{"id":"snp4.11","title":"Quarrels and Disputes","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"snp4.11","title":"Quarrels and Disputes","units":[{"id":"snp4.11:0","sourceIds":["snp4.11:0.1","snp4.11:0.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sutta Nipāta 4.11\nKalahavivādasutta","en":"Anthology of Discourses 4.11\nQuarrels and Disputes"}},{"id":"snp4.11:1","sourceIds":["snp4.11:1.1","snp4.11:1.2","snp4.11:1.3","snp4.11:1.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Kutopahūtā kalahā vivādā,\nParidevasokā sahamaccharā ca;\nMānātimānā sahapesuṇā ca,\nKutopahūtā te tadiṅgha brūhi”.","en":"“Where do quarrels and disputes come from?\nAnd lamentation and sorrow, and stinginess?\nWhat of conceit and arrogance, and slander too—\ntell me please, where do they come from?”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:2","sourceIds":["snp4.11:2.1","snp4.11:2.2","snp4.11:2.3","snp4.11:2.4","snp4.11:2.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Piyappahūtā kalahā vivādā,\nParidevasokā sahamaccharā ca;\nMānātimānā sahapesuṇā ca,\nMaccherayuttā kalahā vivādā;\nVivādajātesu ca pesuṇāni”.","en":"“Quarrels and disputes come from what we hold dear,\nas do lamentation and sorrow, stinginess,\nconceit and arrogance.\nQuarrels and disputes are linked to stinginess,\nand when disputes have arisen there is slander.”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:3","sourceIds":["snp4.11:3.1","snp4.11:3.2","snp4.11:3.3","snp4.11:3.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Piyā su lokasmiṁ kutonidānā,\nYe cāpi lobhā vicaranti loke;\nĀsā ca niṭṭhā ca kutonidānā,\nYe samparāyāya narassa honti”.","en":"“So where do things held dear in the world spring from?\nAnd the lusts that are loose in the world?\nWhere spring the hopes and aims\na man has for lives to come?”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:4","sourceIds":["snp4.11:4.1","snp4.11:4.2","snp4.11:4.3","snp4.11:4.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Chandānidānāni piyāni loke,\nYe cāpi lobhā vicaranti loke;\nĀsā ca niṭṭhā ca itonidānā,\nYe samparāyāya narassa honti”.","en":"“What we hold dear in the world spring from desire,\nas do the lusts that are loose in the world.\nFrom there spring the hopes and aims\na man has for lives to come.”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:5","sourceIds":["snp4.11:5.1","snp4.11:5.2","snp4.11:5.3","snp4.11:5.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Chando nu lokasmiṁ kutonidāno,\nVinicchayā cāpi kutopahūtā;\nKodho mosavajjañca kathaṅkathā ca,\nYe vāpi dhammā samaṇena vuttā”.","en":"“So where does desire in the world spring from?\nAnd evaluations, too, where do they come from?\nAnd anger, lies, and indecision,\nand other things spoken of by the Ascetic?”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:6","sourceIds":["snp4.11:6.1","snp4.11:6.2","snp4.11:6.3","snp4.11:6.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Sātaṁ asātanti yamāhu loke,\nTamūpanissāya pahoti chando;\nRūpesu disvā vibhavaṁ bhavañca,\nVinicchayaṁ kubbati jantu loke.","en":"“What they call pleasure and pain in the world—\nbased on that, desire comes about.\nSeeing the manifestation and vanishing of forms,\na personage makes evaluations in the world."}},{"id":"snp4.11:7","sourceIds":["snp4.11:7.1","snp4.11:7.2","snp4.11:7.3","snp4.11:7.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Kodho mosavajjañca kathaṅkathā ca,\nEtepi dhammā dvayameva sante;\nKathaṅkathī ñāṇapathāya sikkhe,\nÑatvā pavuttā samaṇena dhammā”.","en":"Anger, lies, and indecision—\nthese things are, too, when that pair is present.\nOne who is indecisive should train in the path of knowledge;\nit is from knowledge that the Ascetic speaks of these things.”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:8","sourceIds":["snp4.11:8.1","snp4.11:8.2","snp4.11:8.3","snp4.11:8.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Sātaṁ asātañca kutonidānā,\nKismiṁ asante na bhavanti hete;\nVibhavaṁ bhavañcāpi yametamatthaṁ,\nEtaṁ me pabrūhi yatonidānaṁ”.","en":"“Where do pleasure and pain spring from?\nWhen what is absent do these things not occur?