{"id":"sn42.13","title":"With Pāṭaliya","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"sn42.13","title":"With Pāṭaliya","units":[{"id":"sn42.13:0","sourceIds":["sn42.13:0.1","sn42.13:0.2","sn42.13:0.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Saṁyutta Nikāya 42.13\n1. Gāmaṇivagga\nPāṭaliyasutta","en":"Linked Discourses 42.13\n1. Chiefs\nWith Pāṭaliya"}},{"id":"sn42.13:1","sourceIds":["sn42.13:1.1","sn42.13:1.2","sn42.13:1.3","sn42.13:1.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā koliyesu viharati uttaraṁ nāma koliyānaṁ nigamo.\nAtha kho pāṭaliyo gāmaṇi yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho pāṭaliyo gāmaṇi bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“sutaṁ metaṁ, bhante:\n‘samaṇo gotamo māyaṁ jānātī’ti.","en":"At one time the Buddha was staying in the land of the Koliyans, where they have a town named Uttarakā.\nThen Pāṭaliya the chief went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and said to him:\n“Sir, I have heard this:\n‘The ascetic Gotama knows deceit.’"}},{"id":"sn42.13:2","sourceIds":["sn42.13:2.1","sn42.13:2.2","sn42.13:2.3","sn42.13:2.4","sn42.13:2.5","sn42.13:2.6","sn42.13:2.7","sn42.13:2.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ye te, bhante, evamāhaṁsu: ‘samaṇo gotamo māyaṁ jānātī’ti, kacci te, bhante, bhagavato vuttavādino, na ca bhagavantaṁ abhūtena abbhācikkhanti, dhammassa cānudhammaṁ byākaronti, na ca koci sahadhammiko vādānuvādo gārayhaṁ ṭhānaṁ āgacchati?\nAnabbhācikkhitukāmā hi mayaṁ, bhante, bhagavantan”ti.\n“Ye te, gāmaṇi, evamāhaṁsu: ‘samaṇo gotamo māyaṁ jānātī’ti, vuttavādino ceva me, te na ca maṁ abhūtena abbhācikkhanti, dhammassa cānudhammaṁ byākaronti, na ca koci sahadhammiko vādānuvādo gārayhaṁ ṭhānaṁ āgacchatī”ti.\n“Saccaṁyeva kira, bho, mayaṁ tesaṁ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ na saddahāma:\n‘samaṇo gotamo māyaṁ jānātī’ti, samaṇo khalu bho gotamo māyāvī”ti.\n“Yo nu kho, gāmaṇi, evaṁ vadeti: ‘ahaṁ māyaṁ jānāmī’ti, so evaṁ vadeti: ‘ahaṁ māyāvī’”ti.\n“Tatheva taṁ bhagavā hoti, tatheva taṁ sugata hotī”ti.\n“Tena hi, gāmaṇi, taññevettha paṭipucchissāmi; yathā te khameyya, tathā taṁ byākareyyāsi—","en":"I trust those who say this repeat what the Buddha has said, and do not misrepresent him with an untruth? Is their explanation in line with the teaching? Are there any legitimate grounds for rebuttal and criticism?\nFor we don’t want to misrepresent the Blessed One.”\n“Chief, those who say this repeat what I have said, and don’t misrepresent me with an untruth. Their explanation is in line with the teaching, and there are no legitimate grounds for rebuttal and criticism.”\n“Sir, we didn’t believe that what those ascetics and brahmins said was really true.\nBut it seems the ascetic Gotama is deceitful!”\n“Chief, does someone who says ‘I know deceit’ also say ‘I am deceitful’?”\n“That’s right, Blessed One! That’s right, Holy One!”\n“Well then, chief, I’ll ask you about this in return, and you can answer as you like."}},{"id":"sn42.13:3","sourceIds":["sn42.13:3.1","sn42.13:3.2","sn42.13:3.3","sn42.13:3.4","sn42.13:3.5","sn42.13:3.6","sn42.13:3.7","sn42.13:3.8","sn42.13:3.9","sn42.13:3.10","sn42.13:3.11","sn42.13:3.12","sn42.13:3.13","sn42.13:3.14"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, gāmaṇi,\njānāsi tvaṁ koliyānaṁ lambacūḷake bhaṭe”ti?\n“Jānāmahaṁ, bhante, koliyānaṁ lambacūḷake bhaṭe”ti.\n“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, gāmaṇi, kimatthiyā koliyānaṁ lambacūḷakā bhaṭā”ti?\n“Ye ca, bhante, koliyānaṁ corā te ca paṭisedhetuṁ, yāni ca koliyānaṁ dūteyyāni tāni ca vahātuṁ, etadatthiyā, bhante, koliyānaṁ lambacūḷakā bhaṭā”ti.\n“Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, gāmaṇi,\njānāsi tvaṁ koliyānaṁ lambacūḷake bhaṭe sīlavante vā te dussīle vā”ti?\n“Jānāmahaṁ, bhante, koliyānaṁ lambacūḷake bhaṭe dussīle pāpadhamme; ye ca loke dussīlā pāpadhammā koliyānaṁ lambacūḷakā bhaṭā tesaṁ aññatarā”ti.\n“Yo nu kho, gāmaṇi, evaṁ vadeyya:\n‘pāṭaliyo gāmaṇi jānāti koliyānaṁ lambacūḷake bhaṭe dussīle pāpadhamme, pāṭaliyopi gāmaṇi dussīlo pāpadhammo’ti, sammā nu kho so vadamāno vadeyyā”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante.\nAññe, bhante, koliyānaṁ lambacūḷakā bhaṭā, aññohamasmi. Aññathādhammā koliyānaṁ lambacūḷakā bhaṭā, aññathādhammohamasmī”ti.\n“Tvañhi nāma, gāmaṇi, lacchasi: ‘pāṭaliyo gāmaṇi jānāti koliyānaṁ lambacūḷake bhaṭe dussīle pāpadhamme, na ca pāṭaliyo gāmaṇi dussīlo pāpadhammo’ti, kasmā tathāgato na lacchati: ‘tathāgato māyaṁ jānāti, na ca tathāgato māyāvī’ti?\nMāyañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, māyāya ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca māyāvī kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.","en":"What do you think, chief?\nDo you know the Koliyan officers with drooping headdresses?”\n“I know them, sir.”\n“And what’s their job?”\n“To put a stop to bandits and to deliver messages for the Koliyans.”\n“What do you think, chief?\nAre the Koliyan officers with drooping headdresses moral or immoral?”\n“I know that they’re immoral, of bad character, sir. They are among those in the world who are immoral and of bad character.”\n“Would it be right to say that\nPāṭaliya knows the Kolyian officers with drooping headdresses who are immoral, of bad character, so he too must be immoral and of bad character?”\n“No, sir.\nI’m quite different from the Koliyan officers with drooping headdresses; we have quite different characters.”\n“So if you can know those officers of bad character while you are not of bad character, why can’t the Realized One know deceit, without being deceitful?\nI understand deceit and its result. And I understand how the deceitful practice so that when their body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell."}},{"id":"sn42.13:4","sourceIds":["sn42.13:4.1","sn42.13:4.2","sn42.13:4.3","sn42.13:4.4","sn42.13:4.5","sn42.13:4.6","sn42.13:4.7","sn42.13:4.8","sn42.13:4.9","sn42.13:4.10"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Pāṇātipātañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, pāṇātipātassa ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca pāṇātipātī kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.\nAdinnādānañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, adinnādānassa ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca adinnādāyī kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.\nKāmesumicchācārañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, kāmesumicchācārassa ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca kāmesumicchācārī kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.\nMusāvādañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, musāvādassa ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca musāvādī kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.\nPisuṇavācañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, pisuṇavācāya ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca pisuṇavāco kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.\nPharusavācañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, pharusavācāya ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca pharusavāco kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.\nSamphappalāpañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, samphappalāpassa ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca samphappalāpī kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.\nAbhijjhañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, abhijjhāya ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca abhijjhālu kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.\nByāpādapadosañcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, byāpādapadosassa ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca byāpannacitto kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.\nMicchādiṭṭhiñcāhaṁ, gāmaṇi, pajānāmi, micchādiṭṭhiyā ca vipākaṁ, yathāpaṭipanno ca micchādiṭṭhiko kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā apāyaṁ duggatiṁ vinipātaṁ nirayaṁ upapajjati tañca pajānāmi.","en":"I understand killing living creatures and its result. And I understand how those who kill living creatures practice so that when their body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell.\nI understand stealing …\nsexual misconduct …\nlying …\nbackbiting …\nharsh speech …\ntalking nonsense …\ncovetousness …\nill will …\nwrong view and its result. And I understand how those who have wrong view practice so that when their body breaks up, after death, they’re reborn in a place of loss, a bad place, the underworld, hell."}},{"id":"sn42.13:5","sourceIds":["sn42.13:5.1","sn42.13:5.2","sn42.13:5.3","sn42.13:5.4","sn42.13:5.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Santi hi, gāmaṇi, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:\n‘yo koci pāṇamatipāteti, sabbo so diṭṭheva dhamme dukkhaṁ domanassaṁ paṭisaṁvedayati.\nYo koci adinnaṁ ādiyati, sabbo so diṭṭheva dhamme dukkhaṁ domanassaṁ paṭisaṁvedayati.\nYo koci kāmesu micchā carati, sabbo so diṭṭheva dhamme dukkhaṁ domanassaṁ paṭisaṁvedayati.\nYo koci musā bhaṇati, sabbo so diṭṭheva dhamme dukkhaṁ domanassaṁ paṭisaṁvedayatī’ti.","en":"There are some ascetics and brahmins who have this doctrine and view:\n‘Everyone who kills living creatures experiences pain and sadness in this very life.\nEveryone who steals …\ncommits sexual misconduct …\nlies experiences pain and sadness in this very life.’"}},{"id":"sn42.13:6","sourceIds":["sn42.13:6.1","sn42.13:6.2","sn42.13:6.3","sn42.13:6.4","sn42.13:6.5","sn42.13:6.6","sn42.13:6.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Dissati kho pana, gāmaṇi, idhekacco mālī kuṇḍalī sunhāto suvilitto kappitakesamassu itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricārento.\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso kiṁ akāsi mālī kuṇḍalī sunhāto suvilitto kappitakesamassu itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricāretī’ti?\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso rañño paccatthikaṁ pasayha jīvitā voropesi.\nTassa rājā attamano abhihāramadāsi.\nTenāyaṁ puriso mālī kuṇḍalī sunhāto suvilitto kappitakesamassu, itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricāretī’ti.","en":"But you can see someone, garlanded and adorned, nicely bathed and anointed, hair and beard dressed, taking his pleasure with women as if he were a king.\nYou might ask someone:\n‘My man, what did that man do?’\nAnd they’d reply:\n‘My man, that man attacked the king’s enemy and killed them.\nThe king was delighted and gave him this reward.\nThat’s why he’s garlanded and adorned, nicely bathed and anointed, hair and beard dressed, taking his pleasure with women as if he were a king.’"}},{"id":"sn42.13:7","sourceIds":["sn42.13:7.1","sn42.13:7.2","sn42.13:7.3","sn42.13:7.4","sn42.13:7.5","sn42.13:7.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Dissati kho, gāmaṇi, idhekacco daḷhāya rajjuyā pacchābāhaṁ gāḷhabandhanaṁ bandhitvā khuramuṇḍaṁ karitvā kharassarena paṇavena rathiyāya rathiyaṁ siṅghāṭakena siṅghāṭakaṁ parinetvā, dakkhiṇena dvārena nikkhāmetvā, dakkhiṇato nagarassa sīsaṁ chijjamāno.\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso kiṁ akāsi, daḷhāya rajjuyā pacchābāhaṁ gāḷhabandhanaṁ bandhitvā khuramuṇḍaṁ karitvā kharassarena paṇavena rathiyāya rathiyaṁ siṅghāṭakena siṅghāṭakaṁ parinetvā dakkhiṇena dvārena nikkhāmetvā dakkhiṇato nagarassa sīsaṁ chindatī’ti?\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso rājaverī itthiṁ vā purisaṁ vā jīvitā voropesi,\ntena naṁ rājāno gahetvā evarūpaṁ kammakāraṇaṁ kārentī’ti.","en":"And you can see someone else, his arms tied tightly behind his back with a strong rope. His head is shaven and he’s marched from street to street and from square to square to the beating of a harsh drum. Then he’s taken out the south gate and there, to the south of the city, they chop off his head.\nYou might ask someone:\n‘My man, what did that man do?’\nAnd they’d reply:\n‘My man, that man is an enemy of the king, and he has murdered a man or a woman.\nThat’s why the rulers arrested him and inflicted such punishment.’"}},{"id":"sn42.13:8","sourceIds":["sn42.13:8.1","sn42.13:8.2","sn42.13:8.3","sn42.13:8.4","sn42.13:8.5","sn42.13:8.6","sn42.13:8.7","sn42.13:8.8","sn42.13:8.9","sn42.13:8.10","sn42.13:8.11","sn42.13:8.12","sn42.13:8.13","sn42.13:8.14"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, gāmaṇi,\napi nu te evarūpaṁ diṭṭhaṁ vā sutaṁ vā”ti?\n“Diṭṭhañca no, bhante, sutañca suyyissati cā”ti.\n“Tatra, gāmaṇi, ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:\n‘yo koci pāṇamatipāteti, sabbo so diṭṭheva dhamme dukkhaṁ domanassaṁ paṭisaṁvedayatī’ti, saccaṁ vā te āhaṁsu musā vā”ti?\n“Musā, bhante”.\n“Ye pana te tucchaṁ musā vilapanti, sīlavanto vā te dussīlā vā”ti?\n“Dussīlā, bhante”.\n“Ye pana te dussīlā pāpadhammā micchāpaṭipannā vā te sammāpaṭipannā vā”ti?\n“Micchāpaṭipannā, bhante”.\n“Ye pana te micchāpaṭipannā micchādiṭṭhikā vā te sammādiṭṭhikā vā”ti?\n“Micchādiṭṭhikā, bhante”.\n“Ye pana te micchādiṭṭhikā kallaṁ nu tesu pasīditun”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.","en":"What do you think, chief?\nHave you seen or heard of such a thing?”\n“Sir, we have seen it and heard of it, and we will hear of it again.”\n“Since this is so, the ascetics and brahmins whose view is that\neveryone who kills living creatures experiences pain and sadness in this very life: are they right or wrong?”\n“They’re wrong, sir.”\n“But those who speak hollow, false nonsense: are they moral or immoral?”\n“Immoral, sir.”\n“And are those who are immoral, of bad character practicing wrongly or rightly?”\n“They’re practicing wrongly, sir.”\n“And do those who are practicing wrongly have wrong view or right view?”\n“They have wrong view, sir.”\n“But is it appropriate to have confidence in those of wrong view?”\n“No, sir.”"}},{"id":"sn42.13:9","sourceIds":["sn42.13:9.1","sn42.13:9.2","sn42.13:9.3","sn42.13:9.4","sn42.13:9.5","sn42.13:9.6","sn42.13:9.