{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23","title":"Instructing nuns in a nunnery","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Brahmāli · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23","title":"Instructing nuns in a nunnery","units":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:0.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:0.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:0.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:0.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Theravāda Vinaya\nMahāvibhaṅga\nPācittiyakaṇḍa\nOvādavagga\n23. Bhikkhunupassayasikkhāpada","en":"Theravāda Collection on Monastic Law\nThe Great Analysis\nThe chapter on offenses entailing confession\nThe subchapter on the instruction\nInstructing nuns in a nunnery"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.0.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Origin story\nFirst substory"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.16"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tena samayena buddho bhagavā sakkesu viharati kapilavatthusmiṁ nigrodhārāme.\nTena kho pana samayena chabbaggiyā bhikkhū bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā chabbaggiyā bhikkhuniyo ovadanti.\nBhikkhuniyo chabbaggiyā bhikkhuniyo etadavocuṁ—\n“ethāyye, ovādaṁ gamissāmā”ti.\n“Yampi mayaṁ, ayye, gaccheyyāma ovādassa kāraṇā, ayyā chabbaggiyā idheva āgantvā amhe ovadantī”ti.\nBhikkhuniyo ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma chabbaggiyā bhikkhū bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā bhikkhuniyo ovadissantī”ti.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo bhikkhūnaṁ etamatthaṁ ārocesuṁ.\nYe te bhikkhū appicchā …pe… te ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma chabbaggiyā bhikkhū bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā bhikkhuniyo ovadissantī”ti …pe…\n“saccaṁ kira tumhe, bhikkhave, bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā bhikkhuniyo ovadathā”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\nVigarahi buddho bhagavā …pe…\nkathañhi nāma tumhe, moghapurisā, bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā bhikkhuniyo ovadissatha.\nNetaṁ, moghapurisā, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nevañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha—","en":"At one time when the Buddha was staying in the Sakyan country in the Banyan Tree Monastery at Kapilavatthu,\nthe monks from the group of six went to the nunnery and instructed the nuns from the group of six.\nSoon afterwards, other nuns said to the nuns from the group of six,\n“Come, venerables, let’s go to the instruction.”\n“There’s no need. The monks from the group of six came and instructed us right here.”\nThe nuns complained and criticized the monks from the group of six,\n“How could the monks from the group of six go to the nunnery and instruct the nuns?”\nThen those nuns told the monks.\nThe monks of few desires complained and criticized those monks,\n“How could those monks do this?”…\n“Is it true, monks, that you did this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\nThe Buddha rebuked them …\n“Foolish men, how could you do this?\nThis will affect people’s confidence …” …\n“And, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.17","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.17.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.17.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Preliminary ruling\n‘If a monk goes to a nunnery and instructs the nuns, he commits an offense entailing confession.’”","pi":"“Yo pana bhikkhu bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā bhikkhuniyo ovadeyya, pācittiyan”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1-from-pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23-1.18","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:1.18"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evañcidaṁ bhagavatā bhikkhūnaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ paññattaṁ hoti.","en":"In this way the Buddha laid down this training rule for the monks."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.18"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Second substory\nSoon afterwards Mahāpajāpati Gotamī became sick.\nThe senior monks went to see her\nand said,\n“We hope you’re bearing up, Gotamī, we hope you’re getting better?”\n“I’m not bearing up, venerables, and I’m not getting better.\nPlease give me a teaching.”\n“It’s not allowable for us to go a nunnery and teach the nuns.” And being afraid of wrongdoing, they did not teach her.\nSoon afterwards, after robing up in the morning, the Buddha took his bowl and robe and went to Mahāpajāpati Gotamī where he sat down on the prepared seat.\nHe said to her,\n“I hope you’re bearing up, Gotamī, I hope you’re getting better?”\n“Previously, sir, the senior monks would come and teach me,\nand because of that I would be comfortable.\nBut now that this has been prohibited by the Buddha, they don’t teach because they’re afraid of wrongdoing.\nBecause of that I’m not comfortable.”\nAfter instructing, inspiring, and gladdening her with a teaching, the Buddha got up from his seat and left.\nSoon afterwards the Buddha gave a teaching and addressed the monks:\n“Monks, I allow you to go a nunnery and instruct a sick nun.\nAnd so, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:","pi":"Tena kho pana samayena mahāpajāpati gotamī gilānā hoti.\nTherā bhikkhū yena mahāpajāpati gotamī tenupasaṅkamiṁsu;\nupasaṅkamitvā mahāpajāpatiṁ gotamiṁ etadavocuṁ—“\nkacci, gotami, khamanīyaṁ, kacci yāpanīyan”ti?\n“Na me, ayyā, khamanīyaṁ na yāpanīyaṁ”.\n“Iṅghayyā, dhammaṁ desethā”ti.\n“Na, bhagini, kappati bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā bhikkhuniyo dhammaṁ desetun”ti kukkuccāyantā na desesuṁ.