{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5","title":"Lying down with one not fully ordained","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Brahmāli · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5","title":"Lying down with one not fully ordained","units":[{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:0.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:0.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:0.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:0.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Theravāda Vinaya\nMahāvibhaṅga\nPācittiyakaṇḍa\nMusāvādavagga\n5. Sahaseyyasikkhāpada","en":"Theravāda Collection on Monastic Law\nThe Great Analysis\nThe chapter on offenses entailing confession\nThe subchapter on lying\nLying down with one not fully ordained"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.0","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.0.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.0.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Origin story\nFirst substory"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.16"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tena samayena buddho bhagavā āḷaviyaṁ viharati aggāḷave cetiye.\nTena kho pana samayena upāsakā ārāmaṁ āgacchanti dhammassavanāya.\nDhamme bhāsite therā bhikkhū yathāvihāraṁ gacchanti.\nNavakā bhikkhū tattheva upaṭṭhānasālāyaṁ upāsakehi saddhiṁ muṭṭhassatī, asampajānā, naggā, vikūjamānā, kākacchamānā seyyaṁ kappenti.\nUpāsakā ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma bhadantā muṭṭhassatī asampajānā naggā vikūjamānā kākacchamānā seyyaṁ kappessantī”ti.\nAssosuṁ kho bhikkhū tesaṁ upāsakānaṁ ujjhāyantānaṁ khiyyantānaṁ vipācentānaṁ.\nYe te bhikkhū appicchā …pe… te ujjhāyanti khiyyanti vipācenti—\n“kathañhi nāma bhikkhū anupasampannena sahaseyyaṁ kappessantī”ti.\nAtha kho te bhikkhū te navake bhikkhū anekapariyāyena vigarahitvā bhagavato etamatthaṁ ārocesuṁ …pe…\n“saccaṁ kira, bhikkhave, bhikkhū anupasampannena sahaseyyaṁ kappentī”ti?\n“Saccaṁ, bhagavā”ti.\nVigarahi buddho bhagavā …pe…\nkathañhi nāma te, bhikkhave, moghapurisā anupasampannena sahaseyyaṁ kappessanti.\nNetaṁ, bhikkhave, appasannānaṁ vā pasādāya …pe…\nevañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha—","en":"At one time the Buddha was staying at Āḷavī at the Aggāḷava Shrine.\nAt that time the lay followers were coming to the monastery to listen to the Teaching.\nWhen the instruction was over, the senior monks went to their own dwellings,\nbut the newly ordained monks lay down right there in the assembly hall together with the lay followers—absentminded, heedless, naked, muttering, and snoring.\nThe lay followers complained and criticized them,\n“How can the venerables lie down absentminded, heedless, naked, muttering, and snoring?”\nThe monks heard the complaints of those lay followers,\nand the monks of few desires complained and criticized those monks,\n“How can monks lie down in the same sleeping place as people who are not fully ordained?”\nAfter rebuking those newly ordained monks in many ways, they told the Buddha. Soon afterwards he had the Sangha gathered and questioned the monks:\n“Is it true, monks, that monks did this?”\n“It’s true, sir.”\nThe Buddha rebuked them …\n“How could those foolish men do this?\nThis will affect people’s confidence …” …\n“And, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.17","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.17.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.17.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Preliminary ruling\n‘If a monk lies down in the same sleeping place as a person who is not fully ordained, he commits an offense entailing confession.’”","pi":"“Yo pana bhikkhu anupasampannena sahaseyyaṁ kappeyya pācittiyan”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1-from-pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5-1.18","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:1.18"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evañcidaṁ bhagavatā bhikkhūnaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ paññattaṁ hoti.","en":"In this way the Buddha laid down this training rule for the monks."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.15"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Second substory\nAfter staying at Āḷavī for as long as he wanted, the Buddha set out wandering toward Kosambī.\nWhen he eventually arrived, he stayed at the Badarikā Monastery.\nJust then the monks there said to Venerable Rāhula,\n“Rāhula, the Buddha has laid down a training rule that we can’t lie down in the same sleeping place as a person who’s not fully ordained.\nPlease find another sleeping place.”\nSince Rāhula was not able to find a sleeping place, he lay down in the restroom.\nThen, after rising early in the morning, the Buddha went to the restroom where he cleared his throat.\nRāhula, too, cleared his throat.\n“Who’s there?”\n“It’s me, sir, Rāhula.”\n“Why are you sitting here, Rāhula?”\nRāhula told the Buddha what had happened.\nSoon afterwards the Buddha gave a teaching and addressed the monks:\n“Monks, I allow you to lie down in the same sleeping place as a person who isn’t fully ordained for two or three nights.\nAnd so, monks, this training rule should be recited like this:","pi":"Atha kho bhagavā āḷaviyaṁ yathābhirantaṁ viharitvā yena kosambī tena cārikaṁ pakkāmi.\nAnupubbena cārikaṁ caramāno yena kosambī tadavasari. Tatra sudaṁ bhagavā kosambiyaṁ viharati badarikārāme.\nBhikkhū āyasmantaṁ rāhulaṁ etadavocuṁ—\n“bhagavatā, āvuso rāhula, sikkhāpadaṁ paññattaṁ—‘na anupasampannena sahaseyyā kappetabbā’ti.\nSeyyaṁ, āvuso rāhula, jānāhī”ti.\nAtha kho āyasmā rāhulo seyyaṁ alabhamāno vaccakuṭiyā seyyaṁ kappesi.\nAtha kho bhagavā rattiyā paccūsasamayaṁ paccuṭṭhāya yena vaccakuṭi tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā ukkāsi.\nĀyasmāpi rāhulo ukkāsi.\n“Ko etthā”ti?\n“Ahaṁ, bhagavā, rāhulo”ti.\n“Kissa tvaṁ, rāhula, idha nisinnosī”ti?\nAtha kho āyasmā rāhulo bhagavato etamatthaṁ ārocesi.\nAtha kho bhagavā etasmiṁ nidāne etasmiṁ pakaraṇe dhammiṁ kathaṁ katvā bhikkhū āmantesi—\n“anujānāmi, bhikkhave, anupasampannena dirattatirattaṁ sahaseyyaṁ kappetuṁ.\nEvañca pana, bhikkhave, imaṁ sikkhāpadaṁ uddiseyyātha—"}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.16","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.16.