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Dissati kho pana, gāmaṇi, idhekacco mālī kuṇḍalī …pe… itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricārento.\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso kiṁ akāsi mālī kuṇḍalī …pe… itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricāretī’ti?\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso rañño paccatthikassa pasayha ratanaṁ ahāsi.\nTassa rājā attamano abhihāramadāsi.\nTenāyaṁ puriso mālī kuṇḍalī …pe… itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricāretī’ti.","en":"“You can see someone, garlanded and adorned …\n‘My man, that man attacked the king’s enemy and took their valuables.\nThe king was delighted and gave him this reward. …’ …"}},{"id":"sn42.13:10","sourceIds":["sn42.13:10.1","sn42.13:10.2","sn42.13:10.3","sn42.13:10.4","sn42.13:10.5","sn42.13:10.6","sn42.13:10.7","sn42.13:10.8","sn42.13:10.9","sn42.13:10.10","sn42.13:10.11","sn42.13:10.12"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Dissati kho, gāmaṇi, idhekacco daḷhāya rajjuyā …pe… dakkhiṇato nagarassa sīsaṁ chijjamāno tamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso kiṁ akāsi daḷhāya rajjuyā …pe… dakkhiṇato nagarassa sīsaṁ chindatī’ti?\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso gāmā vā araññā vā adinnaṁ theyyasaṅkhātaṁ ādiyi.\nTena naṁ rājāno gahetvā evarūpaṁ kammakāraṇaṁ kārentī’ti.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, gāmaṇi,\napi nu te evarūpaṁ diṭṭhaṁ vā sutaṁ vā”ti?\n“Diṭṭhañca no, bhante, sutañca suyyissati cā”ti.\n“Tatra, gāmaṇi, ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:\n‘yo koci adinnaṁ ādiyati, sabbo so diṭṭheva dhamme dukkhaṁ domanassaṁ paṭisaṁvedayatī’ti, saccaṁ vā te āhaṁsu musā vāti …pe…\nkallaṁ nu tesu pasīditun”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.","en":"And you can see someone else, his arms tied tightly behind his back …\n‘My man, that man took something from a village or wilderness, with the intention to commit theft.\nThat’s why the rulers arrested him and inflicted such punishment.’\nWhat do you think, chief?\nHave you seen or heard of such a thing?”\n“Sir, we have seen it and heard of it, and we will hear of it again.”\n“Since this is so, the ascetics and brahmins whose view is that\neveryone who steals experiences pain and sadness in this very life: are they right or wrong? …\nIs it appropriate to have confidence in them?”\n“No, sir.”"}},{"id":"sn42.13:11","sourceIds":["sn42.13:11.1","sn42.13:11.2","sn42.13:11.3","sn42.13:11.4","sn42.13:11.5","sn42.13:11.6","sn42.13:11.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Dissati kho pana, gāmaṇi, idhekacco mālī kuṇḍalī …pe… itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricārento.\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso kiṁ akāsi mālī kuṇḍalī …pe… itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricāretī’ti?\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso rañño paccatthikassa dāresu cārittaṁ āpajji.\nTassa rājā attamano abhihāramadāsi.\nTenāyaṁ puriso mālī kuṇḍalī …pe… itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricāretī’ti.","en":"“You can see someone, garlanded and adorned …\n‘My friend, that man had relations with the wives of an enemy king.\nThe king was delighted and gave him this reward. …’ …"}},{"id":"sn42.13:12","sourceIds":["sn42.13:12.1","sn42.13:12.2","sn42.13:12.3","sn42.13:12.4","sn42.13:12.5","sn42.13:12.6","sn42.13:12.7","sn42.13:12.8","sn42.13:12.9","sn42.13:12.10","sn42.13:12.11","sn42.13:12.12","sn42.13:12.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Dissati kho, gāmaṇi, idhekacco daḷhāya rajjuyā …pe… dakkhiṇato nagarassa sīsaṁ chijjamāno.\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso kiṁ akāsi daḷhāya rajjuyā …pe… dakkhiṇato nagarassa sīsaṁ chindatī’ti?\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso kulitthīsu kulakumārīsu cārittaṁ āpajji,\ntena naṁ rājāno gahetvā evarūpaṁ kammakāraṇaṁ kārentī’ti.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, gāmaṇi,\napi nu te evarūpaṁ diṭṭhaṁ vā sutaṁ vā”ti?\n“Diṭṭhañca no, bhante, sutañca suyyissati cā”ti.\n“Tatra, gāmaṇi, ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:\n‘yo koci kāmesu micchā carati, sabbo so diṭṭheva dhamme dukkhaṁ domanassaṁ paṭisaṁvedayatī’ti, saccaṁ vā te āhaṁsu musā vāti …pe…\nkallaṁ nu tesu pasīditun”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.","en":"And you can see someone else, his arms tied tightly behind his back …\n‘My friend, that man had relations with women and maidens of good families.\nThat’s why the rulers arrested him and inflicted such punishment.’\nWhat do you think, chief?\nHave you seen or heard of such a thing?”\n“Sir, we have seen it and heard of it, and we will hear of it again.”\n“Since this is so, the ascetics and brahmins whose view is that\neveryone who commits sexual misconduct experiences pain and sadness in this very life: are they right or wrong? …\nIs it appropriate to have confidence in them?”\n“No, sir.”"}},{"id":"sn42.13:13","sourceIds":["sn42.13:13.1","sn42.13:13.2","sn42.13:13.3","sn42.13:13.4","sn42.13:13.5","sn42.13:13.6","sn42.13:13.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Dissati kho pana, gāmaṇi, idhekacco mālī kuṇḍalī sunhāto suvilitto kappitakesamassu itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricārento.\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso kiṁ akāsi mālī kuṇḍalī sunhāto suvilitto kappitakesamassu itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricāretī’ti?\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso rājānaṁ musāvādena hāsesi.\nTassa rājā attamano abhihāramadāsi.\nTenāyaṁ puriso mālī kuṇḍalī sunhāto suvilitto kappitakesamassu itthikāmehi rājā maññe paricāretī’ti.","en":"“And you can see someone, garlanded and adorned …\n‘My man, that man amused the king with lies.\nThe king was delighted and gave him this reward. …’ …"}},{"id":"sn42.13:14","sourceIds":["sn42.13:14.1","sn42.13:14.2","sn42.13:14.3","sn42.13:14.4","sn42.13:14.5","sn42.13:14.6","sn42.13:14.7","sn42.13:14.8","sn42.13:14.9","sn42.13:14.10","sn42.13:14.11","sn42.13:14.12","sn42.13:14.13","sn42.13:14.14","sn42.13:14.15","sn42.13:14.16","sn42.13:14.17","sn42.13:14.18","sn42.13:14.19","sn42.13:14.20"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Dissati kho, gāmaṇi, idhekacco daḷhāya rajjuyā pacchābāhaṁ gāḷhabandhanaṁ bandhitvā khuramuṇḍaṁ karitvā kharassarena paṇavena rathiyāya rathiyaṁ siṅghāṭakena siṅghāṭakaṁ parinetvā dakkhiṇena dvārena nikkhāmetvā dakkhiṇato nagarassa sīsaṁ chijjamāno.\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso kiṁ akāsi daḷhāya rajjuyā pacchābāhaṁ gāḷhabandhanaṁ bandhitvā khuramuṇḍaṁ karitvā kharassarena paṇavena rathiyāya rathiyaṁ siṅghāṭakena siṅghāṭakaṁ parinetvā, dakkhiṇena dvārena nikkhāmetvā, dakkhiṇato nagarassa sīsaṁ chindatī’ti?\nTamenaṁ evamāhaṁsu:\n‘ambho, ayaṁ puriso gahapatissa vā gahapatiputtassa vā musāvādena atthaṁ bhañji,\ntena naṁ rājāno gahetvā evarūpaṁ kammakāraṇaṁ kārentī’ti.