{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22","title":"Instructing nuns after sunset","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Brahmāli · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22","title":"Instructing nuns after sunset","units":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:0.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:0.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:0.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:0.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Theravāda Vinaya\nMahāvibhaṅga\nPācittiyakaṇḍa\nOvādavagga\n22. Atthaṅgatasikkhāpada","en":"Theravāda Collection on Monastic Law\nThe Great Analysis\nThe chapter on offenses entailing confession\nThe subchapter on the instruction\nInstructing nuns after sunset"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.21","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.22","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.23","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.24","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.25","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.26","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.27","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.28","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.29","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.30","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.31","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.32"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Origin story\nAt one time when the Buddha was staying at Sāvatthī in Anāthapiṇḍika’s Monastery,\nthe senior monks were taking turns instructing the nuns. Then, on one occasion, it was Venerable Cūḷapanthaka’s turn.\nThe nuns said, “Today the instruction won’t be effective. Venerable Cūḷapanthaka will just be repeating the same thing over and over.”\nSoon afterwards those nuns went to Cūḷapanthaka, bowed, and sat down.\nCūḷapanthaka then said to them, “Are you all here, sisters?”\n“We’re all here, venerable.”\n“Are you keeping the eight important principles?”\n“We are.”\nAfter saying, “This is the instruction,” he uttered the same heartfelt exclamation again and again:\n“For the heedful one possessed of the higher mind,\nFor the sage training on the path to sagacity—\nThere are no sorrows for such a one,\nThe peaceful one, who is always mindful.”\nAnd the nuns said, “Didn’t we say that the instruction wouldn’t be effective, that Venerable Cūḷapanthaka would just be repeating the same thing over and over?”\nCūḷapanthaka overheard that conversation between the nuns.\nHe then rose up into the air, walked back and forth in space, and he stood, sat down, and lay down there. He emitted smoke and fire, and he disappeared, all the while uttering the same heartfelt exclamation and many other sayings by the Buddha.\nThe nuns said,\n“It’s astonishing and amazing!\nNo previous instruction has been as effective as this one from Venerable Cūḷapanthaka!”\nAnd Cūḷapanthaka kept on instructing those nuns until the dark of night and then dismissed them, saying, “Go, sisters.”\nBut because the gates to town were closed, those nuns spent the night outside and only entered early in the morning.\nPeople complained and criticized them, “These nuns aren’t celibate.\nThey spend the night in the monastery with the monks and only now do they enter town.”\nThe monks heard the complaints of those people,\nand the monks of few desires complained and criticized Cūḷapanthaka,\n“How could Venerable Cūḷapanthaka instruct the nuns after the sun has set?”…\n“Is it true, Cūḷapanthaka, that you did this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\nThe Buddha rebuked him …\n“Cūḷapanthaka, how could you do this?\nThis will affect people’s confidence …” …\n“And, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:","pi":"Tena samayena buddho bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.\nTena kho pana samayena therā bhikkhū bhikkhuniyo ovadanti pariyāyena. Tena kho pana samayena āyasmato cūḷapanthakassa pariyāyo hoti bhikkhuniyo ovadituṁ.\nBhikkhuniyo evamāhaṁsu—“na dāni ajja ovādo iddho bhavissati, taññeva dāni udānaṁ ayyo cūḷapanthako punappunaṁ bhaṇissatī”ti.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo yenāyasmā cūḷapanthako tenupasaṅkamiṁsu; upasaṅkamitvā āyasmantaṁ cūḷapanthakaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdiṁsu.\nEkamantaṁ nisinnā kho tā bhikkhuniyo āyasmā cūḷapanthako etadavoca—“samaggāttha, bhaginiyo”ti?\n“Samaggāmhāyyā”ti.\n“Vattanti, bhaginiyo, aṭṭha garudhammā”ti?\n“Vattantāyyā”ti.\n“Eso, bhaginiyo, ovādo”ti niyyādetvā imaṁ udānaṁ punappunaṁ abhāsi—\n“Adhicetaso appamajjato,\nMunino monapathesu sikkhato;\nSokā na bhavanti tādino,\nUpasantassa sadā satīmato”ti.\nBhikkhuniyo evamāhaṁsu—“nanu avocumhā—na dāni ajja ovādo iddho bhavissati, taññeva dāni udānaṁ ayyo cūḷapanthako punappunaṁ bhaṇissatī”ti.