{"id":"sn11.4","title":"With Vepacitti","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn11.4","title":"With Vepacitti","units":[{"id":"sn11.4:0","sourceIds":["sn11.4:0.1","sn11.4:0.2","sn11.4:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 11.4\n1. Paṭhamavagga\nVepacittisutta","en":"Linked Discourses 11.4\nChapter One\nWith Vepacitti"}},{"id":"sn11.4:1","sourceIds":["sn11.4:1.1","sn11.4:1.2","sn11.4:1.3","sn11.4:1.4","sn11.4:1.5","sn11.4:1.6","sn11.4:1.7","sn11.4:1.8","sn11.4:1.9","sn11.4:1.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sāvatthinidānaṁ.\n“Bhūtapubbaṁ, bhikkhave, devāsurasaṅgāmo samupabyūḷho ahosi.\nAtha kho, bhikkhave, vepacitti asurindo asure āmantesi:\n‘sace, mārisā, devānaṁ asurasaṅgāme samupabyūḷhe asurā jineyyuṁ devā parājineyyuṁ, yena naṁ sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi bandhitvā mama santike āneyyātha asurapuran’ti.\nSakkopi kho, bhikkhave, devānamindo deve tāvatiṁse āmantesi:\n‘sace, mārisā, devānaṁ asurasaṅgāme samupabyūḷhe devā jineyyuṁ asurā parājineyyuṁ, yena naṁ vepacittiṁ asurindaṁ kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi bandhitvā mama santike āneyyātha sudhammasabhan’ti.\nTasmiṁ kho pana, bhikkhave, saṅgāme devā jiniṁsu, asurā parājiniṁsu.\nAtha kho, bhikkhave, devā tāvatiṁsā vepacittiṁ asurindaṁ kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi bandhitvā sakkassa devānamindassa santike ānesuṁ sudhammasabhaṁ.\nTatra sudaṁ, bhikkhave, vepacitti asurindo kaṇṭhapañcamehi bandhanehi baddho sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ sudhammasabhaṁ pavisantañca nikkhamantañca asabbhāhi pharusāhi vācāhi akkosati paribhāsati.\nAtha kho, bhikkhave, mātali saṅgāhako sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ gāthāhi ajjhabhāsi:","en":"At Sāvatthī.\n“Once upon a time, mendicants, a battle was fought between the gods and the titans.\nThen Vepacitti, lord of titans, addressed the titans,\n‘My good fellows, if the titans defeat the gods in this battle, bind Sakka, the lord of gods, by his limbs and neck and bring him to my presence in the citadel of the titans.’\nMeanwhile, Sakka, lord of gods, addressed the gods of the thirty-three,\n‘My good fellows, if the gods defeat the titans in this battle, bind Vepacitti by his limbs and neck and bring him to my presence in the Hall of Clear Right of the gods.’\nIn that battle the gods won and the titans lost.\nSo the gods of the thirty-three bound Vepacitti by his limbs and neck and brought him to Sakka’s presence in the Hall of Clear Right of the gods.\nAnd as Sakka was entering and leaving the hall, Vepacitti abused and insulted him with rude, harsh words.\nSo Mātali the chariot handler addressed Sakka in verse:"}},{"id":"sn11.4:2","sourceIds":["sn11.4:2.1","sn11.4:2.2","sn11.4:2.3","sn11.4:2.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘Bhayā nu maghavā sakka,\ndubbalyā no titikkhasi;\nSuṇanto pharusaṁ vācaṁ,\nsammukhā vepacittino’ti.","en":"‘O Maghavā, O Sakka,\nis it from fear or from weakness\nthat you endure such harsh words\nin the presence of Vepacitti?’"}},{"id":"sn11.4:3","sourceIds":["sn11.4:3.1","sn11.4:3.2","sn11.4:3.3","sn11.4:3.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘Nāhaṁ bhayā na dubbalyā,\nkhamāmi vepacittino;\nKathañhi mādiso viññū,\nbālena paṭisaṁyuje’ti.","en":"‘It’s not out of fear or weakness\nthat I’m patient with Vepacitti.\nFor how can a sensible person like me\nget in a fight with a fool?’"}},{"id":"sn11.4:4","sourceIds":["sn11.4:4.1","sn11.4:4.2","sn11.4:4.3","sn11.4:4.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘Bhiyyo bālā pabhijjeyyuṁ,\nno cassa paṭisedhako;\nTasmā bhusena daṇḍena,\ndhīro bālaṁ nisedhaye’ti.","en":"‘Fools would vent even more\nif there’s no one to put a stop to them.\nSo an attentive one should stop\na fool with forceful punishment.’"}},{"id":"sn11.4:5","sourceIds":["sn11.4:5.1","sn11.4:5.2","sn11.4:5.3","sn11.4:5.