{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21","title":"Instructing nuns without approval","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Brahmāli · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21","title":"Instructing nuns without approval","units":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:0.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:0.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:0.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:0.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Theravāda Vinaya\nMahāvibhaṅga\nPācittiyakaṇḍa\nOvādavagga\n21. Ovādasikkhāpada","en":"Theravāda Collection on Monastic Law\nThe Great Analysis\nThe chapter on offenses entailing confession\nThe subchapter on the instruction\nInstructing nuns without approval"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.0.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Origin story\nFirst substory"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.21","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.22","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.23","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.24","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.25","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.26","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.27","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.28","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.29","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.30","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.31","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.32","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.33","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.34","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.35","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.36","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.37","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.38","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.39","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.40","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.41","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.42","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.43"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tena samayena buddho bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.\nTena kho pana samayena therā bhikkhū bhikkhuniyo ovadantā lābhino honti cīvarapiṇḍapātasenāsanagilānappaccayabhesajjaparikkhārānaṁ.\nAtha kho chabbaggiyānaṁ bhikkhūnaṁ etadahosi—\n“etarahi kho, āvuso, therā bhikkhū bhikkhuniyo ovadantā lābhino honti cīvarapiṇḍapātasenāsanagilānappaccayabhesajjaparikkhārānaṁ.\nHandāvuso, mayampi bhikkhuniyo ovadāmā”ti.\nAtha kho chabbaggiyā bhikkhū bhikkhuniyo upasaṅkamitvā etadavocuṁ—“amhepi, bhaginiyo, upasaṅkamatha; mayampi ovadissāmā”ti.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo yena chabbaggiyā bhikkhū tenupasaṅkamiṁsu;\nupasaṅkamitvā chabbaggiye bhikkhū abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdiṁsu.\nAtha kho chabbaggiyā bhikkhū bhikkhunīnaṁ parittaññeva dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā divasaṁ tiracchānakathāya vītināmetvā uyyojesuṁ—“gacchatha, bhaginiyo”ti.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkamiṁsu; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ aṭṭhaṁsu. Ekamantaṁ ṭhitā kho tā bhikkhuniyo bhagavā etadavoca—“kacci, bhikkhuniyo, ovādo iddho ahosī”ti?\n“Kuto, bhante, ovādo iddho bhavissati.\nAyyā chabbaggiyā parittaññeva dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā divasaṁ tiracchānakathāya vītināmetvā uyyojesun”ti.\nAtha kho bhagavā tā bhikkhuniyo dhammiyā kathāya sandassesi samādapesi samuttejesi sampahaṁsesi.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo bhagavatā dhammiyā kathāya sandassitā samādapitā samuttejitā sampahaṁsitā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā padakkhiṇaṁ katvā pakkamiṁsu.\nAtha kho bhagavā etasmiṁ nidāne etasmiṁ pakaraṇe bhikkhusaṅghaṁ sannipātāpetvā chabbaggiye bhikkhū paṭipucchi—\n“saccaṁ kira tumhe, bhikkhave, bhikkhunīnaṁ parittaññeva dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā divasaṁ tiracchānakathāya vītināmetvā uyyojethā”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\nVigarahi buddho bhagavā …pe…\nkathañhi nāma tumhe, moghapurisā, bhikkhunīnaṁ parittaññeva dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā divasaṁ tiracchānakathāya vītināmetvā uyyojessatha.\nNetaṁ, moghapurisā, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nvigarahitvā …pe…\ndhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā bhikkhū āmantesi—\n“anujānāmi, bhikkhave, bhikkhunovādakaṁ sammannituṁ.\nEvañca pana, bhikkhave, sammannitabbo.\nPaṭhamaṁ bhikkhu yācitabbo.\nYācitvā byattena bhikkhunā paṭibalena saṅgho ñāpetabbo—\n‘Suṇātu me, bhante, saṅgho.\nYadi saṅghassa pattakallaṁ, saṅgho itthannāmaṁ bhikkhuṁ bhikkhunovādakaṁ sammanneyya.\nEsā ñatti.\nSuṇātu me, bhante, saṅgho.