{"id":"sn36.21","title":"With Sīvaka","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn36.21","title":"With Sīvaka","units":[{"id":"sn36.21:0","sourceIds":["sn36.21:0.1","sn36.21:0.2","sn36.21:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 36.21\n3. Aṭṭhasatapariyāyavagga\nSīvakasutta","en":"Linked Discourses 36.21\n3. The Explanation of the Hundred and Eight\nWith Sīvaka"}},{"id":"sn36.21:1","sourceIds":["sn36.21:1.1","sn36.21:1.2","sn36.21:1.3","sn36.21:1.4","sn36.21:1.5","sn36.21:1.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā rājagahe viharati veḷuvane kalandakanivāpe.\nAtha kho moḷiyasīvako paribbājako yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavatā saddhiṁ sammodi.\nSammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho moḷiyasīvako paribbājako bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“santi, bho gotama, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:\n‘yaṁ kiñcāyaṁ purisapuggalo paṭisaṁvedeti sukhaṁ vā dukkhaṁ vā adukkhamasukhaṁ vā sabbaṁ taṁ pubbekatahetū’ti.\nIdha bhavaṁ gotamo kimāhā”ti?","en":"At one time the Buddha was staying near Rājagaha in the Bamboo Grove, the squirrels’ feeding ground.\nThen the wanderer Moḷiyasīvaka went up to the Buddha and exchanged greetings with him.\nWhen the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side and said to the Buddha:\n“Worthy Gotama, there are some ascetics and brahmins who have this doctrine and view:\n‘Everything this individual person experiences—pleasurable, painful, or neutral—is because of past deeds.’\nWhat does the worthy Gotama say about this?”"}},{"id":"sn36.21:2","sourceIds":["sn36.21:2.1","sn36.21:2.2","sn36.21:2.3","sn36.21:2.4","sn36.21:2.5","sn36.21:2.6","sn36.21:2.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Pittasamuṭṭhānānipi kho, sīvaka, idhekaccāni vedayitāni uppajjanti.\nSāmampi kho etaṁ, sīvaka, veditabbaṁ yathā pittasamuṭṭhānānipi idhekaccāni vedayitāni uppajjanti.\nLokassapi kho etaṁ, sīvaka, saccasammataṁ yathā pittasamuṭṭhānānipi idhekaccāni vedayitāni uppajjanti.\nTatra, sīvaka, ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:\n‘yaṁ kiñcāyaṁ purisapuggalo paṭisaṁvedeti sukhaṁ vā dukkhaṁ vā adukkhamasukhaṁ vā sabbaṁ taṁ pubbekatahetū’ti.\nYañca sāmaṁ ñātaṁ tañca atidhāvanti, yañca loke saccasammataṁ tañca atidhāvanti.\nTasmā tesaṁ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ micchāti vadāmi.","en":"“Sīvaka, some feelings stem from bile disorders.\nYou can know this from your own personal experience,\nand it is generally deemed to be true.\nSince this is so, the ascetics and brahmins whose view is that\neverything an individual person experiences is because of past deeds\ngo beyond personal experience and beyond what is generally deemed to be true.\nSo those ascetics and brahmins are wrong, I say."}},{"id":"sn36.21:3","sourceIds":["sn36.21:3.1","sn36.21:3.2","sn36.21:3.3","sn36.21:3.4","sn36.21:3.5","sn36.21:3.6","sn36.21:3.7","sn36.21:3.8","sn36.21:3.9","sn36.21:3.10","sn36.21:3.11","sn36.21:3.12","sn36.21:3.13","sn36.21:3.14","sn36.21:3.15"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Semhasamuṭṭhānānipi kho, sīvaka …pe…\nvātasamuṭṭhānānipi kho, sīvaka …pe…\nsannipātikānipi kho, sīvaka …pe…\nutupariṇāmajānipi kho, sīvaka …pe…\nvisamaparihārajānipi kho, sīvaka …pe…\nopakkamikānipi kho, sīvaka …pe…\nkammavipākajānipi kho, sīvaka, idhekaccāni vedayitāni uppajjanti.\nSāmampi kho etaṁ, sīvaka, veditabbaṁ.\nYathā kammavipākajānipi idhekaccāni vedayitāni uppajjanti;\nlokassapi kho etaṁ, sīvaka, saccasammataṁ.\nYathā kammavipākajānipi idhekaccāni vedayitāni uppajjanti;\ntatra, sīvaka, ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:\n‘yaṁ kiñcāyaṁ purisapuggalo paṭisaṁvedeti sukhaṁ vā dukkhaṁ vā adukkhamasukhaṁ vā sabbaṁ taṁ pubbekatahetū’ti.\nYañca sāmaṁ ñātaṁ tañca atidhāvanti yañca loke saccasammataṁ tañca atidhāvanti.\nTasmā ‘tesaṁ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ micchā’ti vadāmī”ti.","en":"Some feelings stem from phlegm disorders …\nwind disorders …\ntheir conjunction …\nchange in weather …\nnot taking care of yourself …\nexertion …\nSome feelings are the result of past deeds.\nYou can know this from your own personal experience,\nand it is generally deemed to be true.\nSince this is so, the ascetics and brahmins whose view is that\neverything an individual person experiences is because of past deeds\ngo beyond personal experience and beyond what is generally deemed to be true.\nSo those ascetics and brahmins are wrong, I say.”"}},{"id":"sn36.21:4","sourceIds":["sn36.21:4.1","sn36.21:4.2","sn36.21:4.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ vutte, moḷiyasīvako paribbājako bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“abhikkantaṁ, bho gotama, abhikkantaṁ, bho gotama …pe…\nupāsakaṁ maṁ bhavaṁ gotamo dhāretu ajjatagge pāṇupetaṁ saraṇaṁ gatan”ti.","en":"When he said this, the wanderer Moḷiyasīvaka said to the Buddha,\n“Excellent, worthy Gotama! Excellent! …\nFrom this day forth, may the worthy Gotama remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life.”"}},{"id":"sn36.21:5","sourceIds":["sn36.21:5.1","sn36.21:5.2","sn36.21:5.3","sn36.21:5.4","sn36.21:5.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Pittaṁ semhañca vāto ca,\nSannipātā utūni ca;\nVisamaṁ opakkamikaṁ,\nKammavipākena aṭṭhamī”ti.\nPaṭhamaṁ.","en":"“Bile, phlegm, and wind,\ntheir conjunction, and the weather,\nnot taking care of yourself, exertion,\nand the result of deeds is the eighth.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn36.21/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}