{"id":"sn12.12","title":"Phagguna of the Top-Knot","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn12.12","title":"Phagguna of the Top-Knot","units":[{"id":"sn12.12:0","sourceIds":["sn12.12:0.1","sn12.12:0.2","sn12.12:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 12.12\n2. Āhāravagga\nMoḷiyaphaggunasutta","en":"Linked Discourses 12.12\n2. Fuel\nPhagguna of the Top-Knot"}},{"id":"sn12.12:1","sourceIds":["sn12.12:1.1","sn12.12:1.2","sn12.12:1.3","sn12.12:1.4","sn12.12:1.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sāvatthiyaṁ viharati.\n“Cattārome, bhikkhave, āhārā bhūtānaṁ vā sattānaṁ ṭhitiyā sambhavesīnaṁ vā anuggahāya.\nKatame cattāro?\nKabaḷīkāro āhāro oḷāriko vā sukhumo vā, phasso dutiyo, manosañcetanā tatiyā, viññāṇaṁ catutthaṁ.\nIme kho, bhikkhave, cattāro āhārā bhūtānaṁ vā sattānaṁ ṭhitiyā sambhavesīnaṁ vā anuggahāyā”ti.","en":"At Sāvatthī.\n“Mendicants, these four fuels maintain sentient beings that have been born and help those about to be born.\nWhat four?\nEdible food, whether solid or subtle; contact is the second, mental intention the third, and consciousness the fourth.\nThese are the four fuels that maintain sentient beings that have been born and help those that are about to be born.”"}},{"id":"sn12.12:2","sourceIds":["sn12.12:2.1","sn12.12:2.2","sn12.12:2.3","sn12.12:2.4","sn12.12:2.5","sn12.12:2.6","sn12.12:2.7","sn12.12:2.8","sn12.12:2.9","sn12.12:2.10","sn12.12:2.11"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ vutte, āyasmā moḷiyaphagguno bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“ko nu kho, bhante, viññāṇāhāraṁ āhāretī”ti?\n“No kallo pañho”ti bhagavā avoca:\n“‘āhāretī’ti ahaṁ na vadāmi.\n‘Āhāretī’ti cāhaṁ vadeyyaṁ, tatrassa kallo pañho:\n‘ko nu kho, bhante, āhāretī’ti?\nEvañcāhaṁ na vadāmi.\nEvaṁ maṁ avadantaṁ yo evaṁ puccheyya:\n‘kissa nu kho, bhante, viññāṇāhāro’ti, esa kallo pañho.\nTatra kallaṁ veyyākaraṇaṁ:\n‘viññāṇāhāro āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbattiyā paccayo, tasmiṁ bhūte sati saḷāyatanaṁ, saḷāyatanapaccayā phasso’”ti.","en":"When he said this, Venerable Phagguna of the Top-Knot said to the Buddha,\n“But sir, who consumes consciousness as fuel?”\n“That’s not a cogent question,” said the Buddha.\n“I don’t speak of one who consumes.\nIf I were to speak of one who consumes, then it would be cogent to ask\nwho consumes.\nBut I don’t speak like that.\nHence it would be cogent to ask:\n‘For what is consciousness the fuel?’\nAnd a cogent answer to this would be:\n‘Consciousness as fuel is a requirement for regeneration into a new state of existence in the future. When the being is present, there are the six sense fields. The six sense fields are requirements for contact.’”"}},{"id":"sn12.12:3","sourceIds":["sn12.12:3.1","sn12.12:3.2","sn12.12:3.3","sn12.12:3.4","sn12.12:3.5","sn12.12:3.6","sn12.12:3.7","sn12.12:3.8","sn12.12:3.9","sn12.12:3.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ko nu kho, bhante, phusatī”ti?\n“No kallo pañho”ti bhagavā avoca:\n“‘phusatī’ti ahaṁ na vadāmi.\n‘Phusatī’ti cāhaṁ vadeyyaṁ, tatrassa kallo pañho:\n‘ko nu kho, bhante, phusatī’ti?\nEvañcāhaṁ na vadāmi.\nEvaṁ maṁ avadantaṁ yo evaṁ puccheyya:\n‘kiṁpaccayā nu kho, bhante, phasso’ti, esa kallo pañho.\nTatra kallaṁ veyyākaraṇaṁ:\n‘saḷāyatanapaccayā phasso, phassapaccayā vedanā’”ti.","en":"“But sir, who contacts?”\n“That’s not a cogent question,” said the Buddha.\n“I don’t speak of one who contacts.\nIf I were to speak of one who contacts, then it would be cogent to ask\nwho contacts.\nBut I don’t speak like that.\nHence it would be cogent to ask:\n‘What is a requirement for contact?’\nAnd a cogent answer to this would be:\n‘The six sense fields are requirements for contact. Contact is a requirement for feeling.’”"}},{"id":"sn12.12:4","sourceIds":["sn12.12:4.1","sn12.12:4.2","sn12.12:4.3","sn12.12:4.4","sn12.12:4.5","sn12.12:4.6","sn12.12:4.7","sn12.12:4.8","sn12.12:4.9","sn12.12:4.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ko nu kho, bhante, vedayatī”ti?\n“No kallo pañho”ti bhagavā avoca:\n“‘vedayatī’ti ahaṁ na vadāmi.