{"id":"sn24.96","title":"The Self is Neither Happy Nor Suffering","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn24.96","title":"The Self is Neither Happy Nor Suffering","units":[{"id":"sn24.96:0","sourceIds":["sn24.96:0.1","sn24.96:0.2","sn24.96:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 24.96\n4. Catutthagamanavagga\nAdukkhamasukhīsutta","en":"Linked Discourses 24.96\n4. The Fourth Round\nThe Self is Neither Happy Nor Suffering"}},{"id":"sn24.96:1","sourceIds":["sn24.96:1.1","sn24.96:1.2","sn24.96:1.3","sn24.96:1.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sāvatthinidānaṁ.\n“Kismiṁ nu kho, bhikkhave, sati, kiṁ upādāya, kiṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’”ti?\n“Bhagavaṁmūlakā no, bhante, dhammā …pe….","en":"At Sāvatthī.\n“Mendicants, when what exists, because of grasping what and insisting on what, does the view arise:\n‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and is healthy after death’?”\n“Our teachings are rooted in the Buddha. …”"}},{"id":"sn24.96:2","sourceIds":["sn24.96:2.1","sn24.96:2.2","sn24.96:2.3","sn24.96:2.4","sn24.96:2.5","sn24.96:2.6","sn24.96:2.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Rūpe kho, bhikkhave, sati, rūpaṁ upādāya, rūpaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’ti.\nVedanāya sati …\nsaññāya sati …\nsaṅkhāresu sati …\nviññāṇe sati, viññāṇaṁ upādāya, viññāṇaṁ abhinivissa evaṁ diṭṭhi uppajjati:\n‘adukkhamasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṁ maraṇā’ti.","en":"“When form exists, because of grasping form and insisting on form, the view arises:\n‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and healthy after death.’\nWhen feeling …\nperception …\nchoices …\nconsciousness exists, because of grasping consciousness and insisting on consciousness, the view arises:\n‘The self is neither happy nor suffering, and is healthy after death.’"}},{"id":"sn24.96:3","sourceIds":["sn24.96:3.1","sn24.96:3.2","sn24.96:3.3","sn24.96:3.4","sn24.96:3.5","sn24.96:3.6","sn24.96:3.7","sn24.96:3.8","sn24.96:3.9","sn24.96:3.10","sn24.96:3.11","sn24.96:3.12","sn24.96:3.13","sn24.96:3.14","sn24.96:3.15","sn24.96:3.16","sn24.96:3.17","sn24.96:3.18"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Taṁ kiṁ maññatha, bhikkhave,\nrūpaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?\n“Aniccaṁ, bhante”.\n“Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vā taṁ sukhaṁ vā”ti?\n“Dukkhaṁ, bhante”.\n“Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vipariṇāmadhammaṁ, kallaṁ nu taṁ samanupassituṁ:\n‘etaṁ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attā’”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.\n“Vedanā …\nsaññā …\nsaṅkhārā …\nviññāṇaṁ niccaṁ vā aniccaṁ vā”ti?\n“Aniccaṁ, bhante”.\n“Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vā taṁ sukhaṁ vā”ti?\n“Dukkhaṁ, bhante”.\n“Yaṁ panāniccaṁ dukkhaṁ vipariṇāmadhammaṁ, kallaṁ nu taṁ samanupassituṁ:\n‘etaṁ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attā’”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.","en":"What do you think, mendicants?\nIs form permanent or impermanent?”\n“Impermanent, sir.”\n“But if it’s impermanent, is it suffering or happiness?”\n“Suffering, sir.”\n“But if it’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, is it fit to be regarded thus:\n‘This is mine, I am this, this is my self’?”\n“No, sir.”\n“Is feeling …\nperception …\nchoices …\nconsciousness permanent or impermanent?”\n“Impermanent, sir.”\n“But if it’s impermanent, is it suffering or happiness?”\n“Suffering, sir.”\n“But if it’s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, is it fit to be regarded thus:\n‘This is mine, I am this, this is my self’?”\n“No, sir.”"}},{"id":"sn24.96:4","sourceIds":["sn24.96:4.1","sn24.96:4.2","sn24.96:4.3","sn24.96:4.4","sn24.96:4.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Tasmātiha, bhikkhave, yaṁ kiñci rūpaṁ atītānāgatapaccuppannaṁ ajjhattaṁ vā bahiddhā vā oḷārikaṁ vā sukhumaṁ vā hīnaṁ vā paṇītaṁ vā yaṁ dūre santike vā, sabbaṁ rūpaṁ: ‘netaṁ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti evametaṁ yathābhūtaṁ sammappaññāya daṭṭhabbaṁ.\nYā kāci vedanā …\nyā kāci saññā …\nye keci saṅkhārā …\nyaṁ kiñci viññāṇaṁ atītānāgatapaccuppannaṁ ajjhattaṁ vā bahiddhā vā, oḷārikaṁ vā sukhumaṁ vā hīnaṁ vā paṇītaṁ vā yaṁ dūre santike vā, sabbaṁ viññāṇaṁ: ‘netaṁ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti evametaṁ yathābhūtaṁ sammappaññāya daṭṭhabbaṁ.","en":"“So you should truly see any kind of form at all—past, future, or present; internal or external; solid or subtle; inferior or superior; far or near: all form—with right understanding: ‘This is not mine, I am not this, this is not my self.’\nYou should truly see any kind of feeling …\nperception …\nchoices …\nconsciousness at all—past, future, or present; internal or external; solid or subtle; inferior or superior; far or near: all consciousness—with right understanding: ‘This is not mine, I am not this, this is not my self.’"}},{"id":"sn24.96:5","sourceIds":["sn24.96:5.1","sn24.96:5.2","sn24.96:5.3","sn24.96:5.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ passaṁ, bhikkhave, sutavā ariyasāvako rūpasmimpi nibbindati, vedanāyapi nibbindati, saññāyapi nibbindati, saṅkhāresupi nibbindati, viññāṇasmimpi nibbindati.\nNibbindaṁ virajjati; virāgā vimuccati. Vimuttasmiṁ vimuttamiti ñāṇaṁ hoti.\n‘Khīṇā jāti, vusitaṁ brahmacariyaṁ, kataṁ karaṇīyaṁ, nāparaṁ itthattāyā’ti pajānātī”ti.\nCatutthapeyyālo.","en":"Seeing this, a learned noble disciple grows disillusioned with form, feeling, perception, choices, and consciousness.\nBeing disillusioned, desire fades away. When desire fades away they’re freed. When they’re freed, they know they’re freed.\nThey understand: ‘Rebirth is ended, the spiritual journey has been completed, what had to be done has been done, there is nothing further for this place.’”"}},{"id":"sn24.96:6","sourceIds":["sn24.96:6.0","sn24.96:6.1","sn24.96:6.2","sn24.96:6.3","sn24.96:6.4","sn24.96:6.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassuddānaṁ\nPurimagamane aṭṭhārasa veyyākaraṇā,\nDutiyagamane chabbīsaṁ vitthāretabbāni;\nTatiyagamane chabbīsaṁ vitthāretabbāni,\nCatutthagamane chabbīsaṁ vitthāretabbāni.\nDiṭṭhisaṁyuttaṁ samattaṁ.","en":"The Linked Discourses on views are complete."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn24.96/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}