{"id":"snp5.8","title":"The Questions of Nanda","languageCodes":["en","pi"],"languageNotes":{"en":"Bhikkhu Sujato · CC0","pi":"Mahāsaṅgīti edition · SuttaCentral"},"chapters":[{"id":"snp5.8","title":"The Questions of Nanda","units":[{"id":"snp5.8:0","sourceIds":["snp5.8:0.1","snp5.8:0.2"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"Sutta Nipāta 5.8\nNandamāṇavapucchā","en":"Anthology of Discourses 5.8\nThe Questions of Nanda"}},{"id":"snp5.8:1","sourceIds":["snp5.8:1.1","snp5.8:1.2","snp5.8:1.3","snp5.8:1.4","snp5.8:1.5"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Santi loke munayo,\n(iccāyasmā nando)\nJanā vadanti tayidaṁ kathaṁsu;\nÑāṇūpapannaṁ no muniṁ vadanti,\nUdāhu ve jīvitenūpapannaṁ”.","en":"“People say there are sages in the world,”\nsaid Venerable Nanda,\n“but how is this the case?\nIs someone called a sage because of their knowledge,\nor because of their way of life?”"}},{"id":"snp5.8:2","sourceIds":["snp5.8:2.1","snp5.8:2.2","snp5.8:2.3","snp5.8:2.4"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Na diṭṭhiyā na sutiyā na ñāṇena, (…)\nMunīdha nanda kusalā vadanti;\nVisenikatvā anīghā nirāsā,\nCaranti ye te munayoti brūmi”.","en":"“Experts do not speak of a sage in terms of\nview, learning, or knowledge.\nThose who are sages live far from the crowd, I say,\nuntroubled, with no need for hope.”"}},{"id":"snp5.8:3","sourceIds":["snp5.8:3.1","snp5.8:3.2","snp5.8:3.3","snp5.8:3.4","snp5.8:3.5","snp5.8:3.6","snp5.8:3.7","snp5.8:3.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ye kecime samaṇabrāhmaṇāse,\n(iccāyasmā nando)\nDiṭṭhassutenāpi vadanti suddhiṁ;\nSīlabbatenāpi vadanti suddhiṁ,\nAnekarūpena vadanti suddhiṁ.\nKaccissu te bhagavā tattha yatā carantā,\nAtāru jātiñca jarañca mārisa;\nPucchāmi taṁ bhagavā brūhi me taṁ”.","en":"“As to those ascetics and brahmins,”\nsaid Venerable Nanda,\n“who speak of purity in terms of what is seen or heard,\nor in terms of precepts and vows,\nor in terms of countless different things.\nLiving self-controlled in that matter,\nhave they crossed over rebirth and old age, good fellow?\nI ask you, Blessed One; please tell me this.”"}},{"id":"snp5.8:4","sourceIds":["snp5.8:4.1","snp5.8:4.2","snp5.8:4.3","snp5.8:4.4","snp5.8:4.5","snp5.8:4.6","snp5.8:4.7"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ye kecime samaṇabrāhmaṇāse,\n(nandāti bhagavā)\nDiṭṭhassutenāpi vadanti suddhiṁ;\nSīlabbatenāpi vadanti suddhiṁ,\nAnekarūpena vadanti suddhiṁ;\nKiñcāpi te tattha yatā caranti,\nNātariṁsu jātijaranti brūmi”.","en":"“As to those ascetics and brahmins,”\nreplied the Buddha,\n“who speak of purity in terms of what is seen or heard,\nor in terms of precepts and vows,\nor in terms of countless different things.\nEven though they live self-controlled in that matter,\nthey’ve not crossed over rebirth and old age, I declare.”"}},{"id":"snp5.8:5","sourceIds":["snp5.8:5.1","snp5.8:5.2","snp5.8:5.3","snp5.8:5.4","snp5.8:5.5","snp5.8:5.6","snp5.8:5.7","snp5.8:5.8","snp5.8:5.9"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Ye kecime samaṇabrāhmaṇāse,\n(iccāyasmā nando)\nDiṭṭhassutenāpi vadanti suddhiṁ;\nSīlabbatenāpi vadanti suddhiṁ,\nAnekarūpena vadanti suddhiṁ.\nTe ce muni brūsi anoghatiṇṇe,\nAtha ko carahi devamanussaloke;\nAtāri jātiñca jarañca mārisa,\nPucchāmi taṁ bhagavā brūhi me taṁ”.","en":"“As to those ascetics and brahmins,”\nsaid Venerable Nanda,\n“who speak of purity in terms of what is seen or heard,\nor in terms of precepts and vows,\nor in terms of countless different things.\nYou say they have not crossed the flood, sage.\nSo who then in the world of gods and humans\nhas crossed over rebirth and old age, good fellow?\nI ask you, Blessed One; please tell me this.”"}},{"id":"snp5.8:6","sourceIds":["snp5.8:6.1","snp5.8:6.2","snp5.8:6.3","snp5.8:6.4","snp5.8:6.5","snp5.8:6.6","snp5.8:6.7","snp5.8:6.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Nāhaṁ sabbe samaṇabrāhmaṇāse,\n(nandāti bhagavā)\nJātijarāya nivutāti brūmi;\nYe sīdha diṭṭhaṁ va sutaṁ mutaṁ vā,\nSīlabbataṁ vāpi pahāya sabbaṁ.\nAnekarūpampi pahāya sabbaṁ,\nTaṇhaṁ pariññāya anāsavāse;\nTe ve narā oghatiṇṇāti brūmi”.","en":"“I don’t say that all ascetics and brahmins,”\nreplied the Buddha,\n“are shrouded by rebirth and old age.\nThere are those here who have given up all\nthat is seen, heard, and thought, and precepts and vows,\nwho have given up all the countless different things.\nFully understanding craving, they are free of defilements,\nthose people, I say, have crossed the flood.”"}},{"id":"snp5.8:7","sourceIds":["snp5.8:7.1","snp5.8:7.2","snp5.8:7.3","snp5.8:7.4","snp5.8:7.5","snp5.8:7.6","snp5.8:7.7","snp5.8:7.8"],"kind":"text","text":{"pi":"“Etābhinandāmi vaco mahesino,\nSukittitaṁ gotamanūpadhīkaṁ;\nYe sīdha diṭṭhaṁ va sutaṁ mutaṁ vā,\nSīlabbataṁ vāpi pahāya sabbaṁ.\nAnekarūpampi pahāya sabbaṁ,\nTaṇhaṁ pariññāya anāsavāse;\nAhampi te oghatiṇṇāti brūmī”ti.\nNandamāṇavapucchā sattamā.","en":"“I rejoice in the words of the great seer!\nYou have expounded non-attachment well, Gotama.\nThere are those here who have given up all\nthat is seen, heard, and thought, and precepts and vows,\nwho have given up all the countless different things.\nFully understanding craving, they are free of defilements,\nthose people, I agree, have crossed the flood.”"}}]}],"sourceRevision":"afdafa92450cfe7573b280da50382888323666d2","sourceUrl":"https://suttacentral.net/snp5.8/en/sujato","licence":"CC0 1.0","licenceUrl":"https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/","editionNote":"Full supplied source file; inherited abbreviations are preserved. Not a reconstructed expansion of every repetition. No Malay or Mandarin translation is implied."}