{"id":"sn12.71","title":"Old Age and Death","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn12.71","title":"Old Age and Death","units":[{"id":"sn12.71:0","sourceIds":["sn12.71:0.1","sn12.71:0.2","sn12.71:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 12.71\n8. Samaṇabrāhmaṇavagga\nJarāmaraṇasutta","en":"Linked Discourses 12.71\n8. Ascetics and Brahmins\nOld Age and Death"}},{"id":"sn12.71:1","sourceIds":["sn12.71:1.1","sn12.71:1.2","sn12.71:1.3","sn12.71:1.4","sn12.71:1.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ me sutaṁ—\nekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.\nTatra kho bhagavā …pe…\n“ye hi keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā jarāmaraṇaṁ nappajānanti, jarāmaraṇasamudayaṁ nappajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhaṁ nappajānanti, jarāmaraṇanirodhagāminiṁ paṭipadaṁ nappajānanti,\nna me te, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu vā samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu vā brāhmaṇasammatā, na ca pana te āyasmanto sāmaññatthaṁ vā brahmaññatthaṁ vā diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharanti.","en":"So I have heard.\nAt one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.\n“Mendicants, there are ascetics and brahmins who don’t understand old age and death, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation.\nI don’t deem them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables don’t realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and don’t live having realized it with their own insight in this very life."}},{"id":"sn12.71:2","sourceIds":["sn12.71:2.1","sn12.71:2.2","sn12.71:2.3","sn12.71:2.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ye ca kho keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā jarāmaraṇaṁ pajānanti …pe… paṭipadaṁ pajānanti,\nte kho me, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā samaṇesu ceva samaṇasammatā brāhmaṇesu ca brāhmaṇasammatā, te ca panāyasmanto sāmaññatthañca brahmaññatthañca diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharantī”ti.\n(Suttanto eko.)\nPaṭhamaṁ.","en":"There are ascetics and brahmins who do understand old age and death, their origin, their cessation, and the practice that leads to their cessation.\nI deem them as true ascetics and brahmins. Those venerables realize the goal of life as an ascetic or brahmin, and live having realized it with their own insight.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn12.71/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}