Upananda come to me and say what kind of robe-cloth he wants without first being invited by me to do so?”\nThe monks heard the complaints of that man,\nand the monks of few desires complained and criticized him,\n“How could Venerable Upananda go to a householder and say what kind of robe-cloth he wants without first being invited to do so?”\nAfter rebuking him in many ways, they told the Buddha. Soon afterwards he had the Sangha gathered and questioned Upananda:\n“Is it true, Upananda, that you did this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\n“Is he a relative of yours?”\n“No.”\n“Foolish man, people who are unrelated don’t know what’s appropriate and inappropriate, what’s good and bad, in dealing with each other.\nAnd still you did this.\nThis will affect people’s confidence …” …\n“And, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:","pi":"Tena samayena buddho bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.\nTena kho pana samayena aññataro puriso pajāpatiṁ etadavoca—\n“ayyaṁ upanandaṁ cīvarena acchādessāmī”ti.\nAssosi kho aññataro piṇḍacāriko bhikkhu tassa purisassa imaṁ vācaṁ bhāsamānassa.\nAtha kho so bhikkhu yenāyasmā upanando sakyaputto tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā āyasmantaṁ upanandaṁ sakyaputtaṁ etadavoca—\n“mahāpuññosi tvaṁ, āvuso upananda.\nAmukasmiṁ okāse aññataro puriso pajāpatiṁ etadavoca—\n‘ayyaṁ upanandaṁ cīvarena acchādessāmī’”ti.\n“Atthāvuso, maṁ so upaṭṭhāko”ti.\nAtha kho āyasmā upanando sakyaputto yena so puriso tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā taṁ purisaṁ etadavoca—\n“saccaṁ kira maṁ tvaṁ, āvuso, cīvarena acchādetukāmosī”ti?\n“Api meyya, evaṁ hoti—\n‘ayyaṁ upanandaṁ cīvarena acchādessāmī’”ti.\n“Sace kho maṁ tvaṁ, āvuso, cīvarena acchādetukāmosi, evarūpena cīvarena acchādehi.\nKyāhaṁ tena acchannopi karissāmi yāhaṁ na paribhuñjissāmī”ti.\nAtha kho so puriso ujjhāyati khiyyati vipāceti—\n“mahicchā ime samaṇā sakyaputtiyā asantuṭṭhā.\nNayime sukarā cīvarena acchādetuṁ.\nKathañhi nāma ayyo upanando mayā pubbe appavārito maṁ upasaṅkamitvā cīvare vikappaṁ āpajjissatī”ti.\nAssosuṁ kho bhikkhū tassa purisassa ujjhāyantassa khiyyantassa vipācentassa.\nYe te bhikkhū appicchā …pe… te ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma āyasmā upanando sakyaputto pubbe appavārito gahapatikaṁ upasaṅkamitvā cīvare vikappaṁ āpajjissatī”ti.\nAtha kho te bhikkhū āyasmantaṁ upanandaṁ sakyaputtaṁ anekapariyāyena vigarahitvā bhagavato etamatthaṁ ārocesuṁ …pe…\n“saccaṁ kira tvaṁ, upananda, pubbe appavārito gahapatikaṁ upasaṅkamitvā cīvare vikappaṁ āpajjasī”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\n“Ñātako te, upananda, aññātako”ti?\n“Aññātako, bhagavā”ti.\n“Aññātako, moghapurisa, aññātakassa na jānāti patirūpaṁ vā appatirūpaṁ vā santaṁ vā asantaṁ vā.\nTattha nāma tvaṁ, moghapurisa, pubbe appavārito aññātakaṁ gahapatikaṁ upasaṅkamitvā cīvare vikappaṁ āpajjissasi.\nNetaṁ, moghapurisa, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nevañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.32","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.32.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.32.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Final ruling\n‘If a male or female householder has set aside a robe fund for an unrelated monk, thinking,","pi":"“Bhikkhuṁ paneva uddissa aññātakassa gahapatissa vā gahapatāniyā vā cīvaracetāpannaṁ upakkhaṭaṁ hoti—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1-from-pli-tv-bu-vb-np8-1.1.33","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.33","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.34","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.35","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:1.1.36"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘iminā cīvaracetāpannena cīvaraṁ cetāpetvā itthannāmaṁ bhikkhuṁ cīvarena acchādessāmī’ti;\ntatra ce so bhikkhu pubbe appavārito upasaṅkamitvā cīvare vikappaṁ āpajjeyya—\n‘sādhu vata maṁ āyasmā iminā cīvaracetāpannena evarūpaṁ vā evarūpaṁ vā cīvaraṁ cetāpetvā acchādehī’ti,\nkalyāṇakamyataṁ upādāya, nissaggiyaṁ pācittiyan”ti.","en":"“With this robe fund I will buy robe-cloth and give it to monk so-and-so;”\nand if that monk, without first being invited, goes to them and specifies the kind of robe-cloth he wants, saying,\n“Please use this robe fund to buy such-and-such robe-cloth and then give it to me,”\nand he does so because he wants something fine, he commits an offense entailing relinquishment and confession.’”"