\nTaṁ kiṁ maññasi, gāmaṇi,\napi nu te evarūpaṁ diṭṭhaṁ vā sutaṁ vā”ti?\n“Diṭṭhañca no, bhante, sutañca suyyissati cā”ti.\n“Tatra, gāmaṇi, ye te samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṁvādino evaṁdiṭṭhino:\n‘yo koci musā bhaṇati, sabbo so diṭṭheva dhamme dukkhaṁ domanassaṁ paṭisaṁvedayatī’ti, saccaṁ vā te āhaṁsu musā vā”ti?\n“Musā, bhante”.\n“Ye pana te tucchaṁ musā vilapanti sīlavanto vā te dussīlā vā”ti?\n“Dussīlā, bhante”.\n“Ye pana te dussīlā pāpadhammā micchāpaṭipannā vā te sammāpaṭipannā vā”ti?\n“Micchāpaṭipannā, bhante”.\n“Ye pana te micchāpaṭipannā micchādiṭṭhikā vā te sammādiṭṭhikā vā”ti?\n“Micchādiṭṭhikā, bhante”.\n“Ye pana te micchādiṭṭhikā kallaṁ nu tesu pasīditun”ti?\n“No hetaṁ, bhante”.","en":"And you can see someone else, his arms tied tightly behind his back …\n‘My man, that man has ruined a householder or householder’s child by lying.\nThat’s why the rulers arrested him and inflicted such punishment.’\nWhat do you think, chief?\nHave you seen or heard of such a thing?”\n“Sir, we have seen it and heard of it, and we will hear of it again.”\n“Since this is so, the ascetics and brahmins whose view is that\neveryone who lies experiences pain and sadness in this very life: are they right or wrong?”\n“They’re wrong, sir.”\n“But those who speak hollow, false nonsense: are they moral or immoral?”\n“Immoral, sir.”\n“And are those who are immoral, of bad character practicing wrongly or rightly?”\n“They’re practicing wrongly, sir.”\n“And do those who are practicing wrongly have wrong view or right view?”\n“They have wrong view, sir.”\n“But is it appropriate to have confidence in those of wrong view?”\n“No, sir."}},{"id":"sn42.13:15","sourceIds":["sn42.13:15.1","sn42.13:15.2","sn42.13:15.3","sn42.13:15.4","sn42.13:15.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Acchariyaṁ, bhante, abbhutaṁ, bhante.\nAtthi me, bhante, āvasathāgāraṁ.\nTattha atthi mañcakāni, atthi āsanāni, atthi udakamaṇiko, atthi telappadīpo.\nTattha yo samaṇo vā brāhmaṇo vā vāsaṁ upeti, tenāhaṁ yathāsatti yathābalaṁ saṁvibhajāmi.\nBhūtapubbaṁ, bhante, cattāro satthāro nānādiṭṭhikā nānākhantikā nānārucikā, tasmiṁ āvasathāgāre vāsaṁ upagacchuṁ.","en":"It’s incredible, sir, it’s amazing!\nI have a guest house,\nwhere there are cots, seats, water jars, and oil lamps.\nWhenever an ascetic or brahmin comes to stay, I share what I have as best I can.\nOnce it so happened, sir, that four teachers of different views, beliefs, and opinions came to stay at my guest house."}},{"id":"sn42.13:16","sourceIds":["sn42.13:16.1","sn42.13:16.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Eko satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n‘natthi dinnaṁ, natthi yiṭṭhaṁ, natthi hutaṁ, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṁ kammānaṁ phalaṁ vipāko. Natthi ayaṁ loko, natthi paro loko, natthi mātā, natthi pitā, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi loke samaṇabrāhmaṇā sammaggatā sammāpaṭipannā ye imañca lokaṁ parañca lokaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā pavedentī’ti.","en":"One teacher had this doctrine and view:\n‘There’s no meaning in giving, sacrifice, or offerings. There’s no fruit or result of good and bad deeds. There’s no afterlife. There’s no such thing as mother and father, or beings that are reborn spontaneously. And there’s no ascetic or brahmin who is rightly comported and rightly practiced, and who describes the afterlife after realizing it with their own insight.’"}},{"id":"sn42.13:17","sourceIds":["sn42.13:17.1","sn42.13:17.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Eko satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n‘atthi dinnaṁ, atthi yiṭṭhaṁ, atthi hutaṁ, atthi sukatadukkaṭānaṁ kammānaṁ phalaṁ vipāko, atthi ayaṁ loko, atthi paro loko, atthi mātā, atthi pitā, atthi sattā opapātikā, atthi loke samaṇabrāhmaṇā sammaggatā sammāpaṭipannā, ye imañca lokaṁ parañca lokaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā pavedentī’ti.","en":"One teacher had this doctrine and view:\n‘There is meaning in giving, sacrifice, and offerings. There are fruits and results of good and bad deeds. There is an afterlife. There are such things as mother and father, and beings that are reborn spontaneously. And there are ascetics and brahmins who are rightly comported and rightly practiced, and who describe the afterlife after realizing it with their own insight.’"}},{"id":"sn42.13:18","sourceIds":["sn42.13:18.1","sn42.13:18.2","sn42.13:18.3","sn42.13:18.4","sn42.13:18.5","sn42.13:18.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Eko satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n‘karoto kārayato, chindato chedāpayato, pacato pācāpayato, socayato socāpayato, kilamato kilamāpayato, phandato phandāpayato, pāṇamatipātayato, adinnaṁ ādiyato, sandhiṁ chindato, nillopaṁ harato, ekāgārikaṁ karoto, paripanthe tiṭṭhato, paradāraṁ gacchato, musā bhaṇato, karoto na karīyati pāpaṁ.\nKhurapariyantena cepi cakkena yo imissā pathaviyā pāṇe ekaṁ maṁsakhalaṁ ekaṁ maṁsapuñjaṁ kareyya, natthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, natthi pāpassa āgamo.\nDakkhiṇañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya hananto ghātento chindanto chedāpento pacanto pācāpento, natthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, natthi pāpassa āgamo.\nUttarañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya dadanto dāpento yajanto yajāpento, natthi tatonidānaṁ puññaṁ, natthi puññassa āgamo.\nDānena damena saṁyamena saccavajjena natthi puññaṁ, natthi puññassa āgamo’ti.","en":"One teacher had this doctrine and view:\n‘The one who acts does nothing wrong when they punish, mutilate, torture, aggrieve, oppress, intimidate, or when they encourage others to do the same. Nothing bad is done when they kill, steal, break into houses, plunder wealth, steal from isolated buildings, commit highway robbery, commit adultery, and lie.\nIf you were to reduce all the living creatures of this earth to one heap and mass of flesh with a razor-edged chakram, no evil comes of that, and no outcome of evil.\nIf you were to go along the south bank of the Ganges killing, mutilating, and torturing, and encouraging others to do the same, no evil comes of that, and no outcome of evil.\nIf you were to go along the north bank of the Ganges giving and sacrificing and encouraging others to do the same, no merit comes of that, and no outcome of merit.\nIn giving, self-control, restraint, and truthfulness there is no merit or outcome of merit.’"}},{"id":"sn42.13:19","sourceIds":["sn42.13:19.1","sn42.13:19.2","sn42.13:19.3","sn42.13:19.4","sn42.13:19.5","sn42.13:19.6"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Eko satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n‘karoto kārayato, chindato chedāpayato, pacato pācāpayato, socayato socāpayato, kilamato kilamāpayato, phandato phandāpayato, pāṇamatipātayato, adinnaṁ ādiyato, sandhiṁ chindato, nillopaṁ harato, ekāgārikaṁ karoto, paripanthe tiṭṭhato, paradāraṁ gacchato, musā bhaṇato, karoto karīyati pāpaṁ.