\nSaṅgho itthannāmaṁ bhikkhuṁ bhikkhunovādakaṁ sammannati.\nYassāyasmato khamati itthannāmassa bhikkhuno bhikkhunovādakassa sammuti, so tuṇhassa;\nyassa nakkhamati, so bhāseyya.\nDutiyampi etamatthaṁ vadāmi …pe…\ntatiyampi etamatthaṁ vadāmi—\nsuṇātu me, bhante, saṅgho.\nSaṅgho itthannāmaṁ bhikkhuṁ bhikkhunovādakaṁ sammannati.\nYassāyasmato khamati itthannāmassa bhikkhuno bhikkhunovādakassa sammuti, so tuṇhassa;\nyassa nakkhamati, so bhāseyya.\nSammato saṅghena itthannāmo bhikkhu bhikkhunovādako.\nKhamati saṅghassa, tasmā tuṇhī, evametaṁ dhārayāmī’”ti.\nAtha kho bhagavā chabbaggiye bhikkhū anekapariyāyena vigarahitvā dubbharatāya …pe…\nevañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha—","en":"At one time the Buddha was staying at Sāvatthī in the Jeta Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s Monastery.\nAt that time the senior monks who were instructing the nuns received robe-cloth, almsfood, dwellings, and medicinal supplies.\nWhen the monks from the group of six found out about this,\nthey thought, “Well then, let’s instruct the nuns.”\nThey then went to the nuns and said, “Come to us, sisters, and we too will instruct you.”\nSoon afterwards those nuns went to the monks from the group of six,\nbowed, and sat down.\nBut after giving just a short teaching, those monks spent the day on worldly talk. They then dismissed the nuns, saying, “Go, sisters.”\nThe nuns went to the Buddha and bowed, and the Buddha said to them, “Nuns, I hope the instruction was effective?”\n“Sir, how could the instruction be effective?\nAfter giving just a short teaching, the monks from the group of six spent the day on worldly talk, and then dismissed us.”\nThe Buddha instructed, inspired, and gladdened those nuns with a teaching.\nThe nuns bowed, circumambulated the Buddha with their right sides toward him, and left.\nSoon afterwards the Buddha had the Sangha gathered and questioned the monks from the group of six:\n“Is it true, monks, that you acted like this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\nThe Buddha rebuked them …\n“Foolish men, how could you act like this?\nThis will affect people’s confidence …”\nAfter rebuking them …\nhe gave a teaching and addressed the monks:\n“Monks, you should appoint an instructor of the nuns.\nAnd he should be appointed like this.\nFirst a monk should be asked\nand then a competent and capable monk should inform the Sangha:\n‘Please, venerables, I ask the Sangha to listen.\nIf the Sangha is ready, it should appoint monk so-and-so as an instructor of the nuns.\nThis is the motion.\nPlease, venerables, I ask the Sangha to listen.\nThe Sangha appoints monk so-and-so as an instructor of the nuns.\nAny monk who approves of appointing monk so-and-so as an instructor of the nuns should remain silent.\nAny monk who doesn’t approve should speak up.\nFor the second time, I speak on this matter. …\nFor the third time, I speak on this matter.\nPlease, venerables, I ask the Sangha to listen.\nThe Sangha appoints monk so-and-so as an instructor of the nuns.\nAny monk who approves of appointing monk so-and-so as an instructor of the nuns should remain silent.\nAny monk who doesn’t approve should speak up.\nThe Sangha has appointed monk so-and-so as an instructor of the nuns.\nThe Sangha approves and is therefore silent. I will remember it thus.’”\nThen, after rebuking the monks from the group of six in many ways, the Buddha spoke in dispraise of being difficult to support …\n“And, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.44","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.44.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.44.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Final ruling\n‘If a monk who has not been appointed instructs the nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.’”","pi":"“Yo pana bhikkhu asammato bhikkhuniyo ovadeyya pācittiyan”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1-from-pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21-1.45","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:1.45"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evañcidaṁ bhagavatā bhikkhūnaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ paññattaṁ hoti.","en":"In this way the Buddha laid down this training rule for the monks."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.21","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.22","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.23","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.24","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.25","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.26","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.27","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.28","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.29","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.30","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.31","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.32","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.33","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.34","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:2.35"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Second substory\nAfter being appointed to do so, the senior monks who instructed the nuns still received robe-cloth, almsfood, dwellings, and medicinal supplies.