{"id":"sn24.70","title":"The Self is Neither Happy Nor Suffering","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn24.70","title":"The Self is Neither Happy Nor Suffering","units":[{"id":"sn24.70:0","sourceIds":["sn24.70:0.1","sn24.70:0.2","sn24.70:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 24.70\n3. Tatiyagamanavagga\nAdukkhamasukhīsutta","en":"Linked Discourses 24.70\n3. The Third Round\nThe Self is Neither Happy Nor Suffering"}},{"id":"sn24.70:1","sourceIds":["sn24.70:1.1","sn24.70:1.2","sn24.70:1.3","sn24.70:1.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sāvatthinidānaṁ.\n“Kismiṁ nu kho, bhikkhave, sati, kiṁ upādāya, kiṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti?\n“Bhagavaṁmūlakā no, bhante, dhammā …pe….","en":"At Sāvatthī.\n“Mendicants, when what exists, because of grasping what and insisting on what, does the view arise:\n‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and healthy after death’?”\n“Our teachings are rooted in the Buddha. …”"}},{"id":"sn24.70:2","sourceIds":["sn24.70:2.1","sn24.70:2.2","sn24.70:2.3","sn24.70:2.4","sn24.70:2.5","sn24.70:2.6","sn24.70:2.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Rūpe kho, bhikkhave, sati, rūpaṁ upādāya, rūpaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti.\n“Vedanāya sati …pe…\nsaññāya sati …\nsaṅkhāresu sati …\nviññāṇe sati, viññāṇaṁ upādāya, viññāṇaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’ti.","en":"“When form exists, because of grasping form and insisting on form, the view arises:\n‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and is healthy after death.’\nWhen feeling …\nperception …\nchoices …\nconsciousness exists, because of grasping consciousness and insisting on consciousness, the view arises:\n‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and healthy after death.’"}},{"id":"sn24.70:3","sourceIds":["sn24.70:3.1","sn24.70:3.2","sn24.70:3.3","sn24.70:3.4","sn24.70:3.5","sn24.70:3.6","sn24.70:3.7","sn24.70:3.8","sn24.70:3.9","sn24.70:3.10","sn24.70:3.11","sn24.70:3.12","sn24.70:3.13","sn24.70:3.14","sn24.70:3.15","sn24.70:3.16","sn24.70:3.17","sn24.70:3.18","sn24.70:3.19","sn24.70:3.20","sn24.70:3.21","sn24.70:3.22"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Taṁ kiṁ maññatha, bhikkhave,\nrūpaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?\n“Aniccaṁ, bhante” …pe… vipariṇāmadhammaṁ,\napi nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjeyya:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.\n“Iti kho, bhikkhave, yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.\nTasmiṁ sati, tadupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti.\n“Vedanā …pe…\nsaññā …\nsaṅkhārā …\nviññāṇaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?\n“Aniccaṁ, bhante” …pe… vipariṇāmadhammaṁ,\napi nu taṁ anupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjeyya:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.\n“Iti kho, bhikkhave, yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.\nTasmiṁ sati, tadupādāya evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti.\nChabbīsatimaṁ.\nTatiyapeyyālo.","en":"What do you think, mendicants?\nIs form permanent or impermanent?”\n“Impermanent, sir.” …\n“And so, what’s impermanent is suffering.\nWhen this exists, grasping at this, the view arises:\n‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and is healthy after death.’\nIs feeling …\nperception …\nchoices …\nconsciousness permanent or impermanent?”\n“Impermanent, sir.” …\n“But by not grasping what’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would such a view arise?”\n“No, sir.”\n“And so, what’s impermanent is suffering.\nWhen this exists, grasping at this, the view arises:\n‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and healthy after death.’”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn24.70/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}