\nKhurapariyantena cepi cakkena yo imissā pathaviyā pāṇe ekaṁ maṁsakhalaṁ ekaṁ maṁsapuñjaṁ kareyya, atthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, atthi pāpassa āgamo.\nDakkhiṇañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya hananto ghātento chindanto chedāpento pacanto pācāpento, atthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, atthi pāpassa āgamo.\nUttarañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya dadanto dāpento, yajanto yajāpento, atthi tatonidānaṁ puññaṁ, atthi puññassa āgamo.\nDānena damena saṁyamena saccavajjena atthi puññaṁ, atthi puññassa āgamo’ti.","en":"One teacher had this doctrine and view:\n‘The one who acts does a bad deed when they punish, mutilate, torture, aggrieve, oppress, intimidate, or when they encourage others to do the same. A bad deed is done when they kill, steal, break into houses, plunder wealth, steal from isolated buildings, commit highway robbery, commit adultery, and lie.\nIf you were to reduce all the living creatures of this earth to one heap and mass of flesh with a razor-edged chakram, evil comes of that, and an outcome of evil.\nIf you were to go along the south bank of the Ganges killing, mutilating, and torturing, and encouraging others to do the same, evil comes of that, and an outcome of evil.\nIf you were to go along the north bank of the Ganges giving and sacrificing and encouraging others to do the same, merit comes of that, and an outcome of merit.\nIn giving, self-control, restraint, and truthfulness there is merit and outcome of merit.’"}},{"id":"sn42.13:20","sourceIds":["sn42.13:20.1","sn42.13:20.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassa mayhaṁ, bhante, ahudeva kaṅkhā, ahu vicikicchā:\n‘kosu nāma imesaṁ bhavataṁ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṁ saccaṁ āha, ko musā’”ti?","en":"I had doubt and uncertainty about that:\n‘I wonder who of these respected ascetics and brahmins speaks the truth, and who speaks falsehood?’”"}},{"id":"sn42.13:21","sourceIds":["sn42.13:21.1","sn42.13:21.2","sn42.13:21.3"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Alañhi te, gāmaṇi, kaṅkhituṁ, alaṁ vicikicchituṁ.\nKaṅkhanīye ca pana te ṭhāne vicikicchā uppannā”ti.\n“Evaṁ pasannohaṁ, bhante, bhagavati. Pahoti me bhagavā tathā dhammaṁ desetuṁ yathāhaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyan”ti.","en":"“Chief, no wonder you’re doubting and uncertain.\nDoubt has come up in you about an uncertain matter.”\n“I am quite confident that the Buddha is capable of teaching me so that I can give up this state of uncertainty.”"}},{"id":"sn42.13:22","sourceIds":["sn42.13:22.1","sn42.13:22.2","sn42.13:22.3","sn42.13:22.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Atthi, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi.\nTatra ce tvaṁ cittasamādhiṁ paṭilabheyyāsi. Evaṁ tvaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyāsi.\nKatamo ca, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi?\nIdha, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako pāṇātipātaṁ pahāya pāṇātipātā paṭivirato hoti, adinnādānaṁ pahāya adinnādānā paṭivirato hoti, kāmesumicchācāraṁ pahāya kāmesumicchācārā paṭivirato hoti, musāvādaṁ pahāya musāvādā paṭivirato hoti, pisuṇaṁ vācaṁ pahāya pisuṇāya vācāya paṭivirato hoti, pharusaṁ vācaṁ pahāya pharusāya vācāya paṭivirato hoti, samphappalāpaṁ pahāya samphappalāpā paṭivirato hoti, abhijjhaṁ pahāya anabhijjhālu hoti, byāpādapadosaṁ pahāya abyāpannacitto hoti, micchādiṭṭhiṁ pahāya sammādiṭṭhiko hoti.","en":"“Chief, there is immersion based on understanding of principle.\nIf you gain such mental immersion, you can give up that state of uncertainty.\nAnd what is immersion based on understanding of principle?\nIt’s when a noble disciple has given up killing living creatures, stealing, sexual misconduct, lying, backbiting, harsh speech, talking nonsense, covetousness, ill will, and wrong view."}},{"id":"sn42.13:23","sourceIds":["sn42.13:23.1","sn42.13:23.2","sn42.13:23.3","sn42.13:23.4","sn42.13:23.5","sn42.13:23.6","sn42.13:23.7","sn42.13:23.8","sn42.13:23.9","sn42.13:23.10","sn42.13:23.11","sn42.13:23.12","sn42.13:23.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako evaṁ vigatābhijjho vigatabyāpādo asammūḷho sampajāno paṭissato mettāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati, tathā dutiyaṁ, tathā tatiyaṁ, tathā catutthaṁ, iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ mettāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo iti paṭisañcikkhati:\n‘yvāyaṁ satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n“natthi dinnaṁ, natthi yiṭṭhaṁ, natthi hutaṁ, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṁ kammānaṁ phalaṁ vipāko, natthi ayaṁ loko, natthi paro loko, natthi mātā, natthi pitā, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi loke samaṇabrāhmaṇā, sammaggatā sammāpaṭipannā ye imañca lokaṁ parañca lokaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā pavedentī”ti.\nSace tassa bhoto satthuno saccaṁ vacanaṁ, apaṇṇakatāya mayhaṁ, yvāhaṁ na kiñci byābādhemi tasaṁ vā thāvaraṁ vā.\nUbhayamettha kaṭaggāho, yaṁ camhi kāyena saṁvuto vācāya saṁvuto manasā saṁvuto, yañca kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapajjissāmī’ti.\nTassa pāmojjaṁ jāyati.\nPamuditassa pīti jāyati.\nPītimanassa kāyo passambhati.\nPassaddhakāyo sukhaṁ vedayati.\nSukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati.\nAyaṁ kho, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi.\nTatra ce tvaṁ cittasamādhiṁ paṭilabheyyāsi, evaṁ tvaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyāsi.","en":"Then that noble disciple is rid of desire, rid of ill will, unconfused, aware, and mindful. They meditate spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.\nThey reflect thus:\n‘That teacher who had this doctrine and view:\n“There’s no meaning in giving, sacrifice, or offerings. There’s no fruit or result of good and bad deeds. There’s no afterlife. There’s no such thing as mother and father, or beings that are reborn spontaneously. And there’s no ascetic or brahmin who is rightly comported and rightly practiced, and who describes the afterlife after realizing it with their own insight.”\nIf what this good teacher says is true, it’s a sure bet for me to not hurt any creature firm or frail.\nI hold a winning hand on both counts, since I’m restrained in body, speech, and mind, and when my body breaks up, after death, I’ll be reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm.’\nJoy springs up in them.\nBeing joyful, rapture springs up.\nWhen the mind is full of rapture, the body becomes tranquil.\nWhen the body is tranquil, they feel bliss.\nAnd when blissful, the mind becomes immersed in samādhi.\nThis is that immersion based on understanding of principle.\nIf you gain such mental immersion, you can give up that state of uncertainty."