\n‘Vedayatī’ti cāhaṁ vadeyyaṁ, tatrassa kallo pañho:\n‘ko nu kho, bhante, vedayatī’ti?\nEvañcāhaṁ na vadāmi.\nEvaṁ maṁ avadantaṁ yo evaṁ puccheyya:\n‘kiṁpaccayā nu kho, bhante, vedanā’ti, esa kallo pañho.\nTatra kallaṁ veyyākaraṇaṁ:\n‘phassapaccayā vedanā, vedanāpaccayā taṇhā’”ti.","en":"“But sir, who feels?”\n“That’s not a cogent question,” said the Buddha.\n“I don’t speak of one who feels.\nIf I were to speak of one who feels, then it would be cogent to ask\nwho feels.\nBut I don’t speak like that.\nHence it would be cogent to ask:\n‘What is a requirement for feeling?’\nAnd a cogent answer to this would be:\n‘Contact is a requirement for feeling. Feeling is a requirement for craving.’”"}},{"id":"sn12.12:5","sourceIds":["sn12.12:5.1","sn12.12:5.2","sn12.12:5.3","sn12.12:5.4","sn12.12:5.5","sn12.12:5.6","sn12.12:5.7","sn12.12:5.8","sn12.12:5.9","sn12.12:5.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ko nu kho, bhante, tasatī”ti?\n“No kallo pañho”ti bhagavā avoca:\n“‘tasatī’ti ahaṁ na vadāmi.\n‘Tasatī’ti cāhaṁ vadeyyaṁ, tatrassa kallo pañho:\n‘ko nu kho, bhante, tasatī’ti?\nEvañcāhaṁ na vadāmi.\nEvaṁ maṁ avadantaṁ yo evaṁ puccheyya:\n‘kiṁpaccayā nu kho, bhante, taṇhā’ti, esa kallo pañho.\nTatra kallaṁ veyyākaraṇaṁ:\n‘vedanāpaccayā taṇhā, taṇhāpaccayā upādānan’”ti.","en":"“But sir, who craves?”\n“That’s not a cogent question,” said the Buddha.\n“I don’t speak of one who craves.\nIf I were to speak of one who craves, then it would be cogent to ask\nwho craves.\nBut I don’t speak like that.\nHence it would be cogent to ask:\n‘What is a requirement for craving?’\nAnd a cogent answer to this would be:\n‘Feeling is a requirement for craving. Craving is a requirement for grasping.’”"}},{"id":"sn12.12:6","sourceIds":["sn12.12:6.1","sn12.12:6.2","sn12.12:6.3","sn12.12:6.4","sn12.12:6.5","sn12.12:6.6","sn12.12:6.7","sn12.12:6.8","sn12.12:6.9","sn12.12:6.10","sn12.12:6.11","sn12.12:6.12"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ko nu kho, bhante, upādiyatī”ti?\n“No kallo pañho”ti bhagavā avoca:\n“‘upādiyatī’ti ahaṁ na vadāmi.\n‘Upādiyatī’ti cāhaṁ vadeyyaṁ, tatrassa kallo pañho:\n‘ko nu kho, bhante, upādiyatī’ti?\nEvañcāhaṁ na vadāmi.\nEvaṁ maṁ avadantaṁ yo evaṁ puccheyya:\n‘kiṁpaccayā nu kho, bhante, upādānan’ti, esa kallo pañho.\nTatra kallaṁ veyyākaraṇaṁ:\n‘taṇhāpaccayā upādānaṁ;\nupādānapaccayā bhavo’ti …pe…\nevametassa kevalassa dukkhakkhandhassa samudayo hoti.","en":"“But sir, who grasps?”\n“That’s not a cogent question,” said the Buddha.\n“I don’t speak of one who grasps.\nIf I were to speak of one who grasps, then it would be cogent to ask\nwho grasps.\nBut I don’t speak like that.\nHence it would be cogent to ask:\n‘What is a requirement for grasping?’\nAnd a cogent answer to this would be:\n‘Craving is a requirement for grasping.\nGrasping is a requirement for continued existence.’ …\nThat is how this entire mass of suffering originates."}},{"id":"sn12.12:7","sourceIds":["sn12.12:7.1","sn12.12:7.2","sn12.12:7.3","sn12.12:7.4","sn12.12:7.5","sn12.12:7.6","sn12.12:7.7","sn12.12:7.8","sn12.12:7.9"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Channaṁ tveva, phagguna, phassāyatanānaṁ asesavirāganirodhā phassanirodho;\nphassanirodhā vedanānirodho;\nvedanānirodhā taṇhānirodho;\ntaṇhānirodhā upādānanirodho;\nupādānanirodhā bhavanirodho;\nbhavanirodhā jātinirodho;\njātinirodhā jarāmaraṇaṁ sokaparidevadukkhadomanassupāyāsā nirujjhanti.\nEvametassa kevalassa dukkhakkhandhassa nirodho hotī”ti.\nDutiyaṁ.","en":"When the six fields of contact fade away and cease with no residue left behind, contact ceases.\nWhen contact ceases, feeling ceases.\nWhen feeling ceases, craving ceases.\nWhen craving ceases, grasping ceases.\nWhen grasping ceases, continued existence ceases.\nWhen continued existence ceases, rebirth ceases.\nWhen rebirth ceases, old age and death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, sadness, and distress cease.\nThat is how this entire mass of suffering ceases.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn12.12/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}