\nWhen they found out about this, the monks from the group of six said,\n“Well then, let’s go outside the monastery zone, appoint each other as instructors of the nuns, and then instruct them.”\nAfter doing just that, they again went to the nuns and said, “Sisters, we too have been appointed.\nCome to us, and we will instruct you.”\nOnce again the nuns went to the monks from the group of six and everything unfolded as before.\nThe Buddha then had the Sangha gathered and questioned the monks from the group of six:\n“Is it true, monks, that you acted like this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\nThe Buddha rebuked them …\n“Foolish men, how could you act like this?\nThis will affect people’s confidence …”\nAfter rebuking them …\nhe gave a teaching and addressed the monks:\n“Monks, you may appoint a monk who possesses eight qualities as an instructor of the nuns:\nHe is virtuous and restrained by the Monastic Code. His conduct is good, he associates with the right people, and he sees danger in minor faults. He undertakes and trains in the training rules.\nHe has learned much, and he retains and accumulates what he has learned. Those teachings that are good in the beginning, good in the middle, and good in the end, that have a true goal and are well articulated, and that set out the perfectly complete and pure spiritual life—he has learned many such teachings, retained them in mind, recited them verbally, mentally investigated them, and penetrated them well by view.\nHe has properly learned both Monastic Codes in detail. He has analyzed them well, thoroughly mastered them, and investigated them well, both in terms of the rules and their detailed exposition.\nHe is well-spoken and has a good voice.\nHe is generally liked by and pleasing to the nuns.\nHe is capable of instructing the nuns.\nHe has never committed a heavy offense against a Buddhist nun.\nHe has been fully ordained for at least twenty years.\nMonks, you may appoint a monk who possesses these eight qualities as an instructor of the nuns.”","pi":"Tena kho pana samayena therā bhikkhū sammatā bhikkhuniyo ovadantā tatheva lābhino honti cīvarapiṇḍapātasenāsanagilānappaccayabhesajjaparikkhārānaṁ.\nAtha kho chabbaggiyānaṁ bhikkhūnaṁ etadahosi—\n“etarahi kho, āvuso, therā bhikkhū sammatā bhikkhuniyo ovadantā tatheva lābhino honti cīvarapiṇḍapātasenāsanagilānappaccayabhesajjaparikkhārānaṁ.\nHandāvuso, mayampi nissīmaṁ gantvā aññamaññaṁ bhikkhunovādakaṁ sammannitvā bhikkhuniyo ovadāmā”ti.\nAtha kho chabbaggiyā bhikkhū nissīmaṁ gantvā aññamaññaṁ bhikkhunovādakaṁ sammannitvā bhikkhuniyo upasaṅkamitvā etadavocuṁ—“mayampi, bhaginiyo, sammatā.\nAmhepi upasaṅkamatha. Mayampi ovadissāmā”ti.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo yena chabbaggiyā bhikkhū tenupasaṅkamiṁsu; upasaṅkamitvā chabbaggiye bhikkhū abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdiṁsu.\nAtha kho chabbaggiyā bhikkhū bhikkhunīnaṁ parittaññeva dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā divasaṁ tiracchānakathāya vītināmetvā uyyojesuṁ—\n“gacchatha, bhaginiyo”ti.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkamiṁsu;\nupasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ aṭṭhaṁsu.\nEkamantaṁ ṭhitā kho tā bhikkhuniyo bhagavā etadavoca—\n“kacci, bhikkhuniyo, ovādo iddho ahosī”ti?\n“Kuto, bhante, ovādo iddho bhavissati.\nAyyā chabbaggiyā parittaññeva dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā divasaṁ tiracchānakathāya vītināmetvā uyyojesun”ti.\nAtha kho bhagavā tā bhikkhuniyo dhammiyā kathāya sandassesi …pe…\natha kho tā bhikkhuniyo bhagavatā dhammiyā kathāya sandassitā samādapitā samuttejitā sampahaṁsitā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā padakkhiṇaṁ katvā pakkamiṁsu.\nAtha kho bhagavā etasmiṁ nidāne etasmiṁ pakaraṇe bhikkhusaṅghaṁ sannipātāpetvā chabbaggiye bhikkhū paṭipucchi—\n“saccaṁ kira tumhe, bhikkhave, bhikkhunīnaṁ parittaññeva dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā divasaṁ tiracchānakathāya vītināmetvā uyyojethā”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\nVigarahi buddho bhagavā …pe…\nkathañhi nāma tumhe, moghapurisā, bhikkhunīnaṁ parittaññeva dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā divasaṁ tiracchānakathāya vītināmetvā uyyojessatha.\nNetaṁ, moghapurisā, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nvigarahitvā …pe…\ndhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā bhikkhū āmantesi—\n“anujānāmi, bhikkhave, aṭṭhahaṅgehi samannāgataṁ bhikkhuṁ bhikkhunovādakaṁ sammannituṁ.