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.21","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.22","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.23","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.24","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.25","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.26","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.27","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.28","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.29","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.30","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.31","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.32","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.33","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.34","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.35","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.36","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.37","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.38","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.39","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.40","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.41","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.42","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.43","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.1.44"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Definitions\nFor a monk:\nfor the benefit of a monk; making a monk the object of consideration, one wants to give to him.\nUnrelated:\nanyone who is not a descendant of one’s male ancestors going back eight generations, either on the mother’s side or on the father’s side.\nA male householder:\nany man who lives at home.\nA female householder:\nany woman who lives at home.\nA robe fund:\nmoney, gold, a pearl, a gem, a coral, a crystal, cloth, thread, or cotton wool.\nWith this robe fund:\nwith that which is at one’s disposal.\nI will buy:\nhaving traded.\nI will give:\nI will donate.\nIf that monk:\nthe monk the robe fund has been set aside for.\nWithout first being invited:\nhe or she has not said beforehand: “Venerable, what kind of robe-cloth do you need? What kind of robe-cloth can I buy for you?”\nGoes to them:\nhaving gone to their house or having gone wherever.\nSpecifies the kind of robe-cloth he wants:\nplease make it long or wide or closely woven or soft.\nThis robe fund:\nthat which is at one’s disposal.\nSuch-and-such:\nlong or wide or closely woven or soft.\nTo buy:\nhaving traded.\nGive:\ndonate.\nBecause he wants something fine:\nwanting something good, wanting something expensive.\nIf that householder buys robe-cloth that is long, wide, closely woven, or soft because of the monk’s statement, then for the effort there is an act of wrong conduct.\nWhen he gets the robe-cloth, it becomes subject to relinquishment.\nThe robe-cloth should be relinquished to a sangha, a group, or an individual.\n“And, monks, it should be relinquished like this. …”\n(To be expanded as in Bu NP 1:3.2.5–3.2.29, with appropriate substitutions.)\n“Venerables, this robe-cloth, which I received after going to an unrelated householder and saying what kind of robe-cloth I wanted without first being invited, is to be relinquished.\nI relinquish it to the Sangha.” …\n“the Sangha should give …”\n“you should give …”\n“I give this robe-cloth back to you.”","pi":"Bhikkhuṁ paneva uddissāti\nbhikkhussatthāya, bhikkhuṁ ārammaṇaṁ karitvā, bhikkhuṁ acchādetukāmo.