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘Etadeva ahaṁ maññe,\nbālassa paṭisedhanaṁ;\nParaṁ saṅkupitaṁ ñatvā,\nyo sato upasammatī’ti.","en":"‘I think that this is the only way\nto put a stop to a fool,\nwhen you know that the other is upset,\nbe mindful and stay calm.’"}},{"id":"sn11.4:6","sourceIds":["sn11.4:6.1","sn11.4:6.2","sn11.4:6.3","sn11.4:6.4","sn11.4:6.5","sn11.4:6.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘Etadeva titikkhāya,\nvajjaṁ passāmi vāsava;\nYadā naṁ maññati bālo,\nbhayā myāyaṁ titikkhati;\nAjjhāruhati dummedho,\ngova bhiyyo palāyinan’ti.","en":"‘In this mere endurance, Vāsava,\nI see a flaw.\nWhen a fool thinks,\n“He endures me out of fear,”\nthe simpleton will go after you even harder,\nlike a cow chasing someone who runs away.’"}},{"id":"sn11.4:7","sourceIds":["sn11.4:7.1","sn11.4:7.2","sn11.4:7.3","sn11.4:7.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"‘Kāmaṁ maññatu vā mā vā,\nbhayā myāyaṁ titikkhati;\nSadatthaparamā atthā,\nkhantyā bhiyyo na vijjati.","en":"‘Let him think this if he wishes, or not—\n“He endures me out of fear.”\nFor the highest goal, one’s own,\nnaught better than patience is found."}},{"id":"sn11.4:8","sourceIds":["sn11.4:8.1","sn11.4:8.2","sn11.4:8.3","sn11.4:8.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Yo have balavā santo,\ndubbalassa titikkhati;\nTamāhu paramaṁ khantiṁ,\nniccaṁ khamati dubbalo.","en":"When a strong person\nendures a weakling,\nthey call that the ultimate patience,\nfor a weakling must always be patient."}},{"id":"sn11.4:9","sourceIds":["sn11.4:9.1","sn11.4:9.2","sn11.4:9.3","sn11.4:9.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Abalaṁ taṁ balaṁ āhu,\nyassa bālabalaṁ balaṁ;\nBalassa dhammaguttassa,\npaṭivattā na vijjati.","en":"The strength of folly\nis really just weakness, they say.\nBut no one can challenge a person\nwho’s strong, guarded by the teaching."}},{"id":"sn11.4:10","sourceIds":["sn11.4:10.1","sn11.4:10.2","sn11.4:10.3","sn11.4:10.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tasseva tena pāpiyo,\nyo kuddhaṁ paṭikujjhati;\nKuddhaṁ appaṭikujjhanto,\nsaṅgāmaṁ jeti dujjayaṁ.","en":"When you get angry at an angry person\nyou just make things worse for yourself.\nWhen you don’t get angry at an angry person\nyou win a battle hard to win."}},{"id":"sn11.4:11","sourceIds":["sn11.4:11.1","sn11.4:11.2","sn11.4:11.3","sn11.4:11.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ubhinnamatthaṁ carati,\nattano ca parassa ca;\nParaṁ saṅkupitaṁ ñatvā,\nyo sato upasammati.","en":"When you know that the other is angry,\nyou act for the good of both\nyourself and the other\nif you’re mindful and stay calm."}},{"id":"sn11.4:12","sourceIds":["sn11.4:12.1","sn11.4:12.2","sn11.4:12.3","sn11.4:12.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ubhinnaṁ tikicchantānaṁ,\nattano ca parassa ca;\nJanā maññanti bāloti,\nye dhammassa akovidā’ti.","en":"People inexpert in the teaching\nconsider one who heals both\noneself and the other\nto be a fool.’"}},{"id":"sn11.4:13","sourceIds":["sn11.4:13.1","sn11.4:13.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"So hi nāma, bhikkhave, sakko devānamindo sakaṁ puññaphalaṁ upajīvamāno devānaṁ tāvatiṁsānaṁ issariyādhipaccaṁ rajjaṁ kārento khantisoraccassa vaṇṇavādī bhavissati.\nIdha kho taṁ, bhikkhave, sobhetha yaṁ tumhe evaṁ svākkhāte dhammavinaye pabbajitā samānā khamā ca bhaveyyātha soratā cā”ti.","en":"Since, mendicants, even that Sakka, lord of gods—while living off of the fruit of his good deeds, and ruling as sovereign lord over these gods of the thirty-three—will speak in praise of patience and gentleness,\nyou can excel at this, for you who have gone forth in such a well explained teaching and training can develop patience and gentleness.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn11.4/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}