\nAtha kho bhagavā pubbaṇhasamayaṁ nivāsetvā pattacīvaramādāya yena mahāpajāpati gotamī tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā paññatte āsane nisīdi.\nNisajja kho bhagavā mahāpajāpatiṁ gotamiṁ etadavoca—\n“kacci, gotami, khamanīyaṁ, kacci yāpanīyan”ti?\n“Pubbe me, bhante, therā bhikkhū āgantvā dhammaṁ desenti.\nTena me phāsu hoti.\nIdāni pana—‘bhagavatā paṭikkhittan’ti, kukkuccāyantā na desenti.\nTena me na phāsu hotī”ti.\nAtha kho bhagavā mahāpajāpatiṁ gotamiṁ dhammiyā kathāya sandassetvā samādapetvā samuttejetvā sampahaṁsetvā uṭṭhāyāsanā pakkāmi.\nAtha kho bhagavā etasmiṁ nidāne etasmiṁ pakaraṇe dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā bhikkhū āmantesi—\n“anujānāmi, bhikkhave, bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā gilānaṁ bhikkhuniṁ ovadituṁ.\nEvañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.19","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.19.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.19.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Final ruling\n‘If a monk goes to a nunnery and instructs the nuns, except on an appropriate occasion, he commits an offense entailing confession.","pi":"“Yo pana bhikkhu bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā bhikkhuniyo ovadeyya, aññatra samayā, pācittiyaṁ."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2-from-pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23-2.20","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:2.20"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tatthāyaṁ samayo. Gilānā hoti bhikkhunī—ayaṁ tattha samayo”ti.","en":"This is the appropriate occasion: a nun is sick.’”"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.1.16"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Definitions\nA:\nwhoever …\nMonk:\n… The monk who has been given the full ordination by a unanimous Sangha through a legal procedure consisting of one motion and three announcements that is irreversible and fit to stand—this sort of monk is meant in this case.\nA nunnery:\nwherever nuns stay, even for a single night.\nGoes to:\ngoes there.\nThe nuns:\nthey have been given the full ordination by both Sanghas.\nInstructs:\nif he instructs about the eight important principles, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nExcept on an appropriate occasion:\nunless it is an appropriate occasion.\nA sick nun:\nshe is not able to go to the instruction or to a formal meeting of the community.","pi":"Yo panāti\nyo yādiso …pe…\nbhikkhūti\n…pe… ayaṁ imasmiṁ atthe adhippeto bhikkhūti.\nBhikkhunupassayo nāma\nyattha bhikkhuniyo ekarattampi vasanti.\nUpasaṅkamitvāti\ntattha gantvā.\nBhikkhunī nāma\nubhatosaṅghe upasampannā.\nOvadeyyāti\naṭṭhahi garudhammehi ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAññatra samayāti\nṭhapetvā samayaṁ.\nGilānā nāma bhikkhunī\nna sakkoti ovādāya vā saṁvāsāya vā gantuṁ."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.2.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Permutations\nIf she is fully ordained, and he perceives her as such, and he goes to the nunnery and instructs her, except on an appropriate occasion, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf she is fully ordained, but he is unsure of it, and he goes to the nunnery and instructs her, except on an appropriate occasion, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf she is fully ordained, but he does not perceive her as such, and he goes to the nunnery and instructs her, except on an appropriate occasion, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf he instructs her with another teaching, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf he instructs a nun who is fully ordained only on one side, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf she is not fully ordained, but he perceives her as such, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf she is not fully ordained, but he is unsure of it, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf she is not fully ordained, and he does not perceive her as such, there is no offense.","pi":"Upasampannāya upasampannasaññī bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā aññatra samayā ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nUpasampannāya vematiko bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā aññatra samayā ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nUpasampannāya anupasampannasaññī bhikkhunupassayaṁ upasaṅkamitvā aññatra samayā ovadati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAññena dhammena ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nEkatoupasampannāya ovadati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAnupasampannāya upasampannasaññī, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAnupasampannāya vematiko, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAnupasampannāya anupasampannasaññī, anāpatti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23:3.3.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Non-offenses\nThere is no offense:\nif it is an appropriate occasion;\nif he recites;\nif he tests them;\nif he recites when asked to do so;\nif he asks a question;\nif he replies when asked a question;\nif he is speaking for the benefit of someone else and the nuns listen in;\nif it is to a trainee nun;\nif it is to a novice nun;\nif he is insane;\nif he is the first offender.\nThe training rule on instructing nuns in a nunnery, the third, is finished.","pi":"Anāpatti—\nsamaye,\nuddesaṁ dento,\nparipucchaṁ dento,\n“osārehi ayyā”ti vuccamāno osāreti,\npañhaṁ pucchati,\npañhaṁ puṭṭho katheti,\naññassatthāya bhaṇantaṁ bhikkhuniyo suṇanti,\nsikkhamānāya,\nsāmaṇeriyā,\nummattakassa,\nādikammikassāti.\nBhikkhunupassayasikkhāpadaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ tatiyaṁ."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-bu-vb-pc23/en/brahmali","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}