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:2.16.1"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Final ruling\n‘If a monk lies down more than two or three nights in the same sleeping place as a person who is not fully ordained, he commits an offense entailing confession.’”","pi":"“Yo pana bhikkhu anupasampannena uttaridirattatirattaṁ sahaseyyaṁ kappeyya, pācittiyan”ti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.14","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.15","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.16","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.1.17"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Definitions\nA:\nwhoever …\nMonk:\n… The monk who has been given the full ordination by a unanimous Sangha through a legal procedure consisting of one motion and three announcements that is irreversible and fit to stand—this sort of monk is meant in this case.\nA person who is not fully ordained:\nanyone except a fully ordained monk.\nMore than two or three nights:\nin excess of two or three nights.\nSame:\ntogether.\nSleeping place:\nfully roofed, fully walled; mostly roofed, mostly walled.\nLies down in the same sleeping place:\nat dawn on the fourth day: if he lies down when the person who is not fully ordained is already lying down, he commits an offense entailing confession;\nif the person who is not fully ordained lies down when he is already lying down, he commits an offense entailing confession;\nif they both lie down together, he commits an offense entailing confession;\nevery time they get up and then lie down again, he commits an offense entailing confession.","pi":"Yo panāti\nyo yādiso …pe…\nbhikkhūti\n…pe… ayaṁ imasmiṁ atthe adhippeto bhikkhūti.\nAnupasampanno nāma\nbhikkhuṁ ṭhapetvā avaseso anupasampanno nāma.\nUttaridirattatirattanti\natirekadirattatirattaṁ.\nSahāti\nekato.\nSeyyā nāma\nsabbacchannā, sabbaparicchannā, yebhuyyenacchannā, yebhuyyena paricchannā.\nSeyyaṁ kappeyyāti\ncatutthe divase atthaṅgate sūriye, anupasampanne nipanne, bhikkhu nipajjati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nBhikkhu nipanne, anupasampanno nipajjati, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nUbho vā nipajjanti, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nUṭṭhahitvā punappunaṁ nipajjanti, āpatti pācittiyassa."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.2","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.2.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.2.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.2.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.2.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.2.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.2.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.2.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.2.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Permutations\nIf they are not fully ordained, and the monk does not perceive them as such, and he lies down more than two or three nights in the same sleeping place as them, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf they are not fully ordained, but the monk is unsure of it, and he lies down more than two or three nights in the same sleeping place as them, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf they are not fully ordained, but the monk perceives them as such, and he lies down more than two or three nights in the same sleeping place as them, he commits an offense entailing confession.\nIf it is half-roofed and half-walled, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf they are fully ordained, but the monk does not perceive them as such, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf they are fully ordained, but the monk is unsure of it, he commits an offense of wrong conduct.\nIf they are fully ordained, and the monk perceives them as such, there is no offense.","pi":"Anupasampanne anupasampannasaññī uttaridirattatirattaṁ sahaseyyaṁ kappeti, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAnupasampanne vematiko uttaridirattatirattaṁ sahaseyyaṁ kappeti, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nAnupasampanne upasampannasaññī uttaridirattatirattaṁ sahaseyyaṁ kappeti, āpatti pācittiyassa.\nUpaḍḍhacchanne upaḍḍhaparicchanne, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nUpasampanne anupasampannasaññī, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nUpasampanne vematiko, āpatti dukkaṭassa.\nUpasampanne upasampannasaññī, anāpatti."}},{"id":"pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3","sourceIds":["pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.0","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.1","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.2","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.3","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.4","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.5","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.6","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.7","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.8","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.9","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.10","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.11","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.12","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.13","pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5:3.3.14"],"kind":"text","text":{"en":"Non-offenses\nThere is no offense:\nif he stays together with them for two or three nights;\nif he stays together with them for less than two or three nights;\nif, after staying together for two nights, he leaves before dawn on the third night and then stays together again;\nif it is fully roofed, but not walled;\nif it is fully walled, but not roofed;\nif it is mostly not roofed;\nif it is mostly not walled;\nif the monk sits when the person who is not fully ordained is lying down;\nif the person who is not fully ordained sits when the monk is lying down;\nif they both sit;\nif he is insane;\nif he is the first offender.\nThe training rule on lying down with one not fully ordained, the fifth, is finished.","pi":"Anāpatti—\ndvetisso rattiyo vasati,\nūnakadvetisso rattiyo vasati,\ndve rattiyo vasitvā tatiyāya rattiyā purāruṇā nikkhamitvā puna vasati,\nsabbacchanne sabbaaparicchanne,\nsabbaparicchanne sabbaacchanne,\nyebhuyyena acchanne,\nyebhuyyena aparicchanne,\nanupasampanne nipanne bhikkhu nisīdati,\nbhikkhu nipanne anupasampanno nisīdati,\nubho vā nisīdanti,\nummattakassa,\nādikammikassāti.\nSahaseyyasikkhāpadaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ pañcamaṁ."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-bu-vb-pc5/en/brahmali","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}