}},{"id":"sn42.13:24","sourceIds":["sn42.13:24.1","sn42.13:24.2","sn42.13:24.3","sn42.13:24.4","sn42.13:24.5","sn42.13:24.6","sn42.13:24.7","sn42.13:24.8","sn42.13:24.9","sn42.13:24.10","sn42.13:24.11","sn42.13:24.12","sn42.13:24.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako evaṁ vigatābhijjho vigatabyāpādo asammūḷho sampajāno paṭissato mettāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati, tathā dutiyaṁ, tathā tatiyaṁ, tathā catutthaṁ, iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ mettāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo iti paṭisañcikkhati:\n‘yvāyaṁ satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n“atthi dinnaṁ, atthi yiṭṭhaṁ, atthi hutaṁ, atthi sukatadukkaṭānaṁ kammānaṁ phalaṁ vipāko, atthi ayaṁ loko, atthi paro loko, atthi mātā, atthi pitā, atthi sattā opapātikā, atthi loke samaṇabrāhmaṇā, sammaggatā sammāpaṭipannā ye imañca lokaṁ parañca lokaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā pavedentī”ti.\nSace tassa bhoto satthuno saccaṁ vacanaṁ, apaṇṇakatāya mayhaṁ, yvāhaṁ na kiñci byābādhemi tasaṁ vā thāvaraṁ vā.\nUbhayamettha kaṭaggāho, yaṁ camhi kāyena saṁvuto vācāya saṁvuto manasā saṁvuto, yañca kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapajjissāmī’ti.\nTassa pāmojjaṁ jāyati.\nPamuditassa pīti jāyati.\nPītimanassa kāyo passambhati.\nPassaddhakāyo sukhaṁ vedayati.\nSukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati.\nAyaṁ kho, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi.\nTatra ce tvaṁ cittasamādhiṁ paṭilabheyyāsi, evaṁ tvaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyāsi.","en":"Then that noble disciple is rid of desire, rid of ill will, unconfused, aware, and mindful. They meditate spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.\nThey reflect thus:\n‘That teacher who had this doctrine and view:\n“There is meaning in giving, sacrifice, and offerings. There are fruits and results of good and bad deeds. There is an afterlife. There are such things as mother and father, and beings that are reborn spontaneously. And there are ascetics and brahmins who are rightly comported and rightly practiced, and who describe the afterlife after realizing it with their own insight.”\nIf what this good teacher says is true, it’s a sure bet for me to not hurt any creature firm or frail.\nI hold a winning hand on both counts, since I’m restrained in body, speech, and mind, and when my body breaks up, after death, I’ll be reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm.’\nJoy springs up in them.\nBeing joyful, rapture springs up.\nWhen the mind is full of rapture, the body becomes tranquil.\nWhen the body is tranquil, they feel bliss.\nAnd when blissful, the mind becomes immersed in samādhi.\nThis is that immersion based on understanding of principle.\nIf you gain such mental immersion, you can give up that state of uncertainty."}},{"id":"sn42.13:25","sourceIds":["sn42.13:25.1","sn42.13:25.2","sn42.13:25.3","sn42.13:25.4","sn42.13:25.5","sn42.13:25.6","sn42.13:25.7","sn42.13:25.8","sn42.13:25.9","sn42.13:25.10","sn42.13:25.11","sn42.13:25.12","sn42.13:25.13","sn42.13:25.14","sn42.13:25.15","sn42.13:25.16","sn42.13:25.17"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako evaṁ vigatābhijjho vigatabyāpādo asammūḷho sampajāno paṭissato mettāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati, tathā dutiyaṁ, tathā tatiyaṁ, tathā catutthaṁ, iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ mettāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo iti paṭisañcikkhati:\n‘yvāyaṁ satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n“karoto kārayato, chindato chedāpayato, pacato pācāpayato, socayato socāpayato, kilamato kilamāpayato, phandato phandāpayato, pāṇamatipātayato, adinnaṁ ādiyato, sandhiṁ chindato, nillopaṁ harato, ekāgārikaṁ karoto, paripanthe tiṭṭhato, paradāraṁ gacchato, musā bhaṇato, karoto na karīyati pāpaṁ.\nKhurapariyantena cepi cakkena yo imissā pathaviyā pāṇe ekaṁ maṁsakhalaṁ ekaṁ maṁsapuñjaṁ kareyya, natthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, natthi pāpassa āgamo.\nDakkhiṇañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya hananto ghātento chindanto chedāpento pacanto pācāpento, natthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, natthi pāpassa āgamo.\nUttarañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya dadanto dāpento, yajanto yajāpento, natthi tatonidānaṁ puññaṁ, natthi puññassa āgamo.\nDānena damena saṁyamena saccavajjena natthi puññaṁ, natthi puññassa āgamo”ti.\nSace tassa bhoto satthuno saccaṁ vacanaṁ, apaṇṇakatāya mayhaṁ, yvāhaṁ na kiñci byābādhemi tasaṁ vā thāvaraṁ vā.\nUbhayamettha kaṭaggāho, yaṁ camhi kāyena saṁvuto vācāya saṁvuto manasā saṁvuto, yañca kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapajjissāmī’ti.\nTassa pāmojjaṁ jāyati.\nPamuditassa pīti jāyati.\nPītimanassa kāyo passambhati.\nPassaddhakāyo sukhaṁ vedayati.\nSukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati.\nAyaṁ kho, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi\ntatra ce tvaṁ cittasamādhiṁ paṭilabheyyāsi, evaṁ tvaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyāsi.","en":"Then that noble disciple is rid of desire, rid of ill will, unconfused, aware, and mindful. They meditate spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.\nThey reflect thus:\n‘That teacher who had this doctrine and view:\n“The one who acts does nothing wrong when they punish, mutilate, torture, aggrieve, oppress, intimidate, or when they encourage others to do the same. Nothing bad is done when they kill, steal, break into houses, plunder wealth, steal from isolated buildings, commit highway robbery, commit adultery, and lie.\nIf you were to reduce all the living creatures of this earth to one heap and mass of flesh with a razor-edged chakram, no evil comes of that, and no outcome of evil.\nIf you were to go along the south bank of the Ganges killing, mutilating, and torturing, and encouraging others to do the same, no evil comes of that, and no outcome of evil.\nIf you were to go along the north bank of the Ganges giving and sacrificing and encouraging others to do the same, no merit comes of that, and no outcome of merit.\nIn giving, self-control, restraint, and truthfulness there is no merit or outcome of merit.”\nIf what this good teacher says is true, it’s a sure bet for me to not hurt any creature firm or frail.\nI hold a winning hand on both counts, since I’m restrained in body, speech, and mind, and when my body breaks up, after death, I’ll be reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm.’\nJoy springs up in them.\nBeing joyful, rapture springs up.\nWhen the mind is full of rapture, the body becomes tranquil.\nWhen the body is tranquil, they feel bliss.\nAnd when blissful, the mind becomes immersed in samādhi.\nThis is that immersion based on understanding of principle.\nIf you gain such mental immersion, you can give up that state of uncertainty."