\nAnd also, on the topic of manifesting and vanishing—\ntell me where they spring from.”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:9","sourceIds":["snp4.11:9.1","snp4.11:9.2","snp4.11:9.3","snp4.11:9.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Phassanidānaṁ sātaṁ asātaṁ,\nPhasse asante na bhavanti hete;\nVibhavaṁ bhavañcāpi yametamatthaṁ,\nEtaṁ te pabrūmi itonidānaṁ”.","en":"“Pleasure and pain spring from contact;\nwhen contact is absent they do not occur.\nAnd on the topic of manifesting and vanishing—\nI tell you they spring from there.”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:10","sourceIds":["snp4.11:10.1","snp4.11:10.2","snp4.11:10.3","snp4.11:10.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Phasso nu lokasmi kutonidāno,\nPariggahā cāpi kutopahūtā;\nKismiṁ asante na mamattamatthi,\nKismiṁ vibhūte na phusanti phassā”.","en":"“So where does contact in the world spring from?\nAnd possessions, too, where do they come from?\nWhen what is absent is there no possessiveness?\nWhen what vanishes do contacts not strike?”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:11","sourceIds":["snp4.11:11.1","snp4.11:11.2","snp4.11:11.3","snp4.11:11.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Nāmañca rūpañca paṭicca phasso,\nIcchānidānāni pariggahāni;\nIcchāyasantyā na mamattamatthi,\nRūpe vibhūte na phusanti phassā”.","en":"“Name and form cause contact;\npossessions spring from wishing;\nwhen wishing is absent there is no possessiveness;\nwhen form vanishes, contacts don’t strike.”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:12","sourceIds":["snp4.11:12.1","snp4.11:12.2","snp4.11:12.3","snp4.11:12.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Kathaṁ sametassa vibhoti rūpaṁ,\nSukhaṁ dukhañcāpi kathaṁ vibhoti;\nEtaṁ me pabrūhi yathā vibhoti,\nTaṁ jāniyāmāti me mano ahu”.","en":"“Form vanishes for one proceeding how?\nAnd how do happiness and suffering vanish?\nTell me how they vanish;\nI think we ought to know these things.”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:13","sourceIds":["snp4.11:13.1","snp4.11:13.2","snp4.11:13.3","snp4.11:13.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Na saññasaññī na visaññasaññī,\nNopi asaññī na vibhūtasaññī;\nEvaṁ sametassa vibhoti rūpaṁ,\nSaññānidānā hi papañcasaṅkhā”.","en":"“Without normal perception or distorted perception;\nnot lacking perception, nor perceiving what has vanished.\nForm vanishes for one proceeding thus;\nfor judgments due to proliferation spring from perception.”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:14","sourceIds":["snp4.11:14.1","snp4.11:14.2","snp4.11:14.3","snp4.11:14.4","snp4.11:14.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Yaṁ taṁ apucchimha akittayī no,\nAññaṁ taṁ pucchāma tadiṅgha brūhi;\nEttāvataggaṁ nu vadanti heke,\nYakkhassa suddhiṁ idha paṇḍitāse;\nUdāhu aññampi vadanti etto”.","en":"“Whatever I asked you have explained to me.\nI ask you once more, please tell me this:\nDo some astute folk here say that this is the highest extent\nof purity of the spirit?\nOr do they say it is something else?”"}},{"id":"snp4.11:15","sourceIds":["snp4.11:15.1","snp4.11:15.2","snp4.11:15.3","snp4.11:15.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ettāvataggampi vadanti heke,\nYakkhassa suddhiṁ idha paṇḍitāse;\nTesaṁ paneke samayaṁ vadanti,\nAnupādisese kusalā vadānā.","en":"“Some astute folk do say that this is the highest extent\nof purity of the spirit.\nBut some of them, claiming to be experts,\nspeak of an occasion when there is no residue."}},{"id":"snp4.11:16","sourceIds":["snp4.11:16.1","snp4.11:16.2","snp4.11:16.3","snp4.11:16.4","snp4.11:16.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Ete ca ñatvā upanissitāti,\nÑatvā munī nissaye so vimaṁsī;\nÑatvā vimutto na vivādameti,\nBhavābhavāya na sameti dhīro”ti.\nKalahavivādasuttaṁ ekādasamaṁ.","en":"Knowing that these states are dependent,\nand knowing what they depend on, the inquiring sage,\nhaving understood, is freed, and enters no dispute.\nThe attentive do not proceed to life after life.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/snp4.11/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}