{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27","title":"Traveling with a nun","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Brahmāli · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27","title":"Traveling with a nun","units":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:0.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:0.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:0.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:0.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Theravāda Vinaya\nMahāvibhaṅga\nPācittiyakaṇḍa\nOvādavagga\n27. Saṁvidhānasikkhāpada","en":"Theravāda Collection on Monastic Law\nThe Great Analysis\nThe chapter on offenses entailing confession\nThe subchapter on the instruction\nTraveling with a nun"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.0.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Origin story\nFirst substory"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tena samayena buddho bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.\nTena kho pana samayena chabbaggiyā bhikkhū bhikkhunīhi saddhiṁ saṁvidhāya ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjanti.\nManussā ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“yatheva mayaṁ sapajāpatikā āhiṇḍāma, evamevime samaṇā sakyaputtiyā bhikkhunīhi saddhiṁ saṁvidhāya āhiṇḍantī”ti.\nAssosuṁ kho bhikkhū tesaṁ manussānaṁ ujjhāyantānaṁ khiyyantānaṁ vipācentānaṁ.\nYe te bhikkhū appicchā …pe… te ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma chabbaggiyā bhikkhū bhikkhunīhi saddhiṁ saṁvidhāya ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjissantī”ti …pe…\n“saccaṁ kira tumhe, bhikkhave, bhikkhunīhi saddhiṁ saṁvidhāya ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjathā”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\nVigarahi buddho bhagavā …pe…\nkathañhi nāma tumhe, moghapurisā, bhikkhunīhi saddhiṁ saṁvidhāya ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjissatha.\nNetaṁ, moghapurisā, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nevañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha.","en":"At one time the Buddha was staying at Sāvatthī in the Jeta Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s Monastery.\nAt that time the monks from the group of six traveled by arrangement with nuns.\nPeople complained and criticized them,\n“Just as we walk about with our wives, so these Sakyan monastics walk about by arrangement with nuns.”\nThe monks heard the complaints of those people,\nand the monks of few desires complained and criticized those monks,\n“How can the monks from the group of six travel by arrangement with the nuns?” …\n“Is it true, monks, that you do this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\nThe Buddha rebuked them …\n“Foolish men, how can you do this?\nThis will affect people’s confidence …” …\n“And, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.14","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.14.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.14.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Preliminary ruling\n‘If a monk travels by arrangement with a nun, even just to the next inhabited area, he commits an offense entailing confession.’”","pi":"“Yo pana bhikkhu bhikkhuniyā saddhiṁ saṁvidhāya ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjeyya, antamaso gāmantarampi, pācittiyan”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1-from-pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27-1.15","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:1.15"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evañcidaṁ bhagavatā bhikkhūnaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ paññattaṁ hoti.","en":"In this way the Buddha laid down this training rule for the monks."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.14"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Second substory\nSoon afterwards a number of monks and nuns were traveling from Sāketa to Sāvatthī.\nThe nuns said to the monks,\n“Let’s go together.”\n“Sisters, it’s not allowable for us to travel by arrangement with nuns.\nEither you go first, or we will.”\n“You have the higher status, venerables.\nPlease go first.”\nBut because the nuns went behind, they were robbed and raped by bandits.\nWhen they arrived at Sāvatthī, they told the nuns there what had happened.\nThe nuns then told the monks,\nwho in turn told the Buddha.\nSoon afterwards the Buddha gave a teaching and addressed the monks:\n“Monks, I allow you to travel by arrangement with a nun if it’s a risky and dangerous road that should be traveled with a group.\nAnd so, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:","pi":"Tena kho pana samayena sambahulā bhikkhū ca bhikkhuniyo ca sāketā sāvatthiṁ addhānamaggappaṭipannā honti.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo te bhikkhū etadavocuṁ—\n“mayampi ayyehi saddhiṁ gamissāmā”ti.\n“Na, bhaginī, kappati bhikkhuniyā saddhiṁ saṁvidhāya ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjituṁ.\nTumhe vā paṭhamaṁ gacchatha mayaṁ vā gamissāmā”ti.\n“Ayyā, bhante, aggapurisā.\nAyyāva paṭhamaṁ gacchantū”ti.\nAtha kho tāsaṁ bhikkhunīnaṁ pacchā gacchantīnaṁ antarāmagge corā acchindiṁsu ca dūsesuñca.\nAtha kho tā bhikkhuniyo sāvatthiṁ gantvā bhikkhunīnaṁ etamatthaṁ ārocesuṁ.\nBhikkhuniyo bhikkhūnaṁ etamatthaṁ ārocesuṁ.\nBhikkhū bhagavato etamatthaṁ ārocesuṁ.\nAtha kho bhagavā etasmiṁ nidāne etasmiṁ pakaraṇe dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā bhikkhū āmantesi—\n“anujānāmi, bhikkhave, satthagamanīye magge sāsaṅkasammate sappaṭibhaye bhikkhuniyā saddhiṁ saṁvidhāya ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjituṁ.\nEvañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.15","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.15.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.15.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Final ruling\n‘If a monk travels by arrangement with a nun, even just to the next inhabited area, except on an appropriate occasion, he commits an offense entailing confession.","pi":"“Yo pana bhikkhu bhikkhuniyā saddhiṁ saṁvidhāya ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjeyya, antamaso gāmantarampi, aññatra samayā, pācittiyaṁ."