}},{"id":"sn42.13:26","sourceIds":["sn42.13:26.1","sn42.13:26.2","sn42.13:26.3","sn42.13:26.4","sn42.13:26.5","sn42.13:26.6","sn42.13:26.7","sn42.13:26.8","sn42.13:26.9","sn42.13:26.10","sn42.13:26.11","sn42.13:26.12","sn42.13:26.13","sn42.13:26.14","sn42.13:26.15","sn42.13:26.16","sn42.13:26.17"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako evaṁ vigatābhijjho vigatabyāpādo asammūḷho sampajāno paṭissato mettāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati, tathā dutiyaṁ, tathā tatiyaṁ, tathā catutthaṁ, iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ mettāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo iti paṭisañcikkhati:\n‘yvāyaṁ satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n“karoto kārayato, chindato chedāpayato, pacato pācāpayato, socayato socāpayato, kilamato kilamāpayato, phandato phandāpayato, pāṇamatipātayato, adinnaṁ ādiyato, sandhiṁ chindato, nillopaṁ harato, ekāgārikaṁ karoto, paripanthe tiṭṭhato, paradāraṁ gacchato, musā bhaṇato, karoto karīyati pāpaṁ.\nKhurapariyantena cepi cakkena yo imissā pathaviyā pāṇe ekaṁ maṁsakhalaṁ ekaṁ maṁsapuñjaṁ kareyya, atthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, atthi pāpassa āgamo.\nDakkhiṇañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya hananto ghātento chindanto chedāpento pacanto pācāpento, atthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, atthi pāpassa āgamo.\nUttarañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya dadanto dāpento, yajanto yajāpento, atthi tatonidānaṁ puññaṁ, atthi puññassa āgamo.\nDānena damena saṁyamena saccavajjena atthi puññaṁ atthi puññassa āgamo”ti.\nSace tassa bhoto satthuno saccaṁ vacanaṁ, apaṇṇakatāya mayhaṁ, yvāhaṁ na kiñci byābādhemi tasaṁ vā thāvaraṁ vā.\nUbhayamettha kaṭaggāho, yaṁ camhi kāyena saṁvuto vācāya saṁvuto manasā saṁvuto, yañca kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapajjissāmī’ti.\nTassa pāmojjaṁ jāyati.\nPamuditassa pīti jāyati.\nPītimanassa kāyo passambhati.\nPassaddhakāyo sukhaṁ vedayati.\nSukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati.\nAyaṁ kho, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi.\nTatra ce tvaṁ cittasamādhiṁ paṭilabheyyāsi, evaṁ tvaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyāsi.","en":"Then that noble disciple is rid of desire, rid of ill will, unconfused, aware, and mindful. They meditate spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.\nThey reflect thus:\n‘That teacher who had this doctrine and view:\n“The one who acts does a bad deed when they punish, mutilate, torture, aggrieve, oppress, intimidate, or when they encourage others to do the same. A bad deed is done when they kill, steal, break into houses, plunder wealth, steal from isolated buildings, commit highway robbery, commit adultery, and lie.\nIf you were to reduce all the living creatures of this earth to one heap and mass of flesh with a razor-edged chakram, evil comes of that, and an outcome of evil.\nIf you were to go along the south bank of the Ganges killing, mutilating, and torturing, and encouraging others to do the same, evil comes of that, and an outcome of evil.\nIf you were to go along the north bank of the Ganges giving and sacrificing and encouraging others to do the same, merit comes of that, and an outcome of merit.\nIn giving, self-control, restraint, and truthfulness there is merit and outcome of merit.”\nIf what this good teacher says is true, it’s a sure bet for me to not hurt any creature firm or frail.\nI hold a winning hand on both counts, since I’m restrained in body, speech, and mind, and when my body breaks up, after death, I’ll be reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm.’\nJoy springs up in them.\nBeing joyful, rapture springs up.\nWhen the mind is full of rapture, the body becomes tranquil.\nWhen the body is tranquil, they feel bliss.\nAnd when blissful, the mind becomes immersed in samādhi.\nThis is that immersion based on understanding of principle.\nIf you gain such mental immersion, you can give up that state of uncertainty."}},{"id":"sn42.13:27","sourceIds":["sn42.13:27.1","sn42.13:27.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako evaṁ vigatābhijjho vigatabyāpādo asammūḷho sampajāno paṭissato karuṇāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati …pe…\nmuditāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati …pe….","en":"Then that noble disciple is rid of desire, rid of ill will, unconfused, aware, and mindful. They meditate spreading a heart full of compassion …\nrejoicing …"}},{"id":"sn42.13:28","sourceIds":["sn42.13:28.1","sn42.13:28.2","sn42.13:28.3","sn42.13:28.4","sn42.13:28.5","sn42.13:28.6","sn42.13:28.7","sn42.13:28.8","sn42.13:28.9","sn42.13:28.10","sn42.13:28.11","sn42.13:28.12","sn42.13:28.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako evaṁ vigatābhijjho vigatabyāpādo asammūḷho sampajāno paṭissato upekkhāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati, tathā dutiyaṁ, tathā tatiyaṁ, tathā catutthaṁ, iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ upekkhāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo iti paṭisañcikkhati:\n‘yvāyaṁ satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n“natthi dinnaṁ, natthi yiṭṭhaṁ, natthi hutaṁ natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṁ kammānaṁ phalaṁ vipāko, natthi ayaṁ loko natthi paro loko, natthi mātā natthi pitā natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi loke samaṇabrāhmaṇā sammaggatā sammāpaṭipannā ye imañca lokaṁ parañca lokaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā pavedentī”ti.\nSace tassa bhoto satthuno saccaṁ vacanaṁ, apaṇṇakatāya mayhaṁ, yvāhaṁ na kiñci byābādhemi tasaṁ vā thāvaraṁ vā.\nUbhayamettha kaṭaggāho, yaṁ camhi kāyena saṁvuto vācāya saṁvuto manasā saṁvuto, yañca kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapajjissāmī’ti.\nTassa pāmojjaṁ jāyati.\nPamuditassa pīti jāyati.\nPītimanassa kāyo passambhati.\nPassaddhakāyo sukhaṁ vedayati.\nSukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati.\nAyaṁ kho, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi.\nTatra ce tvaṁ cittasamādhiṁ paṭilabheyyāsi, evaṁ tvaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyāsi.","en":"equanimity to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of equanimity to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will."}},{"id":"sn42.13:29","sourceIds":["sn42.13:29.1","sn42.13:29.2","sn42.13:29.3","sn42.13:29.4","sn42.13:29.5","sn42.13:29.6","sn42.13:29.7","sn42.13:29.8","sn42.13:29.9","sn42.13:29.10","sn42.13:29.11","sn42.13:29.12","sn42.13:29.13"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako evaṁ vigatābhijjho vigatabyāpādo asammūḷho sampajāno paṭissato upekkhāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati, tathā dutiyaṁ, tathā tatiyaṁ, tathā catutthaṁ, iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ upekkhāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo iti paṭisañcikkhati:\n‘yvāyaṁ satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n“atthi dinnaṁ, atthi yiṭṭhaṁ, atthi hutaṁ, atthi sukatadukkaṭānaṁ kammānaṁ phalaṁ vipāko, atthi ayaṁ loko atthi paro loko, atthi mātā atthi pitā atthi sattā opapātikā, atthi loke samaṇabrāhmaṇā sammaggatā sammāpaṭipannā ye imañca lokaṁ parañca lokaṁ sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā pavedentī”ti.