\nAssosi kho āyasmā cūḷapanthako tāsaṁ bhikkhunīnaṁ imaṁ kathāsallāpaṁ.\nAtha kho āyasmā cūḷapanthako vehāsaṁ abbhuggantvā ākāse antalikkhe caṅkamatipi tiṭṭhatipi nisīdatipi seyyampi kappeti dhūmāyatipi pajjalatipi antaradhāyatipi, tañceva udānaṁ bhaṇati aññañca bahuṁ buddhavacanaṁ.\nBhikkhuniyo evamāhaṁsu—\n“acchariyaṁ vata bho, abbhutaṁ vata bho.\nNa vata no ito pubbe ovādo evaṁ iddho bhūtapubbo yathā ayyassa cūḷapanthakassā”ti.\nAtha kho āyasmā cūḷapanthako tā bhikkhuniyo yāva samandhakārā ovaditvā uyyojesi—“gacchatha, bhaginiyo”ti.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo nagaradvāre thakite bahinagare vasitvā kālasseva nagaraṁ pavisanti.\nManussā ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—“abrahmacāriniyo imā bhikkhuniyo;\nārāme bhikkhūhi saddhiṁ vasitvā idāni nagaraṁ pavisantī”ti.\nAssosuṁ kho bhikkhū tesaṁ manussānaṁ ujjhāyantānaṁ khiyyantānaṁ vipācentānaṁ.\nYe te bhikkhū appicchā …pe… te ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma āyasmā cūḷapanthako atthaṅgate sūriye bhikkhuniyo ovadissatī”ti …pe…\n“saccaṁ kira tvaṁ, cūḷapanthaka, atthaṅgate sūriye bhikkhuniyo ovadasī”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\nVigarahi buddho bhagavā …pe…\nkathañhi nāma tvaṁ, cūḷapanthaka, atthaṅgate sūriye bhikkhuniyo ovadissasi.\nNetaṁ, cūḷapanthaka, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nevañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.33","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.33.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:1.33.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Final ruling\n‘Even if he has been appointed, if a monk instructs the nuns after sunset, he commits an offense entailing confession.’”","pi":"“Sammatopi ce bhikkhu atthaṅgate sūriye bhikkhuniyo ovadeyya, pācittiyan”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.1.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Definitions\nHas been appointed:\nhas been appointed through a legal procedure consisting of one motion and three announcements.\nAfter sunset:\nafter the sun has gone down.\nThe nuns:\nthey have been given the full ordination by both Sanghas.\nInstructs:\nif he instructs in the eight important principles or he gives any other teaching, he commits an offense entailing confession.","pi":"Sammato nāma\nñatticatutthena kammena sammato.\nAtthaṅgate sūriyeti\noggate sūriye.\nBhikkhunī nāma\nubhatosaṅghe upasampannā.\nOvadeyyāti\naṭṭhahi vā garudhammehi aññena vā dhammena ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.2.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.2.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Permutations\nIf the sun has set, and he perceives that it has, and he instructs the nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf the sun has set, but he is unsure of it, and he instructs the nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf the sun has set, but he perceives that it has not, and he instructs the nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf he instructs a nun who is fully ordained only on one side, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf the sun has not set, but he perceives that it has, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf the sun has not set, but he is unsure of it, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf the sun has not set, and he perceives that it has not, there is no offense.","pi":"Atthaṅgate atthaṅgatasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAtthaṅgate vematiko ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAtthaṅgate anatthaṅgatasaññī ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nEkatoupasampannāya ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAnatthaṅgate atthaṅgatasaññī, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAnatthaṅgate vematiko, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAnatthaṅgate anatthaṅgatasaññī, anāpatti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22:2.3.12"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Non-offenses\nThere is no offense:\nif he recites;\nif he tests them;\nif he recites when asked to do so;\nif he asks a question;\nif he replies when asked a question;\nif he is speaking for the benefit of someone else and the nuns listen in;\nif it is to a trainee nun;\nif it is to a novice nun;\nif he is insane;\nif he is the first offender.\nThe training rule on instructing nuns after sunset, the second, is finished.","pi":"Anāpatti—\nuddesaṁ dento,\nparipucchaṁ dento,\n“osārehi ayyā”ti vuccamāno, osāreti,\npañhaṁ pucchati,\npañhaṁ puṭṭho katheti,\naññassatthāya bhaṇantaṁ bhikkhuniyo suṇanti,\nsikkhamānāya,\nsāmaṇeriyā,\nummattakassa,\nādikammikassāti.\nAtthaṅgatasikkhāpadaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ dutiyaṁ."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-bu-vb-pc22/en/brahmali","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}