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2-from-pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27-2.16","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:2.16"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tatthāyaṁ samayo. Satthagamanīyo hoti maggo sāsaṅkasammato sappaṭibhayo—ayaṁ tattha samayo”ti.","en":"This is the appropriate occasion: the road is considered risky and dangerous and should be traveled with a group.’”"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.17","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.18","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.19","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.20","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.1.21"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Definitions\nA:\nwhoever …\nMonk:\n… The monk who has been given the full ordination by a unanimous Sangha through a legal procedure consisting of one motion and three announcements that is irreversible and fit to stand—this sort of monk is meant in this case.\nA nun:\nshe has been given the full ordination by both Sanghas.\nWith:\ntogether.\nBy arrangement:\nif he makes an arrangement like this: he says, “Let’s go, sister,” and she replies, “Yes, let’s go, venerable;” or she says, “Let’s go, venerable,” and he replies, “Yes, let’s go, sister;” or he says, “Let’s go today,” “Let’s go tomorrow,” “Let’s go the day after tomorrow,” then he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nEven just to the next inhabited area:\nwhen the inhabited areas are a chicken’s flight apart, then for every next inhabited area he commits an offense entailing confession.\nWhen it is an uninhabited area, a wilderness, then for every six kilometers he commits an offense entailing confession.\nExcept on an appropriate occasion:\nunless it is an appropriate occasion.\nThe road should be traveled with a group:\nit is not possible to travel without a group.\nRisky:\na place has been seen along that road where criminals are camping, eating, standing, sitting, or lying down.\nDangerous:\ncriminals have been seen along that road, injuring, robbing, or beating people. If they go together thinking it is dangerous, but then see that it is not, the nuns are to be dismissed, “Go, sisters.”","pi":"Yo panāti\nyo yādiso …pe…\nbhikkhūti\n…pe… ayaṁ imasmiṁ atthe adhippeto bhikkhūti.\nBhikkhunī nāma\nubhatosaṅghe upasampannā.\nSaddhinti\nekato.\nSaṁvidhāyāti—\n“gacchāma, bhagini, gacchāmāyya; gacchāmāyya, gacchāma, bhagini; ajja vā hiyyo vā pare vā gacchāmā”ti saṁvidahati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAntamaso gāmantarampīti\nkukkuṭasampāte gāme, gāmantare gāmantare āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAgāmake araññe, addhayojane addhayojane āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAññatra samayāti\nṭhapetvā samayaṁ.\nSatthagamanīyo nāma maggo\nna sakkā hoti vinā satthena gantuṁ.\nSāsaṅkaṁ nāma\ntasmiṁ magge corānaṁ niviṭṭhokāso dissati, bhuttokāso dissati, ṭhitokāso dissati, nisinnokāso dissati, nipannokāso dissati.\nSappaṭibhayaṁ nāma\ntasmiṁ magge corehi manussā hatā dissanti, viluttā dissanti, ākoṭitā dissanti, sappaṭibhayaṁ gantvā appaṭibhayaṁ dassetvā uyyojetabbā— “gacchatha, bhaginiyo”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.2.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.2.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Permutations\nIf there is an arrangement, and he perceives that there is, and he travels with a nun, even just to the next inhabited area, except on an appropriate occasion, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf there is an arrangement, but he is unsure of it, and he travels with a nun, even just to the next inhabited area, except on an appropriate occasion, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf there is an arrangement, but he does not perceive that there is, and he travels with a nun, even just to the next inhabited area, except on an appropriate occasion, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf the monk makes an arrangement, but the nun does not express her agreement, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf there is no arrangement, but he perceives that there is, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf there is no arrangement, but he is unsure of it, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf there is no arrangement, and he does not perceive that there is, there is no offense.","pi":"Saṁvidahite saṁvidahitasaññī ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjati, antamaso gāmantarampi, aññatra samayā, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nSaṁvidahite vematiko ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjati, antamaso gāmantarampi, aññatra samayā, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nSaṁvidahite, asaṁvidahitasaññī ekaddhānamaggaṁ paṭipajjati, antamaso gāmantarampi, aññatra samayā, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nBhikkhu saṁvidahati bhikkhunī na saṁvidahati, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAsaṁvidahite saṁvidahitasaññī, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAsaṁvidahite vematiko, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nAsaṁvidahite asaṁvidahitasaññī, anāpatti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27:3.3.9"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Non-offenses\nThere is no offense:\nif it is an appropriate occasion;\nif he goes without an arrangement;\nif the nun has made an arrangement, but he has not expressed his agreement;\nif they go, but not according to the arrangement;\nif there is an emergency;\nif he is insane;\nif he is the first offender.\nThe training rule on traveling with a nun, the seventh, is finished.","pi":"Anāpatti—\nsamaye,\nasaṁvidahitvā gacchati,\nbhikkhunī saṁvidahati, bhikkhu na saṁvidahati,\nvisaṅketena gacchanti,\nāpadāsu,\nummattakassa,\nādikammikassāti.\nSaṁvidhānasikkhāpadaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ sattamaṁ."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-bu-vb-pc27/en/brahmali","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}