\nSīlavā hoti, pātimokkhasaṁvarasaṁvuto viharati ācāragocarasampanno aṇumattesu vajjesu bhayadassāvī, samādāya sikkhati sikkhāpadesu;\nbahussuto hoti sutadharo sutasannicayo, ye te dhammā ādikalyāṇā majjhekalyāṇā pariyosānakalyāṇā sātthaṁ sabyañjanaṁ kevalaparipuṇṇaṁ parisuddhaṁ brahmacariyaṁ abhivadanti tathārūpāssa dhammā bahussutā honti dhātā vacasā paricitā manasā anupekkhitā diṭṭhiyā suppaṭividdhā;\nubhayāni kho panassa pātimokkhāni vitthārena svāgatāni honti suvibhattāni suppavattīni suvinicchitāni suttaso anubyañjanaso;\nkalyāṇavāco hoti kalyāṇavākkaraṇo;\nyebhuyyena bhikkhunīnaṁ piyo hoti manāpo;\npaṭibalo hoti bhikkhuniyo ovadituṁ;\nna kho panetaṁ bhagavantaṁ uddissa pabbajitāya kāsāyavatthavasanāya garudhammaṁ ajjhāpannapubbo hoti;\nvīsativasso vā hoti atirekavīsativasso vā—\nanujānāmi, bhikkhave, imehi aṭṭhahaṅgehi samannāgataṁ bhikkhuṁ bhikkhunovādakaṁ sammannitun”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.21","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.22","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.23","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.24","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.25","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.26","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.27","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.28","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.29","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.30","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.31","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.32","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.33","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.34","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.35","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.36","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.37","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.38","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.39","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.1.40"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Definitions\nA:\nwhoever …\nMonk:\n… The monk who has been given the full ordination by a unanimous Sangha through a legal procedure consisting of one motion and three announcements that is irreversible and fit to stand—this sort of monk is meant in this case.\nWho has not been appointed:\nwho has not been appointed through a legal procedure consisting of one motion and three announcements.\nThe nuns:\nthey have been given the full ordination by both Sanghas.\nInstructs:\nif he instructs in the eight important principles, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf he instructs in any other teaching, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf he instructs a nun who is fully ordained only on one side, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nThe monk who has been appointed should sweep the yard, set out water for drinking and water for washing, prepare a seat, get hold of a companion, and then sit down.\nThe nuns should go there, bow down to the monk, and sit down.\nThe monk should then ask them,\n“Are you all here, sisters?”\nIf they say, “We’re all here, venerable,” he should say, “Are you keeping the eight important principles?”\nIf they say, “We are,” he should say, “This is the instruction.”\nIf they say, “We’re not,” he should recite the important principles:\n“A nun who has been fully ordained for a hundred years should bow down to a monk who was given the full ordination on that very day, and she should stand up for him, raise her joined palms to him, and do acts of respect toward him.\nThis principle is to be honored and respected all one’s life, and is not to be breached.\nA nun shouldn’t spend the rainy-season residence in a monastery without monks.\nThis principle too is to be honored and respected all one’s life, and is not to be breached.\nEvery half-month a nun should seek two things from the Sangha of monks:\nasking it about the observance day and going to it for the instruction.\nThis principle too is to be honored and respected all one’s life, and is not to be breached.\nA nun who has completed the rainy-season residence should invite correction from both Sanghas in regard to three things:\nwhat has been seen, heard, or suspected.\nThis principle too is to be honored and respected all one’s life, and is not to be breached.\nA nun who has committed a heavy offense must undertake a trial period for a half-month toward both Sanghas.\nThis principle too is to be honored and respected all one’s life, and is not to be breached.\nA trainee nun who has trained for two years in the six rules may seek for full ordination in both Sanghas.\nThis principle too is to be honored and respected all one’s life, and is not to be breached.\nA nun may not in any way abuse or revile a monk.\nThis principle too is to be honored and respected all one’s life, and is not to be breached.\nFrom today onwards, nuns may not correct monks, but monks may correct nuns.\nThis principle too is to be honored and respected all one’s life, and is not to be breached.”