\nAññātako nāma\nmātito vā pitito vā yāva sattamā pitāmahayugā asambaddho.\nGahapati nāma\nyo koci agāraṁ ajjhāvasati.\nGahapatānī nāma\nyā kāci agāraṁ ajjhāvasati.\nCīvaracetāpannaṁ nāma\nhiraññaṁ vā suvaṇṇaṁ vā muttā vā maṇi vā pavāḷo vā phaliko vā paṭako vā suttaṁ vā kappāso vā.\nIminā cīvaracetāpannenāti\npaccupaṭṭhitena.\nCetāpetvāti\nparivattetvā.\nAcchādessāmīti\ndassāmi.\nTatra ce so bhikkhūti\nyaṁ bhikkhuṁ uddissa cīvaracetāpannaṁ upakkhaṭaṁ hoti so bhikkhu.\nPubbe appavāritoti\npubbe avutto hoti— “kīdisena te, bhante, cīvarena attho, kīdisaṁ te cīvaraṁ cetāpemī”ti?\nUpasaṅkamitvāti\ngharaṁ gantvā yattha katthaci upasaṅkamitvā.\nCīvare vikappaṁ āpajjeyyāti\nāyataṁ vā hotu vitthataṁ vā appitaṁ vā saṇhaṁ vā.\nIminā cīvaracetāpannenāti\npaccupaṭṭhitena.\nEvarūpaṁ vā evarūpaṁ vāti.\nĀyataṁ vā vitthataṁ vā appitaṁ vā saṇhaṁ vā.\nCetāpetvāti\nparivattetvā.\nAcchādehīti\ndajjehi.\nKalyāṇakamyataṁ upādāyāti\nsādhatthiko mahagghatthiko.\nTassa vacanena āyataṁ vā vitthataṁ vā appitaṁ vā saṇhaṁ vā cetāpeti, payoge dukkaṭaṁ.\nPaṭilābhena nissaggiyaṁ hoti.\nNissajjitabbaṁ saṅghassa vā gaṇassa vā puggalassa vā.\nEvañca pana, bhikkhave, nissajjitabbaṁ.\n…pe…\n“idaṁ me, bhante, cīvaraṁ pubbe appavārito aññātakaṁ gahapatikaṁ upasaṅkamitvā cīvare vikappaṁ āpannaṁ nissaggiyaṁ,\nimāhaṁ saṅghassa nissajjāmī”ti …pe…\ndadeyyāti …pe…\ndadeyyunti …pe…\nāyasmato dammīti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.2.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Permutations\nIf the householder is unrelated and the monk perceives them as such, and, without first being invited, he goes to them and specifies the kind of robe-cloth he wants, he commits an offense entailing relinquishment and confession.\nIf the householder is unrelated, but the monk is unsure of it, and, without first being invited, he goes to them and specifies the kind of robe-cloth he wants, he commits an offense entailing relinquishment and confession.\nIf the householder is unrelated, but the monk perceives them as related, and, without first being invited, he goes to them and specifies the kind of robe-cloth he wants, he commits an offense entailing relinquishment and confession.\nIf the householder is related, but the monk perceives them as unrelated, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf the householder is related, but the monk is unsure of it, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf the householder is related and the monk perceives them as such, there is no offense.","pi":"Aññātake aññātakasaññī pubbe appavārito gahapatikaṁ upasaṅkamitvā cīvare vikappaṁ āpajjati, nissaggiyaṁ pācittiyaṁ.\nAññātake vematiko pubbe appavārito gahapatikaṁ upasaṅkamitvā cīvare vikappaṁ āpajjati, nissaggiyaṁ pācittiyaṁ.\nAññātake ñātakasaññī pubbe appavārito gahapatikaṁ upasaṅkamitvā cīvare vikappaṁ āpajjati, nissaggiyaṁ pācittiyaṁ.\nÑātake aññātakasaññī, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nÑātake vematiko, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nÑātake ñātakasaññī, anāpatti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-np8:2.3.9"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Non-offenses\nThere is no offense:\nif it is from relatives;\nif it is from those who have given an invitation;\nif it is for the benefit of another;\nif it is by means of his own property;\nif the householder wishes to buy something expensive, but the monk has them buy something inexpensive;\nif he is insane;\nif he is the first offender.\nThe training rule on requesting a fine robe from a fund, the eighth, is finished.","pi":"Anāpatti—\nñātakānaṁ,\npavāritānaṁ,\naññassatthāya,\nattano dhanena,\nmahagghaṁ cetāpetukāmassa appagghaṁ cetāpeti,\nummattakassa,\nādikammikassāti.\nUpakkhaṭasikkhāpadaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ aṭṭhamaṁ."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-bu-vb-np8/en/brahmali","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}