{"id":"sn35.233","title":"With Kāmabhū","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn35.233","title":"With Kāmabhū","units":[{"id":"sn35.233:0","sourceIds":["sn35.233:0.1","sn35.233:0.2","sn35.233:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 35.233\n18. Samuddavagga\nKāmabhūsutta","en":"Linked Discourses 35.233\n18. The Ocean\nWith Kāmabhū"}},{"id":"sn35.233:1","sourceIds":["sn35.233:1.1","sn35.233:1.2","sn35.233:1.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ekaṁ samayaṁ āyasmā ca ānando āyasmā ca kāmabhū kosambiyaṁ viharanti ghositārāme.\nAtha kho āyasmā kāmabhū sāyanhasamayaṁ paṭisallānā vuṭṭhito yenāyasmā ānando tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā āyasmatā ānandena saddhiṁ sammodi.\nSammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho āyasmā kāmabhū āyasmantaṁ ānandaṁ etadavoca:","en":"At one time the venerables Ānanda and Kāmabhū were staying near Kosambī in Ghosita’s monastery.\nThen in the late afternoon, Venerable Kāmabhū came out of retreat, went to Venerable Ānanda, and exchanged greetings with him.\nWhen the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to Ānanda:"}},{"id":"sn35.233:2","sourceIds":["sn35.233:2.1","sn35.233:2.2","sn35.233:2.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Kiṁ nu kho, āvuso ānanda, cakkhu rūpānaṁ saṁyojanaṁ, rūpā cakkhussa saṁyojanaṁ …pe…\njivhā rasānaṁ saṁyojanaṁ, rasā jivhāya saṁyojanaṁ …pe…\nmano dhammānaṁ saṁyojanaṁ, dhammā manassa saṁyojanan”ti?","en":"“Reverend Ānanda, which is it? Is the eye the fetter of sights, or are sights the fetter of the eye?\nIs the ear … nose … tongue … body …\nmind the fetter of ideas, or are ideas the fetter of the mind?”"}},{"id":"sn35.233:3","sourceIds":["sn35.233:3.1","sn35.233:3.2","sn35.233:3.3","sn35.233:3.4","sn35.233:3.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Na kho, āvuso kāmabhū, cakkhu rūpānaṁ saṁyojanaṁ, na rūpā cakkhussa saṁyojanaṁ.\nYañca tattha tadubhayaṁ paṭicca uppajjati chandarāgo, taṁ tattha saṁyojanaṁ …pe…\nna jivhā rasānaṁ saṁyojanaṁ, na rasā jivhāya saṁyojanaṁ …pe…\nna mano dhammānaṁ saṁyojanaṁ, na dhammā manassa saṁyojanaṁ.\nYañca tattha tadubhayaṁ paṭicca uppajjati chandarāgo taṁ tattha saṁyojanaṁ.","en":"“Reverend Kāmabhū, the eye is not the fetter of sights, nor are sights the fetter of the eye.\nThe fetter there is the desire and greed that arises from the pair of them.\nThe ear … nose … tongue … body …\nmind is not the fetter of ideas, nor are ideas the fetter of the mind.\nThe fetter there is the desire and greed that arises from the pair of them."}},{"id":"sn35.233:4","sourceIds":["sn35.233:4.1","sn35.233:4.2","sn35.233:4.3","sn35.233:4.4","sn35.233:4.5","sn35.233:4.6","sn35.233:4.7","sn35.233:4.8","sn35.233:4.9","sn35.233:4.10","sn35.233:4.11"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Seyyathāpi, āvuso, kāḷo ca balībaddo odāto ca balībaddo ekena dāmena vā yottena vā saṁyuttā assu.\nYo nu kho evaṁ vadeyya:\n‘kāḷo balībaddo odātassa balībaddassa saṁyojanaṁ, odāto balībaddo kāḷassa balībaddassa saṁyojanan’ti, sammā nu kho so vadamāno vadeyyā”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, āvuso”.\n“Na kho, āvuso, kāḷo balībaddo odātassa balībaddassa saṁyojanaṁ, napi odāto balībaddo kāḷassa balībaddassa saṁyojanaṁ.\nYena ca kho te ekena dāmena vā yottena vā saṁyuttā, taṁ tattha saṁyojanaṁ.\nEvameva kho, āvuso, na cakkhu rūpānaṁ saṁyojanaṁ, na rūpā cakkhussa saṁyojanaṁ …pe…\nna jivhā …pe…\nna mano …pe…\nyañca tattha tadubhayaṁ paṭicca uppajjati chandarāgo, taṁ tattha saṁyojanan”ti.\nChaṭṭhaṁ.","en":"Suppose there was a black ox and a white ox yoked by a single harness or yoke.\nWould it be right to say that\nthe black ox is the yoke of the white ox, or the white ox is the yoke of the black ox?”\n“No, reverend.\nThe black ox is not the yoke of the white ox, nor is the white ox the yoke of the black ox.\nThe yoke there is the single harness or yoke that they’re yoked by.”\n“In the same way, the eye is not the fetter of sights, nor are sights the fetter of the eye.\nThe ear … nose … tongue … body …\nmind is not the fetter of ideas, nor are ideas the fetter of the mind.\nThe fetter there is the desire and greed that arises from the pair of them.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn35.233/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}