\nIf they say, “We’re all here, venerable,” and he instructs them with another teaching, then he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf they say, “We’re not all here, venerable,” and he instructs them in the eight important principles, then he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf he does not give the instruction, but he gives them another teaching, then he commits an offense of wrong conduct.","pi":"Yo panāti\nyo yādiso …pe…\nbhikkhūti\n…pe… ayaṁ imasmiṁ atthe adhippeto bhikkhūti.\nAsammato nāma\nñatticatutthena kammena asammato.\nBhikkhuniyo nāma\nubhatosaṅghe upasampannā.\nOvadeyyāti\naṭṭhahi garudhammehi ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAññena dhammena ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nEkatoupasampannaṁ ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nTena sammatena bhikkhunā pariveṇaṁ sammajjitvā pānīyaṁ paribhojanīyaṁ upaṭṭhāpetvā āsanaṁ paññapetvā dutiyaṁ gahetvā nisīditabbaṁ.\nBhikkhunīhi tattha gantvā taṁ bhikkhuṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīditabbaṁ.\nTena bhikkhunā pucchitabbā—\n“samaggāttha, bhaginiyo”ti?\nSace “samaggāmhāyyā”ti bhaṇanti, “vattanti, bhaginiyo, aṭṭha garudhammā”ti?\nSace “vattantāyyā”ti bhaṇanti, “eso, bhaginiyo, ovādo”ti niyyādetabbo.\nSace “na vattantāyyā”ti bhaṇanti, osāretabbā.\n“Vassasatūpasampannāya bhikkhuniyā tadahupasampannassa bhikkhuno abhivādanaṁ paccuṭṭhānaṁ añjalikammaṁ sāmīcikammaṁ kātabbaṁ;\nayampi dhammo sakkatvā garukatvā mānetvā pūjetvā yāvajīvaṁ anatikkamanīyo.\nNa bhikkhuniyā abhikkhuke āvāse vassaṁ vasitabbaṁ;\nayampi dhammo sakkatvā garukatvā mānetvā pūjetvā yāvajīvaṁ anatikkamanīyo.\nAnvaddhamāsaṁ bhikkhuniyā bhikkhusaṅghato dve dhammā paccāsīsitabbā\nuposathapucchakañca ovādūpasaṅkamanañca,\nayampi dhammo …pe…\nvassaṁ vuṭṭhāya bhikkhuniyā ubhatosaṅghe tīhi ṭhānehi pavāretabbaṁ\ndiṭṭhena vā sutena vā parisaṅkāya vā;\nayampi dhammo …pe…\ngarudhammaṁ ajjhāpannāya bhikkhuniyā ubhatosaṅghe pakkhamānattaṁ caritabbaṁ;\nayampi dhammo …pe…\ndve vassāni chasu dhammesu sikkhitasikkhāya sikkhamānāya ubhatosaṅghe upasampadā pariyesitabbā;\nayampi dhammo …pe…\nna bhikkhuniyā kenaci pariyāyena bhikkhu akkositabbo paribhāsitabbo;\nayampi dhammo …pe…\najjatagge ovaṭo bhikkhunīnaṁ bhikkhūsu vacanapatho, anovaṭo bhikkhūnaṁ bhikkhunīsu vacanapatho;\nayampi dhammo sakkatvā garukatvā mānetvā pūjetvā yāvajīvaṁ anatikkamanīyo”ti.\nSace “samaggāmhāyyā”ti bhaṇantaṁ aññaṁ dhammaṁ bhaṇati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nSace “vaggāmhāyyā”ti bhaṇantaṁ aṭṭha garudhamme bhaṇati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nOvādaṁ aniyyādetvā aññaṁ dhammaṁ bhaṇati, āpatti dukkaṭassa."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.21","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.22","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.23","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.24","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.25","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.26","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.27","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.28","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.29","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.30","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.31","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.32","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.33","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.34","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.35","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.2.36"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Permutations\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he perceives it as complete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he perceives it as complete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as legitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as legitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as legitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he perceives it as complete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he perceives it as incomplete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is complete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he perceives it as incomplete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is complete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as legitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he perceives it as incomplete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as legitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is an illegitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as legitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is complete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as illegitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as illegitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as illegitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he perceives it as complete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he perceives it as complete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is