\nSace tassa bhoto satthuno saccaṁ vacanaṁ, apaṇṇakatāya mayhaṁ, yvāhaṁ na kiñci byābādhemi tasaṁ vā thāvaraṁ vā.\nUbhayamettha kaṭaggāho, yaṁ camhi kāyena saṁvuto vācāya saṁvuto manasā saṁvuto, yañca kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapajjissāmī’ti.\nTassa pāmojjaṁ jāyati.\nPamuditassa pīti jāyati.\nPītimanassa kāyo passambhati.\nPassaddhakāyo sukhaṁ vedayati.\nSukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati.\nAyaṁ kho, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi.\nTatra ce tvaṁ cittasamādhiṁ paṭilabheyyāsi, evaṁ tvaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyāsi."}},{"id":"sn42.13:30","sourceIds":["sn42.13:30.1","sn42.13:30.2","sn42.13:30.3","sn42.13:30.4","sn42.13:30.5","sn42.13:30.6","sn42.13:30.7","sn42.13:30.8","sn42.13:30.9","sn42.13:30.10","sn42.13:30.11","sn42.13:30.12","sn42.13:30.13","sn42.13:30.14","sn42.13:30.15","sn42.13:30.16","sn42.13:30.17"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako evaṁ vigatābhijjho vigatabyāpādo asammūḷho sampajāno paṭissato upekkhāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati, tathā dutiyaṁ, tathā tatiyaṁ, tathā catutthaṁ, iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ upekkhāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo iti paṭisañcikkhati:\n‘yvāyaṁ satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n“karoto kārayato, chedato chedāpayato, pacato pācāpayato, socayato socāpayato, kilamato kilamāpayato, phandato phandāpayato, pāṇamatipātayato, adinnaṁ ādiyato, sandhiṁ chindato, nillopaṁ harato, ekāgārikaṁ karoto, paripanthe tiṭṭhato, paradāraṁ gacchato, musā bhaṇato, karoto na karīyati pāpaṁ.\nKhurapariyantena cepi cakkena yo imissā pathaviyā pāṇe ekaṁ maṁsakhalaṁ ekaṁ maṁsapuñjaṁ kareyya, natthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, natthi pāpassa āgamo.\nDakkhiṇañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya hananto ghātento chindanto chedāpento pacanto pācāpento, natthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, natthi pāpassa āgamo.\nUttarañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya dadanto dāpento, yajanto yajāpento, natthi tatonidānaṁ puññaṁ, natthi puññassa āgamo.\nDānena damena saṁyamena saccavajjena natthi puññaṁ, natthi puññassa āgamo”ti.\nSace tassa bhoto satthuno saccaṁ vacanaṁ, apaṇṇakatāya mayhaṁ, yvāhaṁ na kiñci byābādhemi tasaṁ vā thāvaraṁ vā.\nUbhayamettha kaṭaggāho, yaṁ camhi kāyena saṁvuto vācāya saṁvuto manasā saṁvuto, yañca kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapajjissāmī’ti.\nTassa pāmojjaṁ jāyati.\nPamuditassa pīti jāyati.\nPītimanassa kāyo passambhati.\nPassaddhakāyo sukhaṁ vedayati.\nSukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati.\nAyaṁ kho, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi.\nTatra ce tvaṁ cittasamādhiṁ paṭilabheyyāsi, evaṁ tvaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyāsi."}},{"id":"sn42.13:31","sourceIds":["sn42.13:31.1","sn42.13:31.2","sn42.13:31.3","sn42.13:31.4","sn42.13:31.5","sn42.13:31.6","sn42.13:31.7","sn42.13:31.8","sn42.13:31.9","sn42.13:31.10","sn42.13:31.11","sn42.13:31.12","sn42.13:31.13","sn42.13:31.14","sn42.13:31.15","sn42.13:31.16","sn42.13:31.17"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sa kho so, gāmaṇi, ariyasāvako evaṁ vigatābhijjho vigatabyāpādo asammūḷho sampajāno paṭissato upekkhāsahagatena cetasā ekaṁ disaṁ pharitvā viharati, tathā dutiyaṁ, tathā tatiyaṁ, tathā catutthaṁ, iti uddhamadho tiriyaṁ sabbadhi sabbattatāya sabbāvantaṁ lokaṁ upekkhāsahagatena cetasā vipulena mahaggatena appamāṇena averena abyāpajjena pharitvā viharati.\nSo iti paṭisañcikkhati:\n‘yvāyaṁ satthā evaṁvādī evaṁdiṭṭhi:\n“karoto kārayato, chindato chedāpayato, pacato pācāpayato, socayato socāpayato, kilamato kilamāpayato, phandato phandāpayato, pāṇamatipātayato, adinnaṁ ādiyato, sandhiṁ chindato, nillopaṁ harato, ekāgārikaṁ karoto, paripanthe tiṭṭhato, paradāraṁ gacchato, musā bhaṇato, karoto karīyati pāpaṁ.\nKhurapariyantena cepi cakkena yo imissā pathaviyā pāṇe ekaṁ maṁsakhalaṁ ekaṁ maṁsapuñjaṁ kareyya, atthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, atthi pāpassa āgamo.\nDakkhiṇañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya hananto ghātento chindanto chedāpento pacanto pācāpento, atthi tatonidānaṁ pāpaṁ, atthi pāpassa āgamo.\nUttarañcepi gaṅgāya tīraṁ gaccheyya dadanto dāpento, yajanto yajāpento, atthi tatonidānaṁ puññaṁ, atthi puññassa āgamo.\nDānena damena saṁyamena saccavajjena atthi puññaṁ, atthi puññassa āgamo”ti.\nSace tassa bhoto satthuno saccaṁ vacanaṁ, apaṇṇakatāya mayhaṁ, yvāhaṁ na kiñci byābādhemi tasaṁ vā thāvaraṁ vā.\nUbhayamettha kaṭaggāho, yaṁ camhi kāyena saṁvuto vācāya saṁvuto manasā saṁvuto, yañca kāyassa bhedā paraṁ maraṇā sugatiṁ saggaṁ lokaṁ upapajjissāmī’ti.\nTassa pāmojjaṁ jāyati.\nPamuditassa pīti jāyati.\nPītimanassa kāyo passambhati.\nPassaddhakāyo sukhaṁ vedayati.\nSukhino cittaṁ samādhiyati.\nAyaṁ kho, gāmaṇi, dhammasamādhi.\nTatra ce tvaṁ cittasamādhiṁ paṭilabheyyāsi, evaṁ tvaṁ imaṁ kaṅkhādhammaṁ pajaheyyāsī”ti.","en":"They reflect thus:\n‘If what this good teacher says is true, it’s a sure bet for me to not hurt any creature firm or frail.\nI hold a winning hand on both counts, since I’m restrained in body, speech, and mind, and when my body breaks up, after death, I’ll be reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm.’\nJoy springs up in them.\nBeing joyful, rapture springs up.\nWhen the mind is full of rapture, the body becomes tranquil.\nWhen the body is tranquil, they feel bliss.\nAnd when blissful, the mind becomes immersed in samādhi.\nThis is that immersion based on understanding of principle.\nIf you gain such mental immersion, you can give up that state of uncertainty.”"}},{"id":"sn42.13:32","sourceIds":["sn42.13:32.1","sn42.13:32.2","sn42.13:32.3","sn42.13:32.4","sn42.13:32.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Evaṁ vutte, pāṭaliyo gāmaṇi bhagavantaṁ etadavoca:\n“abhikkantaṁ, bhante, abhikkantaṁ, bhante …pe…\najjatagge pāṇupetaṁ saraṇaṁ gatan”ti.\nTerasamaṁ.\nGāmaṇivaggo paṭhamo.","en":"When he said this, Pāṭaliya the chief said to the Buddha,\n“Excellent, sir! Excellent! …\nFrom this day forth, may the Buddha remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life.”"}},{"id":"sn42.13:33","sourceIds":["sn42.13:33.0","sn42.13:33.1","sn42.13:33.2","sn42.13:33.3","sn42.13:33.4","sn42.13:33.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Tassuddānaṁ\nCaṇḍo puṭo yodhājīvo,\nHatthasso asibandhako;\nDesanā saṅkhakulaṁ maṇicūḷaṁ,\nBhadrarāsiyapāṭalīti.\nGāmaṇisaṁyuttaṁ samattaṁ.","en":"The Linked Discourses on chiefs are complete."}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/sn42.13/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}