incomplete but he perceives it as complete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as illegitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he perceives it as incomplete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as illegitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he perceives it as illegitimate, and the Sangha of nuns is complete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he perceives it as incomplete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure but he is unsure of it, and the Sangha of nuns is complete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he perceives it as incomplete, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is complete but he is unsure of it, then if he instructs those nuns, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf it is a legitimate legal procedure and he perceives it as such, and the Sangha of nuns is complete and he perceives it as such, then if he instructs those nuns, there is no offense.","pi":"Adhammakamme adhammakammasaññī vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme adhammakammasaññī vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vematiko ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme adhammakammasaññī vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ samaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme vematiko vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme vematiko vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vematiko ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme vematiko vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ samaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme dhammakammasaññī vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme dhammakammasaññī vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vematiko ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme dhammakammasaññī vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ samaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme adhammakammasaññī samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme adhammakammasaññī samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vematiko ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme adhammakammasaññī samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ samaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme vematiko samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati …pe…\nvematiko ovadati …pe…\nsamaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAdhammakamme dhammakammasaññī samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati …pe…\nvematiko ovadati …pe…\nsamaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nDhammakamme adhammakammasaññī vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nDhammakamme adhammakammasaññī vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vematiko ovadati …pe…\nsamaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nDhammakamme vematiko vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati …pe…\nvematiko ovadati …pe…\nsamaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nDhammakamme dhammakammasaññī vaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati …pe…\nvematiko ovadati …pe…\nsamaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nDhammakamme adhammakammasaññī samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati …pe…\nvematiko ovadati …pe…\nsamaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nDhammakamme vematiko samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati …pe…\nvematiko ovadati …pe…\nsamaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nDhammakamme dhammakammasaññī samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vaggasaññī ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nDhammakamme dhammakammasaññī samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ vematiko ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nDhammakamme dhammakammasaññī samaggaṁ bhikkhunisaṅghaṁ samaggasaññī ovadati, anāpatti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21:3.3.12"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Non-offenses\nThere is no offense:\nif he recites;\nif he tests them;\nif he recites when asked to do so;\nif he asks a question;\nif he replies when asked a question;\nif he is speaking for the benefit of someone else and the nuns listen in;\nif it is to a trainee nun;\nif it is to a novice nun;\nif he is insane;\nif he is the first offender.\nThe training rule on instructing nuns without approval, the first, is finished.","pi":"Anāpatti—\nuddesaṁ dento,\nparipucchaṁ dento,\n“osārehi ayyā”ti vuccamāno, osāreti,\npañhaṁ pucchati,\npañhaṁ puṭṭho katheti,\naññassatthāya bhaṇantaṁ bhikkhuniyo suṇanti,\nsikkhamānāya,\nsāmaṇeriyā,\nummattakassa,\nādikammikassāti.\nOvādasikkhāpadaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ paṭhamaṁ."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